[C320-list] new boat terrors

[Robert Seastream]

I'm a new owner of a 2002 320, hull 906, out of Portsmouth, NH.  I 
upgraded from a 1983 C25.  Catalina is a good company producing a great 
boat; their history speaks for itself.  Sounds like your only problem 
is a lazy dealer.  The following is my two cents, not gospel.

Given the money you have invested in this boat, I think you should 
simply refuse to take ownership of the boat until ALL of your concerns, 
no matter how small, are resolved to your satisfaction!  Make this 
firmly clear to your dealer, face to face.  You may have closed on the 
loan, but have you given the dealer his bank check yet?  If not, that's 
huge leverage; if so, your only path to resolution may be through 
Frank.  Tell the dealer you've phoned Frank Butler (you have, right?) 
to keep him in the loop on this.  Phone Frank, don't email him.  He's 
old school;  I've heard he prefers the phone.

The documentation fee you mentioned does indeed sound a bit high.  
Please see the following link:  http://www.uscg.mil/hq/gm/vdoc/nvdc.htm

Again, these are great boats, possibly one of the best values per 
dollar spent.  I've been in/on a few other makes, so it's not just 
owners pride.

Yes, you are supposed to get a 'shakedown' cruise where Q&A about 
'what's this and how's it work' happens.

Best of luck,

Bob




On Apr 13, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Adam Weiner wrote:

> There is no such thing as new boat terrors--just terrified owners.
>
> Why don't you ask someone on this list to post all of the great things,
> and quit worrying about the negative ones.
>
> Remember, in the words of Liza Minnelli (sp?) in Cabaret;  Life is a
> banquet and most people don't sail enough.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Scott Thompson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] new boat terrors
>
>
> You seem to be suggesting that you will be moving the boat far from the
> dealer early on (i.e. "from the Delaware to the Bay.")  I'd have a 
> frank
>
> discussion with your dealer about all of these questions before taking
> possession.  It might be worth your while to hire a surveyor to do a 
> new
>
> boat check out and then insist that the dealer fix all identified
> problems before you finalize the deal.
>
> The $550 fee for USCG documentation seems awfully high to me.  The
> actual fees to the USCG are less than 1/2 that I think.
>
> On the other hand, you'd better get used to having things cost a bit
> more than on the Capri!  You are buying a lot more boat.
>
> moondancer5 at comcast.net wrote:
>> I've been reading the list for a month or so while waiting for
>> delivery of hull #1089 here in NJ. What I've been reading is scaring
>> the hell out of me! It seems there are a number of problems with the
>> new 320s. (I realize that some are due to special needs for charter
>> boats) My last one was a Capri 22 and I have not owned a cruiser
>> before, so please take pity on this newbie:
>>
>> What do I need to do when the boat hits the dealer? Do I/they go
>> through testing all the systems before or after I sign the boat loan
> papers? (The last boat wasn't financed, so I'm clueless.) Is there a
> test sail before the sale is final, or is everything just considered
> warranty problems to be addressed? I'm going to give the freezer a good
> look after reading of mismatched doors here. Are cosmetic defects
> addressed by the dealer if there are any? Do I let the boat leave the
> dealer at all before everything is 100%? I was already surprised that
> the bank wants the boat USCG certified (for $550!) as I already have to
> have the state registration done.
>>
>> I'd like to put together a checklist of what I should be doing when it
>
>> arrives, any help here would be greatly appreciated. Silly me, I
>> thought they'd just rig it, give us the orientation, and send us off
>> (with a skipper) to bring it around from the Delaware to the Bay. Now
>> I'm freaked...
>>
>> Susan
>>
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