[C320-list] New Head Sail
Ralph Winkler
capt-wink at aepro.com
Mon Aug 28 09:10:18 PDT 2006
Last year I contacted the Quantum loft here in Milwaukee and asked them to
contact their office in Houston as one of their guys in previous threads
here on the list offered some good recommendations. With the input from the
Houston loft we "Lake Michiganized" the specs to meet our needs and
conditions. The 155% sail has worked great for us and I'd recommend Quantum
again. Also, we made a deal for their best winter discount price if I order
the sail in November and they delivered it in March.
Ralph Winkler
Wind Dancer #394
Milwaukee
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> 1. Re: 135 Jib (CMKIT1 at cs.com)
> 2. Re: 135 Jib (Adam Weiner)
> 3. Re: 135 Jib (Joe Balla)
> 4. Re: 135 Jib (bruceheyman at cox.net)
> 5. Re: 135 Jib (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
> 6. Re: Forums vs. email-list (was thongs.. :) (Ben Waltuck)
> 7. Re: 135 Jib (Dennyats at aol.com)
> 8. Re: My fuel tank leaks! (jonvez at comcast.net)
> 9. Regatta 2006 (Richard A. Walker)
> 10. Re: Forums vs. email-list (was thongs.. :) (Allan Field)
> 11. Re: My fuel tank leaks! (Ray Durand)
> 12. Re: My fuel tank leaks! (R Airis)
> 13. Re: My fuel tank leaks! (jonvez at comcast.net)
> 14. Re: Boom Vang (T. Scott Thompson)
> 15. Re: Regatta 2006 (Adam Weiner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:20:30 EDT
> From: CMKIT1 at cs.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 135 Jib
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Message-ID: <c2f.11b80cb.3223204e at cs.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Denny
> I had a tornado do my jib in . I bought a new one from UK in Chicago. I
> very
> happy with the sail and service. It cost around 2000.00 ( it depends on
> options)
> Kit Carson
> #223
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:48:43 -0700
> From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 135 Jib
> To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <000401c6ca01$0dfb7840$6401a8c0 at LAdamWeiner>
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> North Sails Cruising Direct division has some great deals but I really
> recommend you find a sail maker and have a custom sail made for your
> sailing in your area.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Dennyats at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:49 AM
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] 135 Jib
>
>
> I had a beautiful sail yesterday in San Diego Bay. Temp about 75
> degrees
> with 20 knot winds. unfortunately my "Mature" 1993 jib was not up to
> the task.
> Some damage occurred and I'm afraid it may not be repairable. So, I
> may
> need to replace. I haven't had to buy sails yet so I could use some
> good
> advice. I would appreciate any help available.
> Denny Eichberg
> #19 "I B HAPY" San Diego
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:46:17 -0700
> From: "Joe Balla" <jballa at rpgcommercial.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 135 Jib
> To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <000701c6ca09$151b87c0$230110ac at home>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> Denny...
> Hey how are you? I was out yesterday off Pt. Loma myself near the Mission
> Bay area...What an afternoon of sailing.
> Let me tell you about two sources in Shelter Island you might check with.
> First, Tom over at Ullman Sails often times will have slightly used sails
> in
> his loft and you might check with him...also he is a repair wizard and
> might
> be able to take care of you in that respect. Another great source is
> almost
> right across the street at Odyssey Sails. Their loft is terrific too and
> they have helped me with some minor repairs to my jib recently that got
> damaged when my roller furling foil tore.
> Best,
> Joe Balla
>
> 1994 C320 'El Encanto'
>
> "If you aren't going all the way, why go at all?"
> ... Joe Namath
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Dennyats at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:49 AM
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] 135 Jib
>
> I had a beautiful sail yesterday in San Diego Bay. Temp about 75 degrees
> with 20 knot winds. unfortunately my "Mature" 1993 jib was not up to the
> task.
> Some damage occurred and I'm afraid it may not be repairable. So, I may
> need to replace. I haven't had to buy sails yet so I could use some good
> advice. I would appreciate any help available.
> Denny Eichberg
> #19 "I B HAPY" San Diego
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:01:08 +0000
> From: bruceheyman at cox.net
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 135 Jib
> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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>
> Denny,
> If you can find a sail maker that will go out with you on your boat. We
> had Rick McCready from UK, loft is in Newport, go out with us on our last
> boat. Not only did we pick up a wealth of information but our sails were
> not as bad as we thought and for a couple hundred (well maybe a few
> hundred) we got them back in service. If you have to buy a new sail youi
> are getting closae to the best time for discounts. Things slow up in the
> winter and the best discounts start with the shows.
> Bruce
> Somerset 671 So Cal
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennyats at aol.com
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:49:28
> To:c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] 135 Jib
>
> I had a beautiful sail yesterday in San Diego Bay. Temp about 75 degrees
> with 20 knot winds. unfortunately my "Mature" 1993 jib was not up to the
> task.
> Some damage occurred and I'm afraid it may not be repairable. So, I may
> need to replace. I haven't had to buy sails yet so I could use some good
> advice. I would appreciate any help available.
> Denny Eichberg
> #19 "I B HAPY" San Diego
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:17:14 -0700
> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 135 Jib
> To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID:
> <OF28133348.1A2375B7-ON882571D7.0069F2F3 at averydennison.com>
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>
> Ullman in SD is a great place for advice, sails and super service...
> ------Original Message------
> From: Joe Balla
> To: Catalina 320 List
> ReplyTo: Catalina 320 List
> Sent: Aug 27, 2006 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 135 Jib
>
> [Sent by: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com ]
> Denny...
> Hey how are you? I was out yesterday off Pt. Loma myself near the Mission
> Bay area...What an afternoon of sailing.
> Let me tell you about two sources in Shelter Island you might check with.
> First, Tom over at Ullman Sails often times will have slightly used sails
> in
> his loft and you might check with him...also he is a repair wizard and
> might
> be able to take care of you in that respect. Another great source is
> almost
> right across the street at Odyssey Sails. Their loft is terrific too and
> they have helped me with some minor repairs to my jib recently that got
> damaged when my roller furling foil tore.
> Best,
> Joe Balla
>
> 1994 C320 'El Encanto'
>
> "If you aren't going all the way, why go at all?"
> ... Joe Namath
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Dennyats at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:49 AM
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] 135 Jib
>
> I had a beautiful sail yesterday in San Diego Bay. Temp about 75 degrees
> with 20 knot winds. unfortunately my "Mature" 1993 jib was not up to the
> task.
> Some damage occurred and I'm afraid it may not be repairable. So, I may
> need to replace. I haven't had to buy sails yet so I could use some good
> advice. I would appreciate any help available.
> Denny Eichberg
> #19 "I B HAPY" San Diego
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:23:58 -0400
> From: Ben Waltuck <benw at sun.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forums vs. email-list (was thongs.. :)
> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <44F1F14E.3000608 at sun.com>
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>
> To the folks that are requesting a forum only, are you aware of the web
> interface to the current email list?
> http://www.catalina320.com/list/archives
> it even has subjects broken out per month or year:
> http://mail.catalina320.com/pipermail/c320-list_catalina320.com/2006-August/subject.html
> perhaps the only thing missing is a search engine, but that's not an
> easy thing to implement...
>
> If you don't like the volume of the emails, then I'd suggest that you
> either set up a filter or just use the web interface.
> You could unsubscribe from the list but still be able to mail in
> questions and check the website for answers.
>
> BUT...if everyone just used the forums or web interface, it'd take much
> longer for answers, we'd lose quick access to many knowledgeable
> sailors, and eventually there would be nobody listening to answer your
> questions!
>
> Just my $.02
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:54:59 EDT
> From: Dennyats at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 135 Jib
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Message-ID: <c02.25466cc.32235293 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> That's two recommendations for Ullman......I'll try them next week.
> Thanks
> for the help.
> Denny
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:39:12 +0000
> From: jonvez at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] My fuel tank leaks!
> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID:
> <082720062139.21919.44F21100000635970000559F2207020953960A90020106 at comcast.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Ray,
> First of all, thanks for the advice on removing the tank from the aft
> cabin access--saved me a lot of time!
>
> For those of you who may have to go through this, this is how I
> successfully removed and installed a new tank yesterday--
>
> I found that I too had a pinhole leak in a weld--looks like the tank had
> enough room to move around a bit and I'm sure this didn't help. The newer
> tanks are thicker (my original was .90mm and the 'new' one .125mm). I got
> the tank from Catalina in two days, but it was manufactured in July of 04.
> Didn't come in a box, so it was pretty scratched up when I got it, so I
> hope it holds!
>
> To remove the fuel: I ended up using a Siphon Mate, which is a simple pump
> that costs $27.99 at Defender. I also bought a pump that fits on a drill
> and is a simple impeller for 15 bucks at a hardware store, but my drill
> wasn't powerful enough, so I went with the hand pump.
>
> To remove the old tank: The was much easier than I anticipated. Once empty
> it came right out using the aft cabin access panel (the lazarette is about
> a 1/2" to small (thanks again Ray!). You need to unscrew all of the
> connections holding the hoses in place and remove the boards over the
> tank. The board to port was a pain to remove and if I ever have to do this
> again, I will trim it to get it in and out more easily.
>
> The new tank: Catalina sent me the tank with the fuel inlet and return
> connections both pointed in the wrong direction and the barbs too small
> for the hoses! Changing out the hoses wasn't an option because all of the
> connections on the engine side call for the hose size already in the boat.
> To solve this problem, I took the connections from the old tank and refit
> them onto the new tank. The problem is that the old hose barbs are made of
> bronze and I had no way of isolating these from the aluminum tank other
> than teflon tape. So I will be calling the tank manufacturer tomorrow to
> see if I can get the right size barbs in aluminum (West and others don't
> seem to carry and I can't find a stainless insert to separate the two
> metals.
>
> Overall, it was an all day job and not one I want to do again, but it
> wasn't an impossible task. I am very frustrated that the old tank 1)
> failed so soon, and 2) Catalina didn't provide me with a drop in
> replacement ($377 plus shipping by the way).
>
> Finally, I did get a chance to check the condition of the fuel and tank as
> far as sludge and I'm very pleased to find that I had no sludge and the
> fuel was extremely clean! So I will continue with my regimen of keeping
> the tank topped up and using Biobor as a anti-microbial....If anyone is
> interested in more detail, let me know...Thanks to everyone who provided
> advice!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Vez
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Ray Durand" <durand.mail at verizon.net>
>
>> Jon,
>>
>> Mine failed after two years!
>>
>> In my case, one of the welded seams had a tiny pin hole in it. It took me
>> weeks to find it. I share your pain.
>>
>> Looks like you already have some advice on getting the fuel out. This is
>> very important, since you need to get it all out in order to be able to
>> move
>> the tank around to get it out. I discovered that the only way to get the
>> tank out is through the aft cabin access opening. You have to remove the
>> wooden frame around the opening and the tank will just fit through it.
>> Mine
>> had a metal strap that secured the tank to the hull. It was not reusable,
>> so I cut it with a pair of metal cutters - not too hard as I remember.
>>
>> After disconnecting the hoses and the wiring to the sensor, you have to
>> get
>> the tank over to the port side so you can fit it through the aft cabin
>> opening. I got a new tank from Catalina (Frank later reimbursed me, even
>> though my boat was out of warranty). Installing the new tank was just a
>> reverse of the removal process. I bought a tank hold down strap from my
>> local boating store and resecured the tank. Keep the old sensor. I didn't
>> and my new sensor isn't nearly as accurate as the old one. The sensor is
>> easily replaced.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Ray Durand, #822
>> Marina del Rey
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> To: "320 List"
>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 5:32 AM
>> Subject: [C320-list] My fuel tank leaks!
>>
>>
>> > Well I confirmed the worst case scenario this weekend. My fuel tank is
>> > indeed leaking somewhere on the bottom. I will be calling Catalina this
>> > morning to get a new tank, so any advice on removing the tank and
>> > removing
>> > the fuel in the tank would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I can get
>> > one
>> > quickly enough to not end the rest of my season :(
>> > I took a look at what Nigel Calder had to say about fuel tanks and was
>> > quite surprised to read that a study conducted by the ABYC revealed a
>> > tank
>> > life for aluminum to be between 7.6 years and 17 years! Production and
>> > quality control seem to make the difference in the life of the tanks.
>> > My
>> > boat is a '99, so this seems really premature.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have a suggestion on the type of transfer pump I can use
>> > (siphoning is not an option).? Someone at the marina mentioned that
>> > there
>> > is pump that can be attached to a drill and is okay to use with diesel,
>> > but haven't been able to find one...Thanks in advance for any advice!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Jon Vez
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:32:28 -0700
> From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
> Subject: [C320-list] Regatta 2006
> To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <003401c6ca28$ae923d80$5eb3fea9 at D53ZJN31>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> We now have 81 coming to dinner on Saturday and 15 Boats at Coronado.
>
> Should be a great event. Please do not hesitate to call me if you have
> any
> questions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dick Walker
> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> 619.435.8986
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:41:41 -0400
> From: "Allan Field" <Allan.Field at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forums vs. email-list (was thongs.. :)
> To: <catalina at thehares.com>, "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <000401c6ca29$faddfd40$6301a8c0 at Office>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Jeff - My vote is that what you have set up is perfect. Regarding the
> thong
> thing, I was there when it happened and enjoy the back-and-forth that
> seems
> to revive itself every 6 months or so. However, the thread on the boson's
> chair did not really mean much to me as I have my own way thank you very
> much and I didn't see much on the e-mails that was going to change my
> mind.
> So I just started deleting. Never underestimate the power of the delete
> button! And Jeff, thanks again for all you do for us. - Allan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:44 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: [C320-list] Forums vs. email-list (was thongs.. :)
>
> Hi Bert,
>
> The c320-list email subject line is formatted to make it easy for your
> email client to automatically filter all messages from this list out into
> a
> separate C320-LIST inbox and away from all your regular email.
>
> This way, your main inbox is never clogged with traffic from this list.
> You can simply browse the unread discussions in your Catalina 320 email
> folder using all the power of your email client at your leasure, on or
> offline, or just delete them all quite easily.
>
> I realize many people don't know how to enable this automatic filtering
> on their email client, but I assure you it takes only seconds, *one time*
> to
> set up.
>
> As for moving to web-based forum approach, we could certainly do that
> and
> have discussed it in the past. However, since you're not averse to
> logging
> in, then you can (with one checkbox click and a submit button click)
> suspend
> your C320 email distributions while you're away on the boat. And then
> resume it the same way when you're back. Hence ...zero unwanted email
> from
> us... when you return.. :) Then go browse the web-based archives to see
> the
> threaded traffic from the days you were gone if you're curious.
>
> As for web-forums, our website already has a fast, web based, fully
> searchable category-based discussion FAQ/forum system in place and
> functional today. We could simply do away with this email-list and let
> people do what you suggest. It was set up as an experiment/test to see
> whether the discussions would migrate to threaded web based forums if the
> option was available. But almost nobody has chosen to use it over the
> email
> list, even though you can follow a thread in these forums via email if you
> want. It's way more work than just browsing your Catalina 320 email
> folder.
>
> Personally, I wouldn't participate much if the only forum was web based,
> simply because I don't care to go browsing through multiple forums each
> day
> trying to page through things I've not read. But if that's the will of
> the
> group, that's fine with me.
>
> :)
> Maybe that's a plus seeing as I also chimed in on the thong thing! :)
> :)
>
> -Jeff Hare
>
>
> PS: All email sent from this list comes with the text: "[C320-list]" in
> the
> subject line. Enabling a simple email filter to move any email message
> containing that text into a new folder named something like "Catalina
> 320",
> will keep all C320 list traffic grouped in a separate mail folder.
>
> If I can help you enable your client email filter to automatically
> organize
> C320-list email upon arrival, I'm sure you'll see how quickly the whole
> thing becomes a non-issue.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BAdams3491 at aol.com [mailto:BAdams3491 at aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:46 PM
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Tired of Thongs
>
>
> In addition to the C320 forum, I'm on a number of other boat, sailboat
> and
> diesel forums. We own a diesel pickup and a 38' 5th wheel trailer...so
> I'm
> on
> several RV forums and a diesel truck forum. ALL of these forums, except
> ours, make it very easy to navigate through, and pick and choose the
> topics
> you
> wish to read and/or make comment. Rather than receiving emails, the
> other
> forums are used by signing on, then navigating through the various topics
> and
> threads...they send and I receive no email. With our forum, we get lots
> of
>
> emails and have no choice as to which topics we can read/comment. We
> have
> to
> go through all of them just to get rid of them (or delete them which I do
> not
> do). Is there a way we could make our forum like the others? Have major
> topics (like Hull, Engine, Electrical, Water, Rigging, Auto Pilot, Radar,
> Anchoring, 12 Volt Power, AC Power, etc), and let the reader log on and
> surf the
> areas in which he/she is interested? If I have been gone for a few days
> (on
> the boat!), I come home, get on line, and have 100 emails awaiting me,
> 75%
> of
> which are from the C320 forum, and half of those I do not care about.
>
> I'd offer a suggestion or idea, but am not computer literate enough to do
> that. Maybe one of you smart computer guys out there can help.
>
> Bert
> At Ease
> #442
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:11:35 -0700
> From: "Ray Durand" <durand.mail at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] My fuel tank leaks!
> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <001f01c6ca2e$2a128140$6401a8c0 at DURANDPCVRX860>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=original
>
> Jon,
>
> I guess I was a little more fortunate in that the new tank that I got from
> Catalina was an exact replacement. Of course, this was about three years
> ago and Frank may have changed vendors since then. Taking a whole day to
> do
> it sounds about right. Let's hope that not too many others have to
> experience this pleasure!
>
> Ray
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 2:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] My fuel tank leaks!
>
>
>> Ray,
>> First of all, thanks for the advice on removing the tank from the aft
>> cabin access--saved me a lot of time!
>>
>> For those of you who may have to go through this, this is how I
>> successfully removed and installed a new tank yesterday--
>>
>> I found that I too had a pinhole leak in a weld--looks like the tank had
>> enough room to move around a bit and I'm sure this didn't help. The newer
>> tanks are thicker (my original was .90mm and the 'new' one .125mm). I got
>> the tank from Catalina in two days, but it was manufactured in July of
>> 04.
>> Didn't come in a box, so it was pretty scratched up when I got it, so I
>> hope it holds!
>>
>> To remove the fuel: I ended up using a Siphon Mate, which is a simple
>> pump
>> that costs $27.99 at Defender. I also bought a pump that fits on a drill
>> and is a simple impeller for 15 bucks at a hardware store, but my drill
>> wasn't powerful enough, so I went with the hand pump.
>>
>> To remove the old tank: The was much easier than I anticipated. Once
>> empty
>> it came right out using the aft cabin access panel (the lazarette is
>> about
>> a 1/2" to small (thanks again Ray!). You need to unscrew all of the
>> connections holding the hoses in place and remove the boards over the
>> tank. The board to port was a pain to remove and if I ever have to do
>> this
>> again, I will trim it to get it in and out more easily.
>>
>> The new tank: Catalina sent me the tank with the fuel inlet and return
>> connections both pointed in the wrong direction and the barbs too small
>> for the hoses! Changing out the hoses wasn't an option because all of the
>> connections on the engine side call for the hose size already in the
>> boat.
>> To solve this problem, I took the connections from the old tank and refit
>> them onto the new tank. The problem is that the old hose barbs are made
>> of
>> bronze and I had no way of isolating these from the aluminum tank other
>> than teflon tape. So I will be calling the tank manufacturer tomorrow to
>> see if I can get the right size barbs in aluminum (West and others don't
>> seem to carry and I can't find a stainless insert to separate the two
>> metals.
>>
>> Overall, it was an all day job and not one I want to do again, but it
>> wasn't an impossible task. I am very frustrated that the old tank 1)
>> failed so soon, and 2) Catalina didn't provide me with a drop in
>> replacement ($377 plus shipping by the way).
>>
>> Finally, I did get a chance to check the condition of the fuel and tank
>> as
>> far as sludge and I'm very pleased to find that I had no sludge and the
>> fuel was extremely clean! So I will continue with my regimen of keeping
>> the tank topped up and using Biobor as a anti-microbial....If anyone is
>> interested in more detail, let me know...Thanks to everyone who provided
>> advice!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Ray Durand" <durand.mail at verizon.net>
>>
>>> Jon,
>>>
>>> Mine failed after two years!
>>>
>>> In my case, one of the welded seams had a tiny pin hole in it. It took
>>> me
>>> weeks to find it. I share your pain.
>>>
>>> Looks like you already have some advice on getting the fuel out. This is
>>> very important, since you need to get it all out in order to be able to
>>> move
>>> the tank around to get it out. I discovered that the only way to get the
>>> tank out is through the aft cabin access opening. You have to remove the
>>> wooden frame around the opening and the tank will just fit through it.
>>> Mine
>>> had a metal strap that secured the tank to the hull. It was not
>>> reusable,
>>> so I cut it with a pair of metal cutters - not too hard as I remember.
>>>
>>> After disconnecting the hoses and the wiring to the sensor, you have to
>>> get
>>> the tank over to the port side so you can fit it through the aft cabin
>>> opening. I got a new tank from Catalina (Frank later reimbursed me, even
>>> though my boat was out of warranty). Installing the new tank was just a
>>> reverse of the removal process. I bought a tank hold down strap from my
>>> local boating store and resecured the tank. Keep the old sensor. I
>>> didn't
>>> and my new sensor isn't nearly as accurate as the old one. The sensor is
>>> easily replaced.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Ray Durand, #822
>>> Marina del Rey
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From:
>>> To: "320 List"
>>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 5:32 AM
>>> Subject: [C320-list] My fuel tank leaks!
>>>
>>>
>>> > Well I confirmed the worst case scenario this weekend. My fuel tank is
>>> > indeed leaking somewhere on the bottom. I will be calling Catalina
>>> > this
>>> > morning to get a new tank, so any advice on removing the tank and
>>> > removing
>>> > the fuel in the tank would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I can get
>>> > one
>>> > quickly enough to not end the rest of my season :(
>>> > I took a look at what Nigel Calder had to say about fuel tanks and was
>>> > quite surprised to read that a study conducted by the ABYC revealed a
>>> > tank
>>> > life for aluminum to be between 7.6 years and 17 years! Production and
>>> > quality control seem to make the difference in the life of the tanks.
>>> > My
>>> > boat is a '99, so this seems really premature.
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone have a suggestion on the type of transfer pump I can use
>>> > (siphoning is not an option).? Someone at the marina mentioned that
>>> > there
>>> > is pump that can be attached to a drill and is okay to use with
>>> > diesel,
>>> > but haven't been able to find one...Thanks in advance for any advice!
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Jon Vez
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:25:13 -0700
> From: "R Airis" <rairis at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] My fuel tank leaks!
> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <002001c6ca30$0ce2d0f0$c4d61318 at Airis>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> When did Catalina switch to alum. tanks?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:01:14 +0000
> From: jonvez at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] My fuel tank leaks!
> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID:
> <082820060001.20842.44F2324A0002DDAE0000516A2200751150960A90020106 at comcast.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> For fuel, I believe they have always been aluminum....
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "R Airis" <rairis at comcast.net>
>
>> When did Catalina switch to alum. tanks?
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:06:59 -0400
> From: "T. Scott Thompson" <sthompson at toad.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Boom Vang
> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <44F26BE3.5070307 at toad.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> You might want to explain more carefully what you mean by "fixed" and
> "adjustable." I've never seen a vang that was not adjustable, and can't
> imagine how you would get decent sail shape if you couldn't adjust it at
> all.
>
> Nigel Price wrote:
>> Is the adjustable boom vang with blocks and becket necessary on an
>> in-mast furling system?
>> Epiphany was supplied with a fixed vang, whereas another recent hull
>> number, also with in-mast furler,was delivered with an adjustable vang.
>> Any ideas?
>> Nigel
>> Epiphany #1061
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:23:02 -0700
> From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Regatta 2006
> To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <000201c6ca62$093e9560$6401a8c0 at LAdamWeiner>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Pardon my ignorance, but is it customary to bring pictures (a few, a
> lot, none) to regattas? What about log books for sharing experiences?
>
> By the way 20.8 miles today in 3 hrs, 39 minutes.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Richard A.
> Walker
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 3:32 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: [C320-list] Regatta 2006
>
>
> We now have 81 coming to dinner on Saturday and 15 Boats at Coronado.
>
> Should be a great event. Please do not hesitate to call me if you have
> any questions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dick Walker
> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> 619.435.8986
>
>
>
>
>
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