[C320-list] Re: C320-List Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4

Ralph Winkler capt-wink at aepro.com
Mon Jan 2 11:56:33 PST 2006


Mike
Three years ago I bought a 15" three blade Autostream stainless steel prop
from Martec who is the U. S. distributor.  I have been very pleased with its
performance.  On my previous boat I Maxprop and it was fine but I didn't
like taking it apart to change pitch.

Ralph Winkler
Wind Dancer 394
Milwaukee

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>    1. Re: Anchoring (Dave Sparks)
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>    3. Re: Fwd: [C320-list] Folding props
>       (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 19:34:32 -0600
> From: Dave Sparks <dlsparks at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Anchoring
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> Dave:
>    Under normal conditions, over the roller. But in strong winds and
> hurricanes, outside the pulpit to one of the bow cleats, with anti-chafing
> gear.
>     David Sparks
>
> On 12/31/05, Dave Anderer <danderer at udel.edu> wrote:
> >
> > How do folks anchor a 320?
> >
> > Ok, let me be a bit more precise - how do folks secure the anchor line
> > to the boat?  Over the roller and to the cleat in the anchor locker?  Or
> > lift it off the roller, and lead it outside the pulpit to one of the bow
> > cleats?
> >
> >
> > 3 months to launching.  So much to do, so little time.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:14:04 -0500
> From: "Peter Clancy" <sailorpete at msn.com>
> Subject: RE: Fwd: [C320-list] Folding props
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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>
> I have the Gori 2-blade folding prop size 15x10 RH which was recommended
for
> the Perkins M30 engine. Probably different spec for the Yanmar. I've seen
> other reviews/evaluations of the various folding/feathering props and the
> lowest drag factors were with 2-blade folders form Martec, Gori and
> Flex-O-Fold. The Gori is a "geared" folding prop which causes both blades
to
> open or close
> simultaneously. I installed it myself and it required no modifications to
> the existing shaft.
>
>
> Peter Clancy
> AROBAN  C320  #222
> Miami, FL
>
>
>
>
> >From: belairlk at aim.com
> >Reply-To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >Subject: Fwd: [C320-list] Folding props
> >Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:54:04 -0500
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: BEL AIR LK
> >To: rod.boer1 at verizon.net
> >Sent: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:50:08 -0500
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Folding props
> >
> >
> >Rod, thanks for very interesting articles---no mention of the Gori
2-blade
> >folding prop,  which I understand is also a good choice---they recommend
> >Gori 16-1/2" diam., 11 pitch  for 320 with Yanmar ($887. at PYacht.com).
> >
> >Anyone have experience or info re Gori prop?
> >
> >Len
> >
> >Aqua5, #1070
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rod Boer <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
> >To: belairlk at aim.com
> >Sent: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:59:38 -0500
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Folding props
> >
> >
> >Here it is.  I hope it helps.
> >
> >Rod
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: belairlk at aim.com
> >To: rod.boer1 at verizon.net ; C320-List at catalina320.com
> >Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:37 PM
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Folding props
> >
> >
> >Yes Rod, I would also like a copy of the comparison document.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Len  belairlk at aol.com
> >
> >Aqua5  #1070
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rod Boer <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
> >To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >Sent: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:25:33 -0500
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Folding props
> >
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >
> >I have a Word document comparing some of the prop manufacturers that you
> >mentioned. There are comparisons of Autoprop, MaxProp, and Martec by C320
> >owners. It used to be on the C320 web site. I can attach a copy of it to
an
> >email if you or anyone else is interested. One piece of information on
the
> >Autoprop seems to have changed and that is the original article indicated
a
> >16" diameter was appropriate whereas I just received a recommendation
that
> >15" diameter was recommended.
> >
> >Rod Boer
> >Odyssey, #688
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)"
> ><MLaChance at thehartford.com>
> >To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:13 PM
> >Subject: [C320-list] Folding props
> >
> >I've decided to replace my fixed 3 blade prop. Given the projected
> >expenditure some research is needed. I plan to review available
> >literature, talk to other sailors and list postings to make an informed
> >choice. The props I will examine include: Autoprop, MaxProp, Gori, and
> >Flex-o-fold.
> >
> >My question: are these four the major candidates or am I missing one?
> >
> >Also, I'm thinking about documenting my research for the website or an
> >article for Mainsheet. So if anyone has information they wish to share,
> >anecdotal or otherwise, and at the risk of starting a really long thread
> >(but hey it's snowing outside), please reply to this post.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Mike LaChance
> >Seychelle, #141
> >Noank, CT
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 18:27:42 -0800
> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [C320-list] Folding props
> To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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> I have the 2-bladed Martec, inexpensive, no shaft mods and works great...I
would never have a 3-bladed prop ever again..
>
> cuba libre 2
> --------------------------
> Regards,
> OD
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: C320-List-bounces
> Sent: 01/01/2006 06:14 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: RE: Fwd: [C320-list] Folding props
>
>
> I have the Gori 2-blade folding prop size 15x10 RH which was recommended
for
> the Perkins M30 engine. Probably different spec for the Yanmar. I've seen
> other reviews/evaluations of the various folding/feathering props and the
> lowest drag factors were with 2-blade folders form Martec, Gori and
> Flex-O-Fold. The Gori is a "geared" folding prop which causes both blades
to
> open or close
> simultaneously. I installed it myself and it required no modifications to
> the existing shaft.
>
>
> Peter Clancy
> AROBAN  C320  #222
> Miami, FL
>
>
>
>
> >From: belairlk at aim.com
> >Reply-To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >Subject: Fwd: [C320-list] Folding props
> >Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:54:04 -0500
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: BEL AIR LK
> >To: rod.boer1 at verizon.net
> >Sent: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:50:08 -0500
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Folding props
> >
> >
> >Rod, thanks for very interesting articles---no mention of the Gori
2-blade
> >folding prop,  which I understand is also a good choice---they recommend
> >Gori 16-1/2" diam., 11 pitch  for 320 with Yanmar ($887. at PYacht.com).
> >
> >Anyone have experience or info re Gori prop?
> >
> >Len
> >
> >Aqua5, #1070
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rod Boer <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
> >To: belairlk at aim.com
> >Sent: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:59:38 -0500
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Folding props
> >
> >
> >Here it is.  I hope it helps.
> >
> >Rod
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: belairlk at aim.com
> >To: rod.boer1 at verizon.net ; C320-List at catalina320.com
> >Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:37 PM
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Folding props
> >
> >
> >Yes Rod, I would also like a copy of the comparison document.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Len  belairlk at aol.com
> >
> >Aqua5  #1070
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rod Boer <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
> >To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >Sent: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:25:33 -0500
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Folding props
> >
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >
> >I have a Word document comparing some of the prop manufacturers that you
> >mentioned. There are comparisons of Autoprop, MaxProp, and Martec by C320
> >owners. It used to be on the C320 web site. I can attach a copy of it to
an
> >email if you or anyone else is interested. One piece of information on
the
> >Autoprop seems to have changed and that is the original article indicated
a
> >16" diameter was appropriate whereas I just received a recommendation
that
> >15" diameter was recommended.
> >
> >Rod Boer
> >Odyssey, #688
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)"
> ><MLaChance at thehartford.com>
> >To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:13 PM
> >Subject: [C320-list] Folding props
> >
> >I've decided to replace my fixed 3 blade prop. Given the projected
> >expenditure some research is needed. I plan to review available
> >literature, talk to other sailors and list postings to make an informed
> >choice. The props I will examine include: Autoprop, MaxProp, Gori, and
> >Flex-o-fold.
> >
> >My question: are these four the major candidates or am I missing one?
> >
> >Also, I'm thinking about documenting my research for the website or an
> >article for Mainsheet. So if anyone has information they wish to share,
> >anecdotal or otherwise, and at the risk of starting a really long thread
> >(but hey it's snowing outside), please reply to this post.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Mike LaChance
> >Seychelle, #141
> >Noank, CT
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 20:15:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: Timothy Grennan <timgrennan at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Solar panels
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>   Anyone install solar panels? If so any suggestions on mounts.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:57:21 -0800
> From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
> Subject: RE: [C320-list] Folding props
> To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Cc: CraigEneboe at aol.com, straum_rpi at yahoo.com
> Message-ID: <000901c60f69$cb566f60$6401a8c0 at LAdamWeiner>
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> I know.  My brand new custom main, and the used asymmetrical from Stan
> will be costing me less then what a folding prop cost and I can't help
> wonder if I will get more performance from my sails then from the prop.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Russell Monaco
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:11 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: RE: [C320-list] Folding props
>
>
> not sure any are available for a thousand, try 3...
>  russ
>
> Adam Weiner <esquirecatering at rcn.com> wrote: Too practical.  I want to
> spend thousand on a prop.  Well, my wife is back from the movies, and it
> just started to rain, so I am off to go sailing.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Allan Field
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 3:11 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: RE: [C320-list] Folding props
>
>
> Drogue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Adam Weiner
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:50 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Cc: CraigEneboe at aol.com; straum_rpi at yahoo.com
> Subject: RE: [C320-list] Folding props
>
> Well, I am heading out in a few minutes for the first sail of the year.
> NOAA weather prediction is Gale Warnings with gusts over 40k.
>
> I have the stock 11 year old 135 on the headstay and don't feel like
> changing to my custom 100% so it will be double reef and 1/2 of the 135
> (too big in the belly though.)  So here is my question:
>
> What type of propeller do I buy to slow me down?
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Russell Monaco
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:31 PM
> To: Rod Boer; C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Folding props
>
>
> rod-
>  I'd like to see that
>  russ monaco
>
> Rod Boer  wrote: Hi Mike,
>
> I have a Word document comparing some of the prop manufacturers that you
>
> mentioned. There are comparisons of Autoprop, MaxProp, and Martec by
> C320
> owners.  It used to be on the C320 web site.  I can attach a copy of it
> to
> an email if you or anyone else is interested.  One piece of information
> on
> the Autoprop seems to have changed and that is the original article
> indicated a 16" diameter was appropriate whereas I just received a
> recommendation that 15" diameter was recommended.
>
> Rod Boer
> Odyssey, #688
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)"
> To: "C320-List"
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:13 PM
> Subject: [C320-list] Folding props
>
>
> I've decided to replace my fixed 3 blade prop. Given the projected
> expenditure some research is needed. I plan to review available
> literature, talk to other sailors and list postings to make an informed
> choice. The props I will examine include: Autoprop, MaxProp, Gori, and
> Flex-o-fold.
>
> My question: are these four the major candidates or am I missing one?
>
> Also, I'm thinking about documenting my research for the website or an
> article for Mainsheet. So if anyone has information they wish to share,
> anecdotal or otherwise, and at the risk of starting a really long thread
> (but hey it's snowing outside), please reply to this post.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike LaChance
> Seychelle, #141
> Noank, CT
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 07:17:54 -0500
> From: Robert Seastream <seastream at adelphia.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Inflatable dinghy
> To: Allan.Field at comcast.net, C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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> I have a Bombard (Zodiac) Typhoon 250 with a Honda 2 hp 4 cycle engine.
> The engine weighs 27 pounds and has a one liter integral gas tank.
> The engine was $875 new from my marina.
> Centripetal clutch, so no gear shift.
>
> Robert Seastream
> Intuition, hull # 906
> Portsmouth, NH
>
> On Jan 1, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Allan Field wrote:
>
> > Kit - I have had both 2 and 4-cycle dingy motors.  At the end of the
> > day, my
> > vote would be for a 4-cycle.  On the downside, they are 2-3 times
> > heavier
> > than a 2-cycle and do not have a self-contained gas tank.  On the
> > upside,
> > they are much cleaner for the environment, you run the engine dry at
> > the end
> > of each run which keeps the gas from going bad in the carburetor, and
> > there
> > is no mixing of gas and oil.
> >
> > Allan S. Field
> > Sea Shadow - #808
> > Herrington Harbour South
> > Rosehaven, MD
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of CMKIT1 at cs.com
> > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:00 PM
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: [C320-list] Inflatable dinghy
> >
> > Like every other sailor I have time to spend money. This time I am
> > considering an Avon 310 RIB with a 2cycle 3.5 hp outboard. does anyone
> > have
> > thoughts on
> > a better plan?
> > Kit Carson
> > #223
> >
> > Note I am on a lake so speed is no issue
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