[C320-list] AFI cockpit table

[Stu Gitchell]

Chris,
I ran into the same problem right out of the box. I fiddled around a bit 
with measurments and sketches. Then re-engineered the whole damn thing. It 
was easier than it sounds. Here's what I did......a) threw away the 
directions, b)threw away the plastic mounts. c) took the table apart, d)cut 
3" off the back end of the table top, e)cut 11/2" off the back end of each 
drop leaf, f) cut 3" off the leg, and g) varnished it, put it back together, 
and mounted the whole shootin match 21/2" lower with 316L U-bolts. It works 
great. It looks great. The blasted little leg doesnt foul, and I have my 
drink holders. A more sophisticated solution may exist, but a VMI man goes 
straight for the skill saw. Victory!
Stu Gitchell
"Doxology" #1067
Yorktown Va
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>   1. Re: FW: Docking (Chris Burti)
>   2. Re: AFI cockpit table (Chris Burti)
>   3. Re: Music (Chris Burti)
>   4. Re: Galley sink (Chris Burti)
>   5. Polar Chart- C320 (Ed or Sue Edwards)
>   6. Re: temp gauge issue (Russell G. Monaco)
>   7. Re: temp gauge issue (Jeffrey Hare)
>   8. FW: Re: Are 6V Batteries Superior To 12V Batteries For
>      DeepCycle Applications? (Karl Mielenhausen  _/) )
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:06:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Docking
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> --- Adam Weiner wrote:
>
>> Yes, head in straight.  You normally put your car
>> into a space face front, why not put the pointing
>> end in first.
>
>
> I am saying all of this with an e-grin, but body
> language never shows through the text. This is
> intended to be a lesson for those less experienced
> sailors, so some of it is phrased emphatically for
> effect. It is a reflection of my experiences, I am
> still learning and so it should be taken with a grain
> of salt. Please, everyone, take this in the kindest
> sense.
>
> Yes we drive into a space...and then we back out...so
> what's the difference which order? If we have a load
> of heavy stuff in the trunk we probably will back in.
>
> I prefer to eliminate the need to climb over lifelines
> and carry loads of coolers, groceries, beer and sea
> bags from the bow to the stern negotiating a narrow
> path laden with traps for the incautious. My less
> experienced guests will fare better on boarding as
> well.
>
> First, it is best to practice on windless days and as
> often as possible. Second, only proceed as fast as you
> will be willing to hit a solid object.
>
> Our boats, being built with what is essentially a fin
> keel and a huge rudder, back as good as any single
> screw inboards that I have helmed in over forty years
> of messing around in boats...and better than
> most...once you learn how.
>
> I firmly believe that all this discussion about prop
> walk and inefficient props when talking about backing
> a C-320 is just so much hooey. Want to see what prop
> walk is all about?...Try backing an inboard ski boat
> with huge prop and tiny high speed rudder...or,
> backing a full keel sailboat with pintle hung rudder
> and with a prop aperture...now you're talking prop
> walk.
>
> I hate to be so blunt because text makes it sound so
> rude, but if you are having problems backing a C-320,
> it is likely to be the result of either a lack of
> experience, poor technique or a badly fouled prop
> (strong cross currents excepted, in which case
> everyone is likely to need a spring line to get where
> they want to go in reverse). I also confess that I
> haven't backed a C-320 with a two-bladed fixed prop,
> so I'm not qualified to comment there although it
> still shouldn't be a huge problem.
>
> I have a factory three-bladed prop and I almost always
> back my boat into virtually any slip and have done so
> in strong cross winds (up to 25 knots) without any
> problem and in cross currents with a little help from
> a spring line. When Commitment doesn't move smartly in
> reverse, I know it is time to scrape the prop clean.
> Other than that...
>
> Most problems in backing that I have observed, come
> from a lack of good technique and a lack of patience.
> Usually too much rudder too soon.
>
> Time and again on the 90 degree swing and back
> maneuver, I observe a captain throw the engine into
> reverse, look over the shoulder and start steering
> before the boat has stopped moving forward.
>
> Guess what, that action swings the stern just like
> prop walk and you are out of alignment before you even
> get going. If you don't even look back until you start
> moving back, you will avoid this problem
>
> Most marinas do not have enough channel width to get
> up enough speed in reverse if you do a 90 right in
> front of your slip in any serious cross wind. By the
> time you even get the boat stopped, the wind is
> tarting to blow off the bow. The reason the bow blows
> off first, is because both the keel and the rudder
> (which slow lateral movement because of drag) are
> located aft of the boats center of moment.
>
> By heading downwind in the channel past the slip and
> backing into the wind, you get water flowing across
> the rudder and get control while the wind is not
> working against you. Once you are moving in reverse
> and water is flowing across these big rudders, any
> prop walk is completely negated and you overcome the
> effect of the wind on the bow. By the same token, if
> you put the rudder hard over, it will stall, lose
> steering ability and act as a brake.
>
> When you turn into the slip from the far side of the
> channel, aim for the outer windward piling and turn in
> just before hitting it. The wind will help keep you
> off of it. Pick up your spring and bow line at the
> cockpit, secure the spring and walk the bow line
> forward to control the bow as you slow down. Slowing
> down will allow the wind to push the bow off and must
> be countered.
>
> It is very important that you do not pull on the bow
> line any more than is absolutely necessary to keep the
> bow from falling off in the wind and then only pull
> laterally. Hauling on this line in an excess of
> enthusiasm and desire to 'help' will result in
> swinging the stern when the helmsman least needs that
> to happen or stopping too far out in the slip.
>
> Since I frequently sail solo, I leave my lines on the
> pilings. I use a bowline looped on the piling and have
> pre-adjusted the length so that the eye can be dropped
> over the deck cleats at the proper distance.
>
> I throw the tranny into neutral as I pick up the
> spring line, drop it on the cleat then take the
> windward bow line forward and secure it, and lastly
> the secure windward stern line while throwing the
> engine into forward and goosing it a bit to avoid
> loading the spring line (make sure the rudder is
> straight or you'll swing the stern).
>
> On a 'good' day I can pick up the lines by hand. On a
> so-so day, I need to use the boat hooks that I have
> readied prior to entering the channel. On a bad day, I
> wrestle with the safety line between me and my
> slip-mate and fend off with boat hooks while silently
> cursing my poor judgment and impatience.
>
> I say silently...because I have learned that shouting
> will only attract more witnesses to my ignominy like
> flies to roadkill.
>
> I am trying to teach the Admiral the trick on windless
> days when she is willing. My logic is that it is
> better to position my huge butt on the lines and her
> tiny one at the helm on windy days. In her case, it is
> primarily a lack of confidence that impedes her
> success, but after 33 years I have learned that it is
> better not to push the issue, stay friends and keep it
> all fun.
>
> She also helps me to keep perspective when, on a
> 'good' day with dock full of admiring spectators, she
> observes how much she likes it when I occasionally
> make the situation appear as if I might have some
> meager clue as to what I'm trying to do.
>
> Best Regards and Fair Winds
> cb
>
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> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:12:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AFI cockpit table
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>
> Fair question. Had one on a prior boat. No way that
> they are worth the extra money to me (almost double
> the price) and they are smaller and don't have the
> drink/binocular holder.
> cb
>
> --- crashley at gte.net wrote:
>
>> Okay, I'll probably piss off a bunch of people, but
>> why didn't you buy an
>> Edson cockpit table. I don't think it even has a
>> "leg".
>>
>> CRA
>> Rosebud #882
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chris Burti" <cburti at yahoo.com>
>> To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:02 AM
>> Subject: [C320-list] AFI cockpit table
>>
>>
>> >I just purchased the AFI cockpit table.
>> >
>> > Of course, I have run into the same problem with
>> the
>> > leg previously discussed on the list. I have two
>> > questions.
>> >
>> > I've looked at Jeff's excellent and elegant
>> solution
>> > on the website, but am left wondering if anyone
>> else
>> > has come up with an even simpler solution.
>> >
>> > Does anyone else think that it is incredibly
>> stupid to
>> > design a table that will not work on the most
>> popular
>> > pedestal and guard on the market. (My son, a
>> diehard
>> > Tarheel, suggested that it might be the work
>> product
>> > of an NCSU Engineering alumnus.)
>> >
>> > Chris Burti
>> > "Commitment"
>> > Catalina 320, #867,
>> > Farmville, NC
>> >
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> Chris Burti
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> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:16:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Music
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> There are a half a dozen sites that will sell these
> for under $190/pr.
>
> --- Steve Magennis <magenns at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> The under the catbird seat speaker pods from NavPod
>> contain PolyPlaner
>> MA7500 waterproof speakers.  They are available
>> directly from Ocean
>> Equipment
>>
>>
> http://www.oceanequipment.com/products/navpod/sail/speakerpod/index.htm
>>
>>
>> SP100 SpeakerPod Speaker Housings with Poly-Planar
>> Water-Proof MA7500
>> Speakers 11"x6"x8"
>>  $315.00
>>
>> That's what is installed when you purchase your boat
>> with a stereo
>> system from Catalina.
>>
>> Steve
>> Alchemist #909
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Stanley Rogacevicz <SROGACEV at holycross.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Jon,
>> >    I've always been a fan of Polyplanar Low Mag
>> Interference speakers
>> > wherever you place them although I did have some
>> intermittent
>> > internal
>> > connection problems with some previous wall
>> mounted 'panel' speakers
>> > #5500 I think. I just added 6 to my new boat from
>> subcompact for the
>> > cockpit to big wall mounted 'box' speakers for a
>> couple interior
>> > rooms
>> > and I'm happy with all of them. From Defender of
>> course.
>> > Stan
>> >
>> > >>> jonvez at comcast.net 6/20/2006 8:06 am >>>
>> > Thanks to all those who replied on the location.
>> Now for what could
>> > be
>> > akin to bringing props up :) What brands/models
>> are recommended?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Jon Vez
>> >
>> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
>> > From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
>> >
>> > > Mine have been there for 7 years with no water
>> problem. However, if
>> > you
>> > > ever intend to sleep in the aft cabin while the
>> music is on I do
>> > not
>> >
>> > > recommend this installation location. The sound
>> reverberates into
>> > the
>> >
>> > > aft cabin making sleep difficult.
>> > >
>> > > Adam
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message----- 
>> > > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> > > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> > > jonvez at comcast.net
>> > > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:16 AM
>> > > To: C320-List
>> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Music
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > For those that have installed their speakers in
>> the stern locker
>> > > hatches, do you have problems with water
>> entering through where the
>> >
>> > > speakers are mounted? Most installations I've
>> seen on Catalina's
>> > tend
>> > to
>> > > be under the stern seats in a navpod type
>> enclosure. The same
>> > > installations headaches as others have mentioned
>> have kept me from
>> > doing
>> > > this project-- 
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Jon Vez
>> > >
>> > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
>> > > From: "Ralph Winkler"
>> > >
>> > > > The cockpit speakers on Wind Dancer are
>> mounted on the face side
>> > of
>> >
>> > > > each
>> > > > stern locker hatch. This was the installation
>> by the dealer for
>> > the
>> >
>> > > > original buyer. The speakers are really good
>> quality and the face
>> >
>> > > plates on
>> > > > them are substantial enough that they have not
>> shown any effects
>> > of
>> >
>> > > stray
>> > > > feet. Needless to say the installation at this
>> location is allot
>> > > easier
>> > > > then trying to run wires in the stern rail to
>> get under the rail
>> > > seats.
>> > > >
>> > > > Ralph Winkler
>> > > > Milwaukee
>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > > From:
>> > > > To:
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>> > > > Subject: C320-List Digest, Vol 24, Issue 2
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>> > > > > 1. Water Line unions (Mark Koch)
>> > > > > 2. Re: Water Line unions (Pat Moriarty)
>> > > > > 3. Re: Water Line unions (Jeffrey Hare)
>> > > > > 4. Re: Music (crashley at gte.net)
>> > > > > 5. Re: Music (Jeffrey Hare)
>> > > > > 6. Re: Reefer Blanket (Barry Fahrer)
>> > > > > 7. Re: Music (crashley at gte.net)
>> > > > > 8. Re: Reefer Blanket
>> (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
>> > > > > 9. Re: TuftedTopper Question
>> (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
>> > > > > 10. Re: Reefer Blanket (Chris Burti)
>> > > > > 11. Re: Reefer Blanket (Joe Barrett)
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>> > > > > Message: 1
>> > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:32:48 -0400
>> > > > > From: "Mark Koch"
>> > > > > Subject: [C320-list] Water Line unions
>> > > > > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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>> > > > > How do the white unions in the water lines
>> operate. I have
>> > tried
>> >
>> > > > > pushing,
>>
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> Chris Burti
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> Catalina 320, #867,
> Farmville, NC
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> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:19:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley sink
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> Put the drain plug in one side and hold it in place.
> While there is still water in the other sink, cup your
> hand over the drain and push down smartly mimicking a
> plunger. Works like a charm.
>
> --- Scott Thompson <sthompson at toad.net> wrote:
>
>> 2 words:  port list
>> <rimshot>
>>
>> Keg of beer in the head solves the problem, or so
>> I've read here. I have
>> the same sink situation and solve it with a paper
>> towel when I leave the
>> boat, if I remember to do so, like everyone else.
>>
>> Does anyone have an easy solution for galley sinks
>> that are draining
>> slowly?  This seems to be a frequent problem for me.
>>  (My kids seem to
>> think we have a garbage disposal on board just like
>> at home.)  By "easy"
>> I mean something that does not involve dismantling
>> the drain lines or
>> hauling the boat.
>>
>> crashley at gte.net wrote:
>> > Your galley sink should drain completely. It's
>> certainly not below water
>> > level so I don't understand how water can stay
>> there.
>> >
>> > CRA
>> > Rosebud #882
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From:
>> <amshd2 at aol.com>
>> > To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 3:45 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley sink
>> >
>> >
>> >> Yep
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Dennyats at aol.com
>> >> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>> >> Sent: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:48:44 EDT
>> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley sink
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have the same problem #19.  Also, my drains are
>> not the  low point
>> >> so the
>> >> sink does not completely drain.  Anyone else have
>> this  problem?
>> >> Denny Eichberg
>> >>
>>
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> Chris Burti
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> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:21:24 -0700
> From: "Ed or Sue Edwards" <edandsue at waypoint.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Polar Chart- C320
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> While looking for Jeff Church's pictures on changing the companionway 
> doors to Lucite (nice idea), I found an article on "polar charts".
> Not too long ago there were several mentions of polar charts but I 
> couldn't find one for the 320.  Both of these sets of pictures are in the 
> Photo Gallery.  The polar charts were submitted by David Cardoza and can 
> be found near the bottom of the Photo Gallery.
>
> Ed Edwards, #347  "REBOUND"
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:55:57 -0400
> From: "Russell G. Monaco" <russgm at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] temp gauge issue
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> ok, will go to the boat tmrw, do you recall where on the engine is this 
> wire
> connected?
> -russ
>
>
> On 6/20/06, crashley at gte.net <crashley at gte.net> wrote:
>>
>> Loose connections or a bad sensor? I had a bad connection on my temp
>> sensor
>> that was acting up. Had to resplice the wire at the sensor end (on the
>> engine). Once in a while my fuel gauge goes to zero and recovers when I'm
>> not looking, but it hasn't done that in a while.
>>
>> CRA
>> #882
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Russell G. Monaco" <russgm at gmail.com>
>> To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:17 AM
>> Subject: [C320-list] temp gauge issue
>>
>>
>> > Always something new...
>> > Yesterday when I was returning to dock under power I noticed my temp
>> gauge
>> > was reading about 120, but also jumping abit, FYI-120 is as far to
>> > left/coldest reading available, the engine is a very consistent 180
>> > degrees
>> > normally.  Any clues? any hints? any suggestions? any help....
>> >
>> > --
>> > Russell Monaco
>> > home:(914)669-8907, cell:(914)260-9850, work:(914)347-6360
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Russell Monaco
> home:(914)669-8907, cell:(914)260-9850, work:(914)347-6360
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:18:24 -0400
> From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] temp gauge issue
> To: <russ at monacofamily.net>, "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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> The temp sensor is screwed into a Brass/bronze T-fitting right above the
> alternator.  It has a screw holding a single wire on the end.
>
> Chris H. ordered an extra one for me from seaward recently for around 15
> bucks.  If the fresh water cooling has a leak around this sensor, it
> corrodes pretty easily.  Replacing it is easy, unscrew the old sensor, and
> screw in a new one. Reattach wire.
>
> -Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russell G. Monaco [mailto:russgm at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:56 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] temp gauge issue
>
> ok, will go to the boat tmrw, do you recall where on the engine is this 
> wire
> connected?
> -russ
>
>
> On 6/20/06, crashley at gte.net <crashley at gte.net> wrote:
>>
>> Loose connections or a bad sensor? I had a bad connection on my temp
>> sensor
>> that was acting up. Had to resplice the wire at the sensor end (on the
>> engine). Once in a while my fuel gauge goes to zero and recovers when I'm
>> not looking, but it hasn't done that in a while.
>>
>> CRA
>> #882
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Russell G. Monaco" <russgm at gmail.com>
>> To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:17 AM
>> Subject: [C320-list] temp gauge issue
>>
>>
>> > Always something new...
>> > Yesterday when I was returning to dock under power I noticed my temp
>> gauge
>> > was reading about 120, but also jumping abit, FYI-120 is as far to
>> > left/coldest reading available, the engine is a very consistent 180
>> > degrees
>> > normally.  Any clues? any hints? any suggestions? any help....
>> >
>> > --
>> > Russell Monaco
>> > home:(914)669-8907, cell:(914)260-9850, work:(914)347-6360
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Russell Monaco
> home:(914)669-8907, cell:(914)260-9850, work:(914)347-6360
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:27:25 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Karl Mielenhausen  _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] FW: Re: Are 6V Batteries Superior To 12V
> Batteries For DeepCycle Applications?
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Message-ID: <20060620172725.CE5993985 at email.iwon.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> Robert,
>
>
>
> Both 4D's and 8D's are approx. 21" long. 4D's are 8.5" wide while 8D's are 
> 11" wide. Given the compartment size and geometry, I doubt if you have 
> 8D's. If you do, however, let me know so I can add it to my list of C320 
> Design Changes. Your hull # also.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Karl Mielenhausen
>
> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>
> New Bern, NC
>
> http://members.cox.net/mielen/
>
>
>
> From: Robert Seastream [mailto: seastream at adelphia.net]
>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>
> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:26 -0400
>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Are 6V Batteries Superior To 12V Batteries For 
> DeepCycle Applications?
>
>
>
> I've looked, but other than they're HUGE (perhaps 2-3 feet long?), I 
> <br>saw no markings on them.<br><br>On Jun 17, 2006, at 1:19 AM, 
> Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com wrote:<br><br>> Have you looked at your 
> batteries to see what they are? Probably a <br>> good idea to see what you 
> came equipped with....<br>><br>> cuba libre 
> 2<br>> --------------------------<br>> Regards,<br>> OD<br>><br>> Sent 
> from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld<br>><br>><br>><br>> ----- Original 
> Message -----<br>> From: Robert Seastream [seastream at adelphia.net]<br>> 
> Sent: 06/16/2006 08:02 PM<br>> To: C320-List 
> <C320-List at catalina320.com><br>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Are 6V Batteries 
> Superior To 12V Batteries <br>> For DeepCycle Applications?<br>><br>> What 
> group batteries are in the 320?  I've got a 2002 model year and <br>> 
> would like to know.  I think they're 8D but have heard 4D 
> somewhere.<br>><br>> Bob<br>><br>> On Jun 16, 2006, at 9:42 PM, David 
> Gleason wrote:<br>><br>>> In years past, around 1956 or
> so, the auto industry started switching<br>>> from 6 volt to 12 volt 
> systems.  One of the reasons I was told was <br>>> that<br>>> according to 
> Ohms law, by increasing the voltage to 12 they were able <br>>> to<br>>> 
> reduce the size of the wiring needed to carry the same amperage. 
> The<br>>> battery cables on 6 volt auto were twice the size of what you 
> see on <br>>> 12<br>>> volt autos.<br>>><br>>> Dave Gleason<br>>> Proud 
> Mary, #150<br>>><br>>><br>>> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:28:22 -0500 "Robert E. 
> Sloat"<br>>> <resloat at comcast.net> writes:<br>>>> A comment-If 6 volt 
> batteries are better, why does every sailboat<br>>>> manufacturer equip 
> their product with 12 volts batteries.  And they<br>>>> don't<br>>>> even 
> offer a 6 volt option.  Their options often are upgrading so<br>>>> they 
> must<br>>>> have made the decision that the 6 volt thing is not an 
> improvement.<br>>>>  ----- Original Message -----<br>>>> From: 
> <BAdams3491 at aol.com><br>>>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com><br>>>>
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:54 PM<br>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Are 6V 
> Batteries Superior To 12V Batteries For<br>>>> DeepCycle 
> Applications?<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>> Seems to me we have always thought the 
> answer was yes.   This is<br>>>> from the<br>>>>> Optima Battery web 
> site:<br>>>> (_http://www.1st-optima-batteries.com/faq17.asp_<br>>>>> 
> (http://www.1st-optima-batteries.com/faq17.asp) )<br>>>>><br>>>>> It's 
> popularly believed that 6 volt batteries are better for deep<br>>>> 
> cycle<br>>>>> power applications than 12 volt batteries, but it isn't 
> true. This<br>>>> myth<br>>>> likely<br>>>>> developed from the fact that 
> golf carts use 6 volt systems.<br>>>> Because golf<br>>>> cart<br>>>>> 
> batteries were the only deep cycle batteries widely available for<br>>>> 
> many<br>>>> years,<br>>>>> the best way to obtain good 12 volt deep cycle 
> power was to<br>>>> connect two 6<br>>>>> volt golf cart batteries in 
> series (or more batteries could be<br>>>> connected<br>>>> in a<br>>>>>
> combination series and parallel configuration for higher voltages<br>>>> 
> like 24<br>>>> volts<br>>>>> or 36 volts.) The effectiveness of that 
> approach owed entirely to<br>>>> the<br>>>> design<br>>>>> characteristics 
> and quality of the batteries used, not to the fact<br>>>> that<br>>>> 
> the<br>>>>> batteries used produced 6 volts.<br>>>>><br>>>>> In reality 
> both 6 volt batteries and 12  volt batteries are simply<br>>>> 
> built<br>>>> from<br>>>>> 2 volt cells; if a battery is built with  three 
> such cells, it's a<br>>>> 6 volt<br>>>>> battery. If a battery is built 
> with six such  cells, then it's a<br>>>> 12 volt<br>>>> battery.<br>>>>> 
> To make a 12 volt system by connecting two 6  volt batteries in<br>>>> 
> series is<br>>>> to<br>>>>> do nothing more than to build a 12 volt 
> battery  with two cases<br>>>> and<br>>>> external<br>>>>> 
> interconnection. In fact, every cable end connection  results in<br>>>> 
> some<br>>>>> efficiency loss, so the two 6 volt batteries, because they
> must<br>>>> be<br>>>> connected by a<br>>>>> cable, will be slightly less 
> efficient than the 12 volt unit.<br>>>>> Comments?<br>>>>> Bert<br>>>>> At 
> Ease<br>>>>> 
> #442<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> 
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:39:13 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Karl Mielenhausen  _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] FW: Re:  Reefer Blanket
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Message-ID: <20060620173913.5FA7C3956 at email.iwon.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>
> Another option is one of those auto windshield reflectors. I got one 
> that's sort of like 1/4" bubble wrap but metalized on both sides. 
> Available at discount and auto stores. Trimmed to fit easily. Stiff enough 
> to maintain shape and seal. Used the leftover to insulate the engine 
> compartment wall adjacent to the reefer. Still have enough left to do the 
> 2 cabintop opening hatches when I get around to it.
>
> PS. Without the label "Marine", "Boat" or "Yacht", I can actually afford 
> it!!
>
>
>
> Karl Mielenhausen
>
> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>
> New Bern, NC
>
> http://members.cox.net/mielen/
>
>
>
> From: Ray Durand [mailto: durand.mail at verizon.net]
>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:09:38 -0700
>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Reefer Blanket
>
>
>
> On Orlando's advice, I bought a blanket for the reefer around three 
> years<br>ago and found that it works just great.  The blanket sits inside 
> the reefer,<br>just below the lid bottoms and just fits inside the 
> opening.  <br><br>I just happened to come across the info a few days ago 
> in my desk, so here<br>it is:<br><br>Standout Yacht Fittings<br>6826 Cliff 
> Ave., KPS<br>Longbranch, WA 98351<br>800-622-1877<br>Fax: 
> 253-884-2253<br><br>I ordered it three years ago, so I can't vouch that 
> the company is still in<br>business, but it's a toll-free phone call to 
> find out.  I ordered mine a<br>little longer than the reefer opening.  The 
> extra length provides a<br>convenient tab to pull on when you want to get 
> into the reefer.  I believe<br>the blanket I ordered is 13 x 38 1/2 
> inches - I recommend measuring the<br>opening on your reefer before you 
> order.<br><br>Ray Durand, #822 <br><br><br>-----Original 
> Message-----<br>From:
> C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] 
> On Behalf Of Henry LeSieur<br>Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:36 PM<br>To: 
> C320-List at catalina320.com<br>Subject: [C320-list] Reefer 
> Blanket<br><br>It's been mentioned on previous posts the placement of a 
> blanket (?) over<br>the reefer as an insulator.<br>   <br>  1. What type 
> of blanket is being used?<br>   <br>  2. Where can it be purchased?<br> 
> <br>  3. Is it placed inside the reefer or outside the reefer?<br>   <br> 
> Thanks, in advance<br>   <br>  Hank<br>   <br>  Camelot #331<br> 
> <br><br><br>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:46:54 -0700
> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Re:  Reefer Blanket
> To: kmielen at iwon.com, C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID:
> <OFF7A0669C.B92E863F-ON88257193.006140F1-88257193.0061ADC2 at averydennison.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Not sure if cheapest is always better---those are reflectors, not
> insulators. What I bought cost about $90, it's got an R-45 insulation
> factor, 2 of them, each fits in the door opening...I can keep the
> thermostat at "2" and maintain 41F for the weekend at Catalina. When I
> charge my batteries with my Honda 2000 for an hour or so, I turn up the
> thermostat to "5" for the duration of the charging process then back down
> to "2"...
>
> cuba libre 2
>
>
>
>             "Karl
>             Mielenhausen
>             _/) "                                                     To
>             <kmielen at iwon.co         C320-List at catalina320.com
>             m>                                                        cc
>             Sent by:
>             C320-List-bounce                                     Subject
>             s at catalina320.or         [C320-list] FW: Re:  Reefer Blanket
>             g
>
>
>             06/20/2006 10:39
>             AM
>
>
>              Please respond
>                    to
>             kmielen at iwon.com
>             ; Please respond
>                    to
>                C320-List
>             <C320-List at catal
>               ina320.org>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Another option is one of those auto windshield reflectors. I got one
> that's sort of like 1/4" bubble wrap but metalized on both sides.
> Available at discount and auto stores. Trimmed to fit easily. Stiff enough
> to maintain shape and seal. Used the leftover to insulate the engine
> compartment wall adjacent to the reefer. Still have enough left to do the
> 2 cabintop opening hatches when I get around to it.
>
> PS. Without the label "Marine", "Boat" or "Yacht", I can actually afford
> it!!
>
>
>
> Karl Mielenhausen
>
> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>
> New Bern, NC
>
> http://members.cox.net/mielen/
>
>
>
> From: Ray Durand [mailto: durand.mail at verizon.net]
>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:09:38 -0700
>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Reefer Blanket
>
>
>
> On Orlando's advice, I bought a blanket for the reefer around three
> years<br>ago and found that it works just great.  The blanket sits inside
> the reefer,<br>just below the lid bottoms and just fits inside the
> opening.  <br><br>I just happened to come across the info a few days ago
> in my desk, so here<br>it is:<br><br>Standout Yacht Fittings<br>6826 Cliff
> Ave., KPS<br>Longbranch, WA 98351<br>800-622-1877<br>Fax:
> 253-884-2253<br><br>I ordered it three years ago, so I can't vouch that
> the company is still in<br>business, but it's a toll-free phone call to
> find out.  I ordered mine a<br>little longer than the reefer opening.  The
> extra length provides a<br>convenient tab to pull on when you want to get
> into the reefer.  I believe<br>the blanket I ordered is 13 x 38 1/2 inches
> - I recommend measuring the<br>opening on your reefer before you
> order.<br><br>Ray Durand, #822 <br><br><br>-----Original
> Message-----<br>From:
> C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]
> On Behalf Of Henry LeSieur<br>Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:36
> PM<br>To: C320-List at catalina320.com<br>Subject: [C320-list] Reefer
> Blanket<br><br>It's been mentioned on previous posts the placement of a
> blanket (?) over<br>the reefer as an insulator.<br>   <br>  1. What type
> of blanket is being used?<br>   <br>  2. Where can it be purchased?<br>
> <br>  3. Is it placed inside the reefer or outside the reefer?<br>   <br>
> Thanks, in advance<br>   <br>  Hank<br>   <br>  Camelot #331<br>
> <br><br><br>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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