[C320-list] Securing outboard engine and gasoline

Wed Jun 28 08:18:23 PDT 2006

My center seat has been comfortably ensconced in my garage for the last 11
years...I just took it out in preparation of selling cuba libre 2...

cuba libre 2

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You mean that you actually still have the center seat?  I thought that
that was the first thing that everyone took off their boat!.

If I send my wife and dog out on a search and destroy mission, we may
be able to find traces of it.  I think that that seat was on my boat
for all of 15 minutes, and it is probably now in a pile of junk in my
garage waiting for the next owner of the Alchemist to hide in his / her
garage.

With the seat in place, there isn't enough room to stand comfortably
for any length of time behind the wheel, so after the shakedown sail
with the dealer, off it went.

BTW, The plastic thingy is the called the "beer keeper inner", and it
does an excellent job of keeping the empties from rolling out into the
lake (after all, we have a bottle / can deposit in MI, and we wouldn't
want to lose our dimes!).  This beer keeper inner is the primary
doohickey that makes our boats better than a Melgas 24 or a Melgas 32.
On both of those boats, there is othing to keep the crew's beers from
washing out the back of the boat.

Steve
Alchemist #909

--- Allan Field <Allan.Field at comcast.net> wrote:

> Scott - I removed the aft seat today and placed the generator between
> the
> aft lockers.  The generator was a perfect fit with the plastic shield
> that
> keeps things from rolling out the transom removed (what is that thing
> called?) and with the plastic shield in place, the generator stuck
> out about
> 1 inch.  I am going to try and find someone who can make a new center
> seat
> that is high enough to get the generator in that space but still keep
> the
> seat. - Allan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:20 PM
> To: Catalina 320 List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Securing outboard engine and gasoline
>
> The 2000 will also fir in the starboard aft locker on the shelf
> there. I
> tried it with no problem, you have to tilt it slightly is all. I was
> going
> to put in some straps that would tighten it down during transit but
> alas--sailing, work travel and other priorities conspired to my never
> finishing that project.
>
> I have been keeping it under the salon table till I got to Two
> Harbors or
> Cat Harbor then I would bring it up into the cockpit...in some heavy
> weather
> and swells, never had a problem with it being down below--it never
> moved
>
> cuba libre 2
> --------------------------
> Regards,
> OD
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: allan.field
> Sent: 06/25/2006 03:41 PM
> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Securing outboard engine and gasoline
>
> Scott - The generator stays in the anchor locker only while going
> from point
> to point.  It comes out prior to deploying the anchor.  The
> alternatives are
> in the cabin (which I believe is where Orlando stores his when in
> transit
> but I don't like the gas smell down below) or between the aft seats
> if I
> remove the center seat which I haven't tried yet.  And you are right
> - it
> does not actually fit under the center seat.  The seat needs to be
> removed
> and the generator sticks out maybe 4-6 inches towards the binnacle.
>
> The mount is a standard, hard plastic, 2-piece mount that mounts on
> the "T"
> of the stern rail.  The 2-piece mount clamps over both the horizontal
> and
> vertical rail.  There are much more expensive ones, such as in teak
> or from
> Edson, but this one does the job.
>
> I keep the dingy gas tank in the dingy and tie it in.  This
> afternoon, it
> was floating in 6 inches of water!  Needless to say, we did not leave
> Georgetown today in the all day, heavy rains.
>
> Years ago, I kept my first boat on Bodkin Creek for about 2 years.
> That
> boat had a 4-foot draft.  I used to anchor in Swan Creek on many
> weekends
> and never had any trouble.  I doubt that much has changed.  There are
> thin
> places in the creek but there always was plenty of room far away from
> the
> mooring field.  But I have not been in there for about 15 years so I
> will
> report  back if things have changed. It always was one of my favorite
> spots.
> Keep in mind what the past week has been like heat and humidity-wise.
>  If
> next week is like last week, we will be in Marina's versus on the
> hook.  In
> fact, we haven't been on the hook yet on this trip.
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sea Shadow - #808
> Columbia, MD
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Scott Thompson <sthompson at toad.net>
>
> > Allan: Doesn't a 43 pound generator in your anchor locker make
> > anchoring rather difficult? If you put the generator between the
> aft
> > seats I assume that it doesn't actually fit under the seats. Is
> that
> > right?
> >
> > Regarding the outboard engine mount, which one did you purchase at
> WM?
> > Is it the Johnson mount? Where did you attach it to the rail?
> >
> > Where do you store your dinghy gas tank while sailing?
> >
> > Finally, I'd be interested in hearing a report after you visit Swan
>
> > Creek. That's the closest anchorage to me on the Eastern Shore but
> I've
> > never been in because the charts make it look shallow and I've
> heard
> > it's full of moorings.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > allan.field at comcast.net wrote:
> > > Scott - I'll weigh in on this one from our experience. We have a
> Nissan
> 5 HP,
> > 4-stroke with an external fuel tank. I have had 2-strokes in the
> past with
>
> > internal tanks but would not go back to them as the fuel left in
> the tank
> tends
> > to wax the carb if stored for a time. Plus the 4-stroke is more
> environment
> > friendly.
> > >
> > > We keep the motor on the aft stern rail on a motor mount we got
> from WM.
> The
> > motor weighs about 80 pounds. We also had Kato Marine in Annapolis
> make us
> a
> > lifting crane with a 4:1 purchase. With the crane, moving the
> engine from
> rail
> > to digny transom literally is a one-handed job. The stern rail is
> no worse
> the
> > wear for holding the motor these past 4 years or so.
> > >
> > > Our external tank holds 2.5 gallons of gas. Even after being out
> for 18
> days
> > (as we are now) and all the other times we use the dingy during the
> season, we
> > will not empty the tank. We do add Sta-Bil to the tank. After each
> trip,
> we
> > disconnect the hose from the tank to the motor at the tank with the
> motor
> > running so as to exhaust all fuel both in the hose and in the
> engine. We
> found
> > that leaving fuel in the hose stunk up the boat and leaving fuel in
> the
> motor
> > for an extended period gummed up the carb. What is really
> surprising is
> that
> > once the hose is disconnected from the tank, it takes a good 15-20
> minutes
> for
> > all the fuel to burn-off. Little wonder we can't use 2.5 gallons of
> gas in
> an
> > entire season.
> > >
> > > The final lesson learned is to keep the fuel tank vent slightly
> cracked
> open
> > even when storing the tank. Otherwise, pressure builds up in the
> tank and
> > eventually gas starts to blow past the seals. The tank directions
> also
> > recommend doing this but in our case, Field's Law prevailed - If
> Field has
> a
> > 50/50 chance of doing something right or wrong the first time, 90%
> of the
> time
> > Field will do it wrong the first time...
> > >
> > > We also purchased a Honda 2000 generator. It will not start a
> 12,000 BTU
> air
> > conditioner. However, it will run the microwave, outlets and
> charger fine.
> We
> > store ours in the anchor well and have the factory cover (extra
> cost) in
> place.
> > However, we do not carry spare gas cans on board. If we did, I
> imagine
> that I
> > would lash them to a side stanchion somehow but again, these motors
> use so
>
> > little fuel that carrying spare just is not necessary.
> > >
> > > We did see another Catalina on this trip with the Honda
> generator. They
> > removed the seat between the 2 aft lockers and store their
> generator in
> that
> > space. The geneator stuck out maybe 6 inches past the seat. This
> may be
> > something we do in the future as since installing the NavPod for
> the
> > chartplotter, that seat has become virtually worthless anyway as we
> can no
>
> > longer see forward under the instrument pod.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Allan S. Field
> > > Sea Shadow - #808
> > > Columbia, MD
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > From: Scott Thompson
> > >
> > >
> > >> I'm in the market for an outboard for a dinghy and possibly for
> one of
> > >> the Honda 2000 generators that Orlando is keen on. Questions:
> Where do
> > >> others secure their outboards when not on the dinghy? Do the
> Johnson or
>
> > >> Edson mounting brackets work well on the stern rail of a 1999
> vintage
> > >> 320? What kind of weight limit are we talking about to use
> these?
> > >> Also, where do others store a spare gas can on board?
> > >>
> > >> Scott Thompson
> > >> Surprise, 653
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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