[C320-list] PHRF HandicapsI

[Dave Moores]

Orlando, what a lame one-liner.  Tell us what boats you regularly compete
with on more-or-less even terms, boat-for-boat.  Then tell us their ratings.
I think that will illustrate something!

As we all know, most PHRF regions rate the C320 deep keel at around 150 give
or take, and most people seem to think that is about right.  I believe we
are sailing the boat to its 150 potential, indeed probably a bit better, as
we are starting to win races this year for the first time at our new 141
rating.

BUT, try and beat on handicap, good sailors sailing, for example, C&C 33 Mk
IIs which have a well-established rating of 138, in an unmodified C320 rated
135. Never gonna happen my friend. 

Dave M

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If you sail the boat to it's potential, you'll never have to worry about
'better' handicaps...


                                                                          
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Mike, just to normalize terms:  the higher the PHRF rating number, the lower
the resulting corrected time in the race results.  This lower corrected time
gives you a better chance to win, so raising the PHRF rating number means
that the handicap penalizes you less.  So I would call the higher number a
"better" handicap, and you always want the highest number you can get! (I
think you knew that but the way you wrote it sounded not quite right :-))

Dave M

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Sent: October 11, 2006 2:25 PM
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Subject: PHRF HandicapsI


raising the phrf number from 135 to 141 is giving you a greater handicap as
the lower the number the faster the boat. catalina 42 base number is around
102, 320 around 159, j105 base around 78, j120 base around 51. numbers will
vary from depending on region and equipment and other conditions

Mike
 c320 #769

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Cardoza" <dave at avaloncon.com>
To: <catalina at thehares.com>; "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 320 Mk II


Did any one take pictures at the boat show?

-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:32 AM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 320 Mk II

Best thing to do here is listen to Gerry Douglas introduce the design of the
C320 MKII:

http://www.catalina320.com/AudioFiles/GerryDouglasDiscussesC320MKII.m3u

-JeffH

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Moores [mailto:dmoores at cogeco.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:20 AM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] 320 Mk II

All the talk about the splash guard is well and good, but what about
important stuff like hull and rig?  Or did they just leave those as is?

- by the way we finally got our rating raised to 141 (was 135 !!!) for the
2006 season,  and we are beating some good boats and skippers at that
rating.  Go Figure!

Dave M

California Girl # 342













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