[C320-list] FW: Improved Bilge

[Jeffrey Hare]

Yup.  Right on our very own site.  :)

http://tinyurl.com/35pp4e 
 
The full real ugly url is below...

http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album52

-JeffH

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Gates [mailto:argates2nd at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:33 AM
To: kmielen at iwon.com, C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Improved Bilge

Is there a link to the factory suggested fixes for the shallow bilge
improvements info?
Thanks, Rollie   #182


> [Original Message]
> From: Karl Mielenhausen  _/) <kmielen at iwon.com>
> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Date: 4/20/07 6:38:03 PM
> Subject: [C320-list] FW:  Improved Bilge
>
>
> The deeper bilge (and deeper draft) started around hull #246, 
> according
to past discussions.
>
> Here is a link to design changes over the years....
>
> http://pages.suddenlink.net/kmielen/C320Docs/C320Changes.htm
>
>
>
> Please email me with corrections and/or additions.
>
>
>
> Karl Mielenhausen
>
> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>
> New Bern, NC
>
> http://pages.suddenlink.net/kmielen/
>
> From: momvan at aol.com [mailto: momvan at aol.com]
>
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:29:25 -0400
>
> Subject: [C320-list] Improved Bilge
>
>
>
> What year or hull number did the newer or deeper bilge appear? 
-----Original Message-----From: brer at adelphia.netTo:
c320-list at catalina320.comSent: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:49 AMSubject: Re:
[C320-list] SeaworthinessI must commend you on taking an early 320 more than
a few feet from the dock. The bilge system in these is an absolute joke. Any
water that leaks anywhere on this boat goes under the floor pan, not the so
called bilge. The only water that does go to this so called bilge is from
the stuffing box, but be careful if the hoses that enter are not sealed, the
water will leak OUT of the bilge. Who in their right mind would design a
boat with this joke of a bilge? And yes, I bought one of these follies, my
bad for not checking the bilge system out, but I never in my wildest dreams
would believe someone would design something like this.
Looks to me like Frank and the boys need to get out of the boat business and
design bathtubs. So anyone thinking about buying an early 320 
> think again or you will be removing the sole and drilling holes to get
the water out. Seaworthiness? You be the judge. But Larry I'm glad you had a
good trip sounds like fun.Don  ---- Larry Frank <WindSwept at stx.rr.com>
wrote: =============I sailed my 320 across the Gulf of Mexico from Texas to
Veracruz, MX in aregatta during the summer of 2006.  That trip and others in
the Gulf ofMexico along the Texas coast in the in rather snotty weather have
helped meform opinions about the 320s seaworthiness.  My observations:1.
Good seamanship trumps all other considerations.  Or said another way inany
boat bad decisions or poor preparation can and probably will lead toproblems
and disaster.  2.  Tracking is a weak point.  Big seas on a beam or broad
reach push therather broad stern around rather easily. 
Proper sail balance is critical.I have the wing keel; perhaps this is better
with the fin.  Anyways,steering by autopilot in large seas is not effective.
Manual steering willwear out 
> crew quickly.  Could a wind vane be mounted?  3.  Fuel capacity is low. 
Most people carry jerry cans and while thisworks, it is less than optimal.4.
Structurally, the hull and rigging, if properly maintained will take
alicking and keep on ticking.  I never had problems or concerns here,
andhave had complements from knowledgeable and experienced crew on this
point.5.  Open transom is a huge plus, at least in my opinion.  When we
purchasedWindSwept, this was a concern to me.  After getting pooped going
downwind in35 knots and big seas in the gulf and watching the water drain
out in acouple of seconds, I completely changed my opinion of this
feature.6.  For serious offshore work, some modifications and additions to
the basic320 are prudent.  What you need to do will somewhat be a function
of whatmodel year you have since Catalina makes improvements in design as a
modelmatures. I believe the person who told you "you might want a larger
boat" wascompletely accurate.  I'd like a 
> larger boat too for this type of sailing.However, the question should 
> be
can you do what you want to do in the boatyou have now?  Unless you own the
Queen Mary, there are always larger, morecapable boats.LarryWind Swept
Catalina 320 #246-----Original Message-----From:
c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com]
On Behalf Of Robert SeastreamSent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:02 PMTo:
C320-ListSubject: Re: [C320-list] SeaworthinessI've often wondered why, not
long ago (~20 years) people did crossings in ~25 foot boats, yet these days
upwards of 40 feet is indicated.Recently, while discussing going to Bermuda
in my 320 (off list), I was told I might want a larger boat like the
above.Bob Seastream'Intuition' hull 906On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:12 AM, pat
reynolds wrote:> If any have wondered about ocean crossing on a 320, it>
would probably be safer than the google map> directions for a new york to
paris, france trip,> particularly direction # 23 at 
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