[C320-list] Club Racing the C320

[Adam Weiner]

Yes, well no one has yet beat my argument that the best thing to do is
remove the engine, the shaft, the prop, and buy a Protector to take you
back and forth to the race line.  I don't see folding props on the
America's Cup Boats.  If you want fast, go for it.  Otherwise, pass the
beer and trim the main sheet.

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:31 PM
To: Catalina 320 List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320


Guys, your getting into a PHRF discussion...if you've ever raced PHRF
you would understand that 'cruising class' is not a priority for them
and if you start applying logic to the discussion you'll get a headached
because phrf rating are usually arbitrary and stupid...

Accept the fact that a folder makes your boat go faster and move
on...6spm, 9spm, doesn't make a difference....
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Regards,
OD

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----- Original Message -----
From: chris denny [cddcrd at pcsia.net]
Sent: 08/21/2007 09:11 PM
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320

If it is generally accepted that a folder is that much of a benefit, why

is the allowance for a fixed prop not greater? I thought the idea was to

make things "equal".  Is 6 seconds the "standard addition" for a fixed 
prop?
cd #328
Peter Clancy wrote:

>Casual racers may underestimate the value of relatively small speed 
>improvements.
>
> For example, assume a course is 15 nautical miles long. If you have a 
> modest 1/2 knot per mile speed advantage (with a folding prop) over an

> identical boat with a fixed prop and you average 6.5 knots, by the 
> time you reach the finish  you'll be at least 10 minutes ahead of the 
> slower boat. If that boat has a 6 second per mile rating advantage due

> to a fixed prop, he only gains 90 seconds or 1.5 minutes when 
> corrected. Generally speaking, the lighter the air, the greater the 
> benefit of a folding prop. We raced 'AROBAN' successfully for several 
> years with a Gori two-blade folder and took first in class in last 
> October's Columbus Day Regatta which is South Florida's largest annual

> sailboat race.
>
>The C320 is a capable racer especially when tweaked and sailed for 
>optimum speed.
>
>
>Peter Clancy
>'AROBAN' #222 (former owner)
>Miami, FL
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>  ----- Origi nal Message -----
>  From: Joe Barrett<mailto:joe at dolphinmortgage.com> 
>  To: 'C320-List'<mailto:c320-list at catalina320.com> 
>  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:19 AM
>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
>
>
>  If going from a fixed to a feathering/folding prop gains you 1/2-3/4 
> knot of  speed do the math. The 6 seconds you loose makes getting a  
> feathering/folding prop a no brainer.  Joe Barrett
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: 
>
c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com<mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.o
rg>
>  [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of chris denny
>  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:05 AM
>  To: C320-List
>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
>
>   
>   If a folder is that much help, why does having a fixed prop get you 
> just 6  seconds on your adjusted PHRF?  CD #328
>
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