[C320-list] Club Racing the C320
Dave Moores
dmoores at cogeco.ca
Tue Aug 28 06:08:40 PDT 2007
Beer after, also wine...but we carry the beer in cans to save weight. That
makes it a race boat in my book!
Dave M
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Adam Weiner
Sent: August 28, 2007 12:12 AM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
Nice. That is true. But if you were serious about racing, wouldn't you buy
a race boat? Let's take it one step further: is there beer consumed before
or during the race?
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of pat reynolds
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:18 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
All racing is serious!
--- Adam Weiner <esquirecatering at rcn.com> wrote:
> I only have one question: If you want to race
> seriously then what in
> the hell are you doing with a Catalina 320? Notice
> I didn't respond to
> the comment about me?
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Scott Thompson
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:03 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
>
>
> Because the rules are made by serious racers, and no
> serious racer wants
>
> a rule change that would generally make it better to
> have a slower
> sailing boat. Few racers, even on San Francisco
> Bay, share Adam's
> rapture about the the benefits of using a fixed prop
> as a brake! The
> rules are thus biased in favor of racing gear over
> cruising gear, and no
>
> one believes that they equalize all boats. If
> that's what you are after
>
> switch to a strict one design class and get out of
> PHRF.
>
> For what it's worth, I believe that folding props
> are faster than
> feathering ones, and if you really want to race
> successfully you will do
>
> better with a small two-bladed folder that folds
> into a really compact
> and streamlined package (e.g. the nicer Martec) than
> with any other
> prop. On the other hand, if you are really that
> serious about racing
> then the 320 isn't a very good choice of boat in the
> first place. I
> love to cruise my 320 and I love to race. But I
> race boats that are
> designed for speed, not cruising comfort.
>
> Scott
>
> chris denny wrote:
> > If it is generally accepted that a folder is that
> much of a benefit,
> > why
> > is the allowance for a fixed prop not greater? I
> thought the idea was
> to
> > make things "equal". Is 6 seconds the "standard
> addition" for a fixed
>
> > prop?
> > cd #328
> > Peter Clancy wrote:
> >
> >> Casual racers may underestimate the value of
> relatively small speed
> >> improvements.
> >>
> >> For example, assume a course is 15 nautical miles
> long. If you have a
> >> modest 1/2 knot per mile speed advantage (with a
> folding prop) over
> an
> >> identical boat with a fixed prop and you average
> 6.5 knots, by the
> >> time you reach the finish you'll be at least 10
> minutes ahead of the
>
> >> slower boat. If that boat has a 6 second per mile
> rating advantage
> due
> >> to a fixed prop, he only gains 90 seconds or 1.5
> minutes when
> >> corrected. Generally speaking, the lighter the
> air, the greater the
> >> benefit of a folding prop. We raced 'AROBAN'
> successfully for several
>
> >> years with a Gori two-blade folder and took first
> in class in last
> >> October's Columbus Day Regatta which is South
> Florida's largest
> annual
> >> sailboat race.
> >> The C320 is a capable racer especially when
> tweaked and sailed for
> >> optimum speed.
> >>
> >> Peter Clancy
> >> 'AROBAN' #222 (former owner)
> >> Miami, FL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Origi nal Message ----- From: Joe
> >> Barrett<mailto:joe at dolphinmortgage.com> To:
> >> 'C320-List'<mailto:c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August
> >> 21, 2007 9:19 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
> >>
> >>
> >> If going from a fixed to a feathering/folding
> prop gains you 1/2-3/4
> >> knot of
> >> speed do the math. The 6 seconds you loose makes
> getting a
> >> feathering/folding prop a no brainer.
> >> Joe Barrett
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:
> >>
>
c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com<mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.o
> rg>
> >>
> >> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> Behalf Of chris denny
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:05 AM
> >> To: C320-List
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
> >>
> >> If a folder is that much help, why does
> having a fixed prop get
> >> you just 6
> >> seconds on your adjusted PHRF?
> >> CD #328
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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