[C320-list] Club Racing the C320

Wed Aug 29 07:55:22 PDT 2007

Bruce

I had PropSpeed applied by my yard.? As I remember, it was about $250 for the PS and labor plus the cost of the haul out.

My boat is being hauled this week, but I will have to rely on the yard to describe the condition of the running gear, as I'll be in GA and my boat's in FL.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: brucestanley <brucestanley at optusnet.com.au>
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320

Hi Mike?
I would appreciate hearing from you as to how your PropSpeed has lasted.?
BTW did you know you have to remove all of the Pspeed prior to re applying a new coat??
Our experience is 12 mths +?
When you say the cost of PropSpeed is so expensive ... are you buying the Pspeed or having someone else do it??
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BruceS #1084?
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----- Original Message ----- From: <drshoffner at aol.com>?
To: <c320-list at catalina320.com>?
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:00 PM?
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320?
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> Thanks.? I used PropSpeed this season also and will haul my boat this week > to have a look, but it's awfully pricey.? A couple of years of PropSpeed > would pay for a Kiwi prop and some bottom paint.?
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> Mike?
> #171?
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> -----Original Message-----?
> From: brucestanley <brucestanley at optusnet.com.au>?
> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>?
> Sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 9:21 pm?
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320?
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> "How well does the Kiwi hold bottom paint.?"??
> The Kiwi prop blades seem to like PropSpeed over the normal Ablative/Hard > antifouls.??
> In Australia a lot of us are using PropSpeed.??
> PropSpeed holds over a 12 month period very well.??
> Ablative Antifoul will come off the blade tips.??
> Some put on a Hard Antifoul (2 coats) then add 2 coats of Ablative.??
> This sees them through to a 12 mth period??
> ??
> Bruce Stanley / Sydney??
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: <drshoffner at aol.com>??
> To: <c320-list at catalina320.com>??
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:30 AM??
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320??
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>> How well does the Kiwi hold bottom paint.? In FL where my boat lives, > >> marine growth on the runnng gear is a bigger problem than the bottom, and >> > I have not yet found a solution to prevent this.??
>>??
>> Mike??
>> #171??
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>> -----Original Message-----??
>> From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>??
>> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>??
>> Sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 7:39 pm??
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320??
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>> Good input Scott.???
>> ???
>> On feathering props, the Kiwi is unique in the way it feathers. It is 3 > >> balded and feathers each blade independantly. Each blade aligns with the >> > flow independ of shaft angle, where the shaft stops rotating (ie no >> need > to lock the shaft to be sure blades are folded properly) >> independant also > of underbody shape, heel etc etc. Other feathering >> props are made so all > blades are feathered at the same angle and don't >> consider shaft angle > etc.???
>> ???
>> Kirk???
>> Boomerang #124???
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Thompson" >> <sthompson at toad.net>???
>> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>???
>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:02 PM???
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320???
>> ???
>>> Because the rules are made by serious racers, and no serious racer wants >>> >> a > rule change that would generally make it better to have a slower >>> >> sailing > boat. Few racers, even on San Francisco Bay, share Adam's >>> >> rapture about > the the benefits of using a fixed prop as a brake! >>> The >> rules are thus > biased in favor of racing gear over cruising >>> gear, and >> no one believes > that they equalize all boats. If that's >>> what you are >> after switch to a > strict one design class and get out >>> of PHRF.???
>>>???
>>> For what it's worth, I believe that folding props are faster than > >> >>> feathering ones, and if you really want to race successfully you will do >>> >> > better with a small two-bladed folder that folds into a really >>> compact >> and > streamlined package (e.g. the nicer Martec) than with >>> any other >> prop. On > the other hand, if you are really that serious >>> about racing >> then the 320 > isn't a very good choice of boat in the >>> first place. I >> love to cruise my > 320 and I love to race. But I race >>> boats that are >> designed for speed, not > cruising comfort.???
>>>???
>>> Scott???
>>>???
>>> chris denny wrote:???
>>>> If it is generally accepted that a folder is that much of a benefit, >>>> why >>> >> is the allowance for a fixed prop not greater? I thought the >>>> idea was >>> to >> make things "equal". Is 6 seconds the "standard >>>> addition" for a >>> fixed >> prop????
>>>> cd #328???
>>>> Peter Clancy wrote:???
>>>>???
>>>>> Casual racers may underestimate the value of relatively small speed >>>>> >>> >>>> improvements.???
>>>>>???
>>>>> For example, assume a course is 15 nautical miles long. If you have a >>>>> >>>> >>> modest 1/2 knot per mile speed advantage (with a folding >>>>> prop) over >>>> an >>> identical boat with a fixed prop and you >>>>> average 6.5 knots, by >>>> the time >>> you reach the finish you'll be >>>>> at least 10 minutes ahead >>>> of the slower >>> boat. If that boat >>>>> has a 6 second per mile rating >>>> advantage due to a >>> fixed prop, >>>>> he only gains 90 seconds or 1.5 >>>> minutes when corrected. >>> >>>>> Generally speaking, the lighter the air, >>>> the greater the benefit >>>>> of a >>> folding prop. We raced 'AROBAN' >>>> successfully for several >>>>> years with a >>> Gori two-blade folder and >>>> took first in class in >>>>> last October's Columbus >>> Day Regatta which is >>>> South Florida's >>>>> largest annual sailboat race.???
>>>>> The C320 is a capable racer especially when tweaked and sailed for >>> >>>>> >>>> optimum speed.???
>>>>>???
>>>>> Peter Clancy???
>>>>> 'AROBAN' #222 (former owner)???
>>>>> Miami, FL???
>>>>>???
>>>>>???
>>>>>???
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>>>>>???
>>>>>???
>>>>> ----- Origi nal Message ----- From: Joe >>> >>>> >>>>> Barrett<mailto:joe at dolphinmortgage.com> To: >>> >>>> >>>>> 'C320-List'<mailto:c320-list at catalina320.com> Sent: Tuesday, August >>>>> 21, >>>> >>> 2007 9:19 AM???
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320???
>>>>>???
>>>>>???
>>>>> If going from a fixed to a feathering/folding prop gains you 1/2-3/4 >>>>> >>>> >>> knot of???
>>>>> speed do the math. The 6 seconds you loose makes getting a???
>>>>> feathering/folding prop a no brainer.???
>>>>> Joe Barrett???
>>>>>???
>>>>> -----Original Message-----???
>>>>> From: >>> >>>> >>>>> c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com<mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com>???
>>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of chris denny???
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:05 AM???
>>>>> To: C320-List???
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320???
>>>>>???
>>>>> If a folder is that much help, why does having a fixed prop get you >>>>> >>> >>>> just 6???
>>>>> seconds on your adjusted PHRF????
>>>>> CD #328???
>>>>>???
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