[C320-list] Frustrated with the Dutchman system
Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Thu Feb 22 08:37:56 PST 2007
Use McLube..they have a mast lubricating kit you can buy...
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Wes:
What do you use to lubricate your track?
Ken Danko
#802, Grace
>From: Wes.Giles at averydennison.com
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>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Frustrated with the Dutchman system
>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:42:56 -0800
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>OK. time for my $.02 worth on this. I remember vividly trying to lower a
>sail and flaking it without the Dutchman system. It wasn't a lot of fun.
>I've never used any other system. I agree with Bill, when it is set up
>correctly and the sail track is lubed the sail drops like a guillotine
and
>is flaked correctly. Do you have to ensure that everything is positioned
>correctly? Absolutely.
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>All that said, you like what you like, and you don't like what you don't
>like.
>
>Nuff said, I'm goin' sailing.
>
>Wes
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>Bill:
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>You have a good point but the thing that separates the Dutchman from an
>engine alignment is that the Dutchman is designed to save time. It is
>optional, not required. My point is that a system designed to save time
>must
>do so otherwise it is flawed. So far it has not saved me time but I am
>willing to invest more effort to try to get it right with the hope that
it
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>will save me time in the long run.
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>Ken
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> >From: Bill Culbertson <billculb_a2 at yahoo.com>
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> >To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.org>
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Frustrated with the Dutchman system
> >Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:32:24 -0800 (PST)
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> >FWIW, my view is that just because a system takes a long time to learn
to
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> >use correctly doesn't mean to me that it is an inferior system. Or
just
> >because a system takes a significant effort to adjust correctly doesn't
> >mean it is flawed. Take engine alignment for example. Takes a long
time
>
> >to get it right. Is something wrong because of that, no.
> >
> >All systems have trade offs. If my choice were between something which
> >took a good long while to get initially set up or to learn but worked
>like
> >a champ each and every time I needed after I'd spent that effort, I'd
>pick
> >that system over one which was easy to set up and had problems each
time
>I
> >used it. But others could easily see the same trade offs and make the
> >different choice. That's fine with me - their choice. I kept my
> >traditional packing gland and use GFO packing with great success.
Others
>
> >have said, "forget that nonsense" and switched to the PSI dripless
shaft
> >seal. Both seem like fine approaches to me.
> >
> > -bill culbertson
> > Harmony #859
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> >----- Original Message ----
> >From: K L <sfca33 at hotmail.com>
> >To: c320-list at catalina320.org
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:17:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Frustrated with the Dutchman system
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> >It has been interesting to read the varied opinions on the Dutchman.
>People
> >seem to love it or hate it.
> >
> >Darrell said that a switch to a swivel block made it worse (or at least
>not
> >better) while Warren reports that the swivel block solved the problem.
>I’m
> >going to swap the block I have for a swivel block and give that a try.
> >
> >Lots of people said that they scrapped the system or are about to while
> >Jeff
> >said that after a year he figured out how to use it efficiently.
Someone
> >else suggested a video.
> >
> >What is clear to me is that a hell of a lot of man hours have been
spent
>in
> >trying to get the system to work the way it should. If a system takes a
> >year
> >to figure out and/or requires special training with a video, then I
>wonder
> >if it's a good system. It seems to me that it should be easier.
> >
> >One can’t help but wonder if all those man hours spend trying to get
>the
> >Dutchman to work is more or fewer than the hours that would have been
>spent
> >flaking the sail with lazy jacks.
> >
> >I have had both systems. For me, the total time working with the sail
>seems
> >to be about the same. But the difference is that with the Dutchman the
>time
> >is spent in frustration.
> >
> >Ken Danko
> >#802, Grace
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