[C320-list] mysterious full bilge

Scott Thompson sthompson at toad.net
Sat Jan 6 06:17:44 PST 2007


70 degrees here on the Chesapeake today.  Amazing.

Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com wrote:
> I've seen the weather reports recently, there's no need for you Nor'
> Easterners to winterize this year! :)
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> OD
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> Oh, forgot to say It's perfectly fine to use either the manual or electric
> bilge pumps while on land.  Just might want to raise up the starboard aft
> corner of your cover a bit to keep from pumping water onto the canvas
> cover.
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> As my last act of winterizing, after flushing out the bilges with a garden
> hose, is to pour my left over antifreeze in the bilge and run a bit
> through
> each pump.  I also pump a gallon through the head.  Really makes the head
> pump nicely in the spring.
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> -Jeff
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Rasco [mailto:Moondancer5 at comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:19 PM
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] mysterious full bilge
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> Hi, I was wondering if anyone might have an idea what's going on here.
> 
> I would have liked to do the winterizing of our new 320 ourselves so we'd
> learn the procedures (first cruising boat), but with our schedules and the
> marina's, we couldn't do it and let them handle it.
> They hauled it mid-October and we looked over the boat a couple of times
> in
> October and November. The new canvas winter cover was put on by the maker
> in
> early November, and when checking over the boat that time we noticed a bit
> of dampness on the door to the forward berth and the pillows in spite a
> couple of containers of calcium chloride in the galley sink and head sink
> (everything is tipped up and has air circulation underneath). Due to the
> holidays and stomach viruses (oy), we didn't get back to check on things
> till yesterday. When my husband checked the bilge there was water up to
> the
> floor boards.
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> We borrowed a hand pump from the marina owner, who (strangely, Frank
> thought) didn't seem surprised there was a lot of water in the bilge.
> (Aside: is it okay to use the manual built-in pump when the boat's on the
> hard?) Frank emptied about 9 galley pails of grayish water, we're figuring
> about 20-25 gallons. The water was a little sudsy-looking after being
> pumped, can't tell if that was due to the borrowed hand pump and whatever
> it
> was used on last. I called our salesman and asked if he had any ideas on
> where so much water could come from. He was baffled and asked if the hot
> water heater had been emptied. Well, we hadn't, and the marina owner was
> gone, and we checked all around the boat for signs of leakage. The only
> dampness other than a little again by the forward berth's door (I've added
> a
> couple more of the moisture tubs) we only found was that the anchor locker
> was wet, and the rode was soaked. The drain was not clogged, and there was
> a
> bit of water in the hull fitting. The only part of the boat that the cover
> doesn't cover is the anchor and roller, and even if any rain got in that
> way, I can't see where it would enter the boat, the hatches are all snugly
> closed and I don't see any evidence of leaks or cracks anywhere.
> 
> I'll mention here that the boat is in NJ, it's been warm with some good
> rain
> here and there the past month, and that although we thought we'd shut all
> the interior lights off last time we did find a light switched on over the
> fridge when we plugged in the power. Does it seem likely to more
> experienced
> owners that the marina personnel emptied the hot water heater 'after'
> winterizing, or is it possible that that much water could have seeped in
> somewhere from a rain in about 6 weeks time? I don't like to be suspicious
> of the marina but I do tend to feel insecure being a new boat owner, not
> experienced with the engine/plumbing/electrical systems yet (Frank too),
> and
> tending to occasionally get flip answers from the owner, (one of whose
> assistants already broke and will replace the pop-out hatch latch in the
> rear cabin, by the floor in back of the head sink while doing the
> winterizing). And yes, okay, being a, what's that evil word ...
> woman  ; )
> 
> I have to say I wish that Catalina would do a dvd of rigging and systems
> maintenance. It would be a lot easier to watch someone go through it a few
> times on video, regardless of the manual. I do know that we'll do it
> ourselves next fall, even if I have to kidnap a dealer person for the day
> to
> lead us through it.
> 
> Thanks for plowing through my endless email....
> 
> Susan
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