[C320-list] C320-List Digest, Vol 233, Issue 1

[Irv Grunes]

Bruce,
Not sure what you are calling the strings in your item 5).  Do you mean the
mainsheet lines??

We do the same up to 5).
But we found that its its important to have the boat directly into the wind
so that the boom switches side to side as being in irons.

Then one of us goes forward to the mast.
The cockpit person releases the main halyard and the forward person gets it
on the mast cleat to control dropping the main.
With that control, the mast person drops the main, doing two things.
Makes sure that the luff end of the sail alternates as its dropped, making
sure that the first alternate is on the same side as the first flake is
supposed to go AND
Makes sure the first two or three flake folds on the boom are setting
correctly.
If not we get them to set properly by pulling on the leech.
Then we get a sail tie on the first three folds.
Once done, the rest of the folds are controlled to come down slowly still
controlling the halyard speed using the mast cleat.  Its easy to stop the
drop and reraise the sail if the flake is not nice at any point.
The mast cleat does all the work.

By taking a few round turns on the cleat one can stop the halyard, leave the
mast and help make the folds fall correctly, make the first tie with the
sail still up 2/3 to 1/2 still up.

Drop the second third, Tie and finish the drop, tie and undo the halyard
shackle

We tie off the halyard on the cabin top hand rail by slipping the shackle
under the rail and . clipping it off to itself.  We tried clipping it to the
stanchion base, the lifelines and to the foot of the shroud, but the hand
rail works best for us.
Back in the cockpit, close the halyard rope clutch, and pull the halyard
tight and its done.

Our problem was always getting the first three folds to lie properly. Once
they were straightened and tied, the rest of the sail pretty much flaked
correctly as it was dropped.

We never single hand and so it would be a lucky drop to just let the sail go
and hope it flakes nicely.

Irv Grunes
Isle of White #851
Sue Creek, Chesapeake


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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Heyman
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We've been struggling to get out Dutchman to work as well on the 320 as it
did on the Sabre 30.  I have not been able to figure out what the difference
is but on the Sabre it often flaked perfectly and only need you to put the
halyard away and put on three sail ties.

What we are doing now:
 	1) Make sure the outhaul is fairly tight(our main is loose footed
and you need the foot tension to keep the sail on the boom
	2) Release the boomvang, sheet (both sides) and traveler car
	3) Tighten the toping lift
	4) Adjust the location of the black boxes (I'm sure there is a
better technical name for these...) so that the monofilament lines run
straight up and down.  We have a ring of electrical tape on the line to mark
the right spot for the jam cleat.
	5) With all the strings loose the boat does not have to be into the
wind but you have to make sure that the sail and boom are directly into the
wind.
	6) Flake the line out on the cockpit seat to minimize friction and
jam's
	7) Release the break and hope it comes down fast as that seems to
leave it the sail the neatest.
	8) Pull on the leach of the sail to get it lay better on the boom.
	9) Add three sail ties and put away the halyard.
	10) Tighten all the down strings, release the toping lift and adjust
the black boxes on the topping lift so that there is no tension on the
monofilament.


As I was typing this out it suddenly occurred to me why it takes so long to
put this sail away.  It is time to put a furling main on the wish list.

If anyone has improvements that eliminate steps or make it easier we sure
would like to hear about them.

Bruce
Somerset 671 SoCal



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RE:  Dutchman vs Lazy Jack

We have Hull # 890 and are not happy with the performance of our  Dutchman.

Even though we have adjusted it several times  it does not  fold properly.
Also for safety purposes I would like to not have to go  forward to fasten
the
sail ties.  Any suggestions appreciated.

S/V Haley Marie
Chesapeake Bay