[C320-list] Target Coating
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I have used water-based, brush-on to match interior of Hull #322 with a perfect match, smooth finish and great appearance. Need to do one section at a time and/or stop at a corner or natural break point.
Phil Hansen
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1. Re: FW: Battery charger/inverter (Jeffrey Hare)
2. Re: FW: Battery charger/inverter (Darrell)
3. Water Heater Anode (Dave Anderer)
4. Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide (Jeffrey Hare)
5. Re: Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide (Joe Barrett)
6. Re: Battery charger/inverter (STINKIN GRINGO)
7. Re: Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide (Jeff Church)
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10. Re: Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide (Rod Boer)
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13. Re: Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide (Jeffrey Hare)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:11:20 -0500
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <Catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Battery charger/inverter
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Hi Bob,
You'd only need to do this for the Positive cable. If you jumpered the 2
4Ds as you suggest, you could still leave the extra positive cable in place
and it would do no harm. Much better than removing it and taping it off.
The negative battery termials are already directly jumpered to each other.
In fact, after adding a starting battery, you'd also add a jumper from the
forward most 4D's negative terminal to the new starting battery's negative
terminal. Ie: all Negative battery terminals must be connected to each
other to form a common ground.
-JeffH
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Seastream [mailto:robert.seastream at comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:57 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Battery charger/inverter
One easy way to parallel batteries follows:
First make sure the main switch is OFF.
Then, simply remove the cables from one of the batteries (say, battery two);
and tape those cable ends, for safety.
Next, run new cables (make or buy them) between the batteries; positive to
positive, and negative to negative.
The result is you'll have both batteries on position one of the main switch;
position two now does nothing.
Later, if you wish you can attach the cables you disconnected from battery
two to a starting battery, if they'll reach wherever you locate the starting
battery.
If they don't reach, you'll have to replace them with longer cables.
On my boat (2002) both batteries are under the main cabin starboard bunk.
It looks like I could squeeze a starting battery in front of the forward (I
think it's battery two) battery, if I chose to employ the above practice
although I've not done so yet. I'm on a mooring, so I'm sensitive to
battery consumption. My current practice is to leave the main switch on
ALL, with an 18 watt solar panel attached to the forward battery for
maintenance charging during the week and carry a 'start pack' onboard should
I drain the bank below starting requirements while I'm on her.
Bob Seastream
'Intuition', Hull 906
On Mar 5, 2007, at 2:27 PM, <bruceheyman at cox.net> wrote:
> Darell,
> How do you have the batteries paralleled? Through a switch?
> Bruce
> Somerset 671 SoCal
> ---- Darrell <dgray at n-sea.org> wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> My 4D's have been paralleled as a house bank for a couple years now
>> and I have a good 3 stage charger. When I check the fluid level in
>> the batteries about every 2 months, I find three cells on one battery
>> lower than the rest ( never dangerously low) Both batteries were
>> replaced at the same time. The battery that is a little lower is the
>> one wired to the charger. Could that be the reason it looses more
>> fluid?
>>
>> Darrell
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeffrey Hare" <Catalina at thehares.com>
>> To: <kmielen at iwon.com>; "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Battery charger/inverter
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm entering my 6th season on my 4Ds. They're still ok, but I
>>> haven't decided what I'll replace them with next year. It helps
>>> their life substantially having them in parallel however.
>>>
>>> Consider 6v golf batteries only if you're going to be nearly
>>> religious about equalizing them every year, and keeping all the
>>> extra connections clean.
>>> If
>>> you don't, you'll be hard pressed to match the power output of a
>>> pair of conventional parallelled 4Ds given that you'll have nearly
>>> double the
>>> electrical connection losses. :) It does help reduce the
>>> equalization
>>> requirements if you keep them on shore power charger and fully
>>> charged for long periods of time.
>>>
>>> -J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Karl Mielenhausen _/) [mailto:kmielen at iwon.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:43 AM
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Subject: [C320-list] FW: Battery charger/inverter
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bert was right on with his recommendation for a 40 amp charger...
>>> you want
>>> 10% of your battery bank capacity in Amp-Hrs.
>>>
>>> Here is something else to think about...Before you replace your
>>> marine, lead/acid 4Ds (which a really a hybrid starting/deep cycle
>>> battery, at approx 205 AH), consider switching to golf car batteries
>>> (220 AH).
>>> Others
>>> have suggested going to AGM's but I found that a tad pricy.
>>>
>>> Here is a link to some reference material...
>>>
>>> http://www.yachtsurvey.com/boat_battery_basics.htm
>>>
>>> A true (lead/acid) deep cycle battery can tolerate being discharged
>>> 80% whereas the hybrid (lead/acid) batteries should only be
>>> discharged 50%.
>>> You
>>> must be doing something right, however, having gotten 6 years of
>>> life on your last pair!!
>>>
>>> Also, four golf car batteries are also easier to handle than the 2
>>> 4D's.
>>> Of
>>> course, you may want to add a starting battery. This will give you
>>> the added confidence to run the house bank way down and still be
>>> able to start the engine.
>>>
>>> There are several of these conversions photographed on the C320IA
>>> website...
>>>
>>> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/view_album.php?
>>> set_albumName=StartingBatt
>>> Shelf
>>>
>>> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/view_album.php?
>>> set_albumName=album86
>>>
>>> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=6-
>>> Volt-Batte
>>> ries-and-Solar-Panel
>>>
>>> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/view_album.php?
>>> set_albumName=album31
>>>
>>> Good luck and keep us informed of your progress.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Karl Mielenhausen
>>>
>>> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>>>
>>> New Bern, NC
>>>
>>> http://pages.suddenlink.net/kmielen/
>>>
>>> From: PDCatalina320 at aol.com [mailto: PDCatalina320 at aol.com]
>>>
>>> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 01:58:55 EST
>>>
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Battery charger/inverter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am about to replace my 2 4D's since they are now 6 years old. I
>>> hear it is also a good time to replace the 25 amp flyback charger.
>>> A inverter/charger like the xantrex Freedom 10 sounds nice but will
>>> my
>>> 4 awg
>>> wires to the batteries take the 50 amps charging that the freedom
>>> puts out? I don't want to pull larger wires. Or is it better to
>>> just get the
>>> xantrex truecharge 20 and do the inverter seperate. Any info will
>>> help.
>>> Thanks Paul, 850
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>>
>>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:12:53 -0800
From: "Darrell" <dgray at n-sea.org>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Battery charger/inverter
To: <catalina at thehares.com>, "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Thanks Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <Catalina at thehares.com>
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Battery charger/inverter
> Darrell,
>
> This is probably due to differences in equalization between the cells.
> The ones with less water probably run slightly hotter than the others. If
> you have a charger with an equalization mode, you might be able to fix
> that
> somewhat. Just keep water above the plates at all times and you'll be ok.
> If the plates get exposed even for a short time, the exposed parts will
> probably be damaged permanently.
>
> For reference, I have a similar situation. My forward battery, forward
> most
> set of cells is always lower than the rest. My shore charger doesn't have
> an equalization mode.
>
> -J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darrell [mailto:dgray at n-sea.org]
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:23 PM
> To: catalina at thehares.com; C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Battery charger/inverter
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> My 4D's have been paralleled as a house bank for a couple years now and I
> have a good 3 stage charger. When I check the fluid level in the batteries
> about every 2 months, I find three cells on one battery lower than the
> rest
> ( never dangerously low) Both batteries were replaced at the same time.
> The
> battery that is a little lower is the one wired to the charger. Could that
> be the reason it looses more fluid?
>
> Darrell
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeffrey Hare" <Catalina at thehares.com>
> To: <kmielen at iwon.com>; "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Battery charger/inverter
>
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm entering my 6th season on my 4Ds. They're still ok, but I haven't
>> decided what I'll replace them with next year. It helps their life
>> substantially having them in parallel however.
>>
>> Consider 6v golf batteries only if you're going to be nearly religious
>> about
>> equalizing them every year, and keeping all the extra connections clean.
>> If
>> you don't, you'll be hard pressed to match the power output of a pair of
>> conventional parallelled 4Ds given that you'll have nearly double the
>> electrical connection losses. :) It does help reduce the equalization
>> requirements if you keep them on shore power charger and fully charged
>> for
>> long periods of time.
>>
>> -J
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Karl Mielenhausen _/) [mailto:kmielen at iwon.com]
>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:43 AM
>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] FW: Battery charger/inverter
>>
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>>
>>
>> Bert was right on with his recommendation for a 40 amp charger... you
>> want
>> 10% of your battery bank capacity in Amp-Hrs.
>>
>> Here is something else to think about...Before you replace your marine,
>> lead/acid 4Ds (which a really a hybrid starting/deep cycle battery, at
>> approx 205 AH), consider switching to golf car batteries (220 AH). Others
>> have suggested going to AGM's but I found that a tad pricy.
>>
>> Here is a link to some reference material...
>>
>> http://www.yachtsurvey.com/boat_battery_basics.htm
>>
>> A true (lead/acid) deep cycle battery can tolerate being discharged 80%
>> whereas the hybrid (lead/acid) batteries should only be discharged 50%.
>> You
>> must be doing something right, however, having gotten 6 years of life on
>> your last pair!!
>>
>> Also, four golf car batteries are also easier to handle than the 2 4D's.
>> Of
>> course, you may want to add a starting battery. This will give you the
>> added
>> confidence to run the house bank way down and still be able to start the
>> engine.
>>
>> There are several of these conversions photographed on the C320IA
>> website...
>>
>>
> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=StartingBatt
>> Shelf
>>
>> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album86
>>
>>
> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=6-Volt-Batte
>> ries-and-Solar-Panel
>>
>> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album31
>>
>> Good luck and keep us informed of your progress.
>>
>>
>>
>> Karl Mielenhausen
>>
>> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>>
>> New Bern, NC
>>
>> http://pages.suddenlink.net/kmielen/
>>
>> From: PDCatalina320 at aol.com [mailto: PDCatalina320 at aol.com]
>>
>> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
>>
>> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 01:58:55 EST
>>
>> Subject: [C320-list] Battery charger/inverter
>>
>>
>>
>> I am about to replace my 2 4D's since they are now 6 years old. I hear it
>> is also a good time to replace the 25 amp flyback charger. A
>> inverter/charger like the xantrex Freedom 10 sounds nice but will my 4
>> awg
>> wires to the batteries take the 50 amps charging that the freedom puts
>> out? I don't want to pull larger wires. Or is it better to just get the
>> xantrex truecharge 20 and do the inverter seperate. Any info will
>> help.
>> Thanks Paul, 850
>> Sobrante<BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now
>> offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL
>> at
>> http://www.aol.com.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:15:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Dave Anderer <danderer at UDel.Edu>
Subject: [C320-list] Water Heater Anode
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
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Does the water heater have an anode? Has anyone bothered to change it?
Thanks.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:17:30 -0500
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <Catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Hello,
I know this may be *slightly* off topic, but a woodworker named Jerry
Work has written a fantastic article about using Target Coatings finishes.
These are the materials used by Catalina on the interior woodwork of our
boats. Anyone planning to do woodwork upgrades inside, might be interested
in this article.
http://www.targetcoatings.com/Images/PDF/TargetCoatingsManualR.pdf
I found it very helpful anyway.
Cheers,
-JeffH
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:23:45 -0500
From: "Joe Barrett" <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
To: <catalina at thehares.com>, "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Thanks Jeff, I think these may be great for spray applications in a Factory
but leave a lot to be desired for touch up refinishing. Has anyone
refinished their main cabin with another type of brush on Varnish? Can it be
applied right over the existing Target finish? My main cabin around the
companionway needs refinishing because of salt water sea spray.
Any ideas other than the Target coating?
Joe Barrett
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:18 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
Hello,
I know this may be *slightly* off topic, but a woodworker named Jerry
Work has written a fantastic article about using Target Coatings finishes.
These are the materials used by Catalina on the interior woodwork of our
boats. Anyone planning to do woodwork upgrades inside, might be interested
in this article.
http://www.targetcoatings.com/Images/PDF/TargetCoatingsManualR.pdf
I found it very helpful anyway.
Cheers,
-JeffH
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:38:01 -0500
From: bousum at webtv.net (STINKIN GRINGO)
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery charger/inverter
To: c320-list at catalina320.com (C320-List)
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When changing to a higher amp output charger don't forget to change the
slow burn fuse to match the output of the charger.If your batteries go
dead and your new charger puts out 40 amps the old 20 amp fuses will
blow . Ken #711
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:25:17 -0600
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
To: <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>, "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Joe,
I've used Varathane's water based varnish to touch up door/drawer frames,
fiddles and hand holds. It flows nicely and matches very well.
JeffC
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Barrett
To: catalina at thehares.com ; 'C320-List'
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
Thanks Jeff, I think these may be great for spray applications in a Factory
but leave a lot to be desired for touch up refinishing. Has anyone
refinished their main cabin with another type of brush on Varnish? Can it be
applied right over the existing Target finish? My main cabin around the
companionway needs refinishing because of salt water sea spray.
Any ideas other than the Target coating?
Joe Barrett
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:18 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
Hello,
I know this may be *slightly* off topic, but a woodworker named Jerry
Work has written a fantastic article about using Target Coatings finishes.
These are the materials used by Catalina on the interior woodwork of our
boats. Anyone planning to do woodwork upgrades inside, might be interested
in this article.
http://www.targetcoatings.com/Images/PDF/TargetCoatingsManualR.pdf
I found it very helpful anyway.
Cheers,
-JeffH
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:39:32 -0500
From: "Dave Moores" <dmoores at cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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The water-based finishes work very well for touchup. However, nothing comes
close to Epiphanes Rubbed-Finish Varnish for look and durability if you are
refinishing and not just touching-up.
Dave Moores
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: March 5, 2007 6:25 PM
To: joe at dolphinmortgage.com; C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
Joe,
I've used Varathane's water based varnish to touch up door/drawer frames,
fiddles and hand holds. It flows nicely and matches very well.
JeffC
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Barrett
To: catalina at thehares.com ; 'C320-List'
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
Thanks Jeff, I think these may be great for spray applications in a
Factory
but leave a lot to be desired for touch up refinishing. Has anyone
refinished their main cabin with another type of brush on Varnish? Can it
be
applied right over the existing Target finish? My main cabin around the
companionway needs refinishing because of salt water sea spray.
Any ideas other than the Target coating?
Joe Barrett
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:18 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
Hello,
I know this may be *slightly* off topic, but a woodworker named Jerry
Work has written a fantastic article about using Target Coatings finishes.
These are the materials used by Catalina on the interior woodwork of our
boats. Anyone planning to do woodwork upgrades inside, might be
interested
in this article.
http://www.targetcoatings.com/Images/PDF/TargetCoatingsManualR.pdf
I found it very helpful anyway.
Cheers,
-JeffH
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:45:56 -0500
From: amshd2 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water Heater Anode
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The Perkins in my 94 does not have one.
Tony
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Subject: [C320-list] Water Heater Anode
Does the water heater have an anode? Has anyone bothered to change it?
Thanks.
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:00:19 -0500
From: "Rod Boer" <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
To: <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>, "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Hi Joe,
Why do you think target coatings are not good for touch up? I have been
refinishing my cabin sole, which really hadn't worn through the finish
anywhere, but I decided I never wanted to get into stripping it down to the
clear wood. The target coating does a beautiful job, but for a really good
finish you need to use the proper brush to get outstanding results,
especially on a surface like the cabin sole. I used the DiVinci brush which
I purchased from Target. I chose the 2" brush that is only about 3/16"
thick. The thinness is the key to it working so well. My wife and I get
into quite a bit of wood finishing and where I have previously had good
results with foam brushes with polyurethanes, I found they didn't really
work well with the water based product. The brush was $36 plus shipping but
it is a dream to work with. Of course I threatened everyone in the house
with death if they ever touched that brush.
Rod Boer
Odyssey, #688
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From: "Joe Barrett" <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>
To: <catalina at thehares.com>; "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
>
> Thanks Jeff, I think these may be great for spray applications in a
> Factory
> but leave a lot to be desired for touch up refinishing. Has anyone
> refinished their main cabin with another type of brush on Varnish? Can it
> be
> applied right over the existing Target finish? My main cabin around the
> companionway needs refinishing because of salt water sea spray.
> Any ideas other than the Target coating?
> Joe Barrett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:18 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
>
> Hello,
>
> I know this may be *slightly* off topic, but a woodworker named Jerry
> Work has written a fantastic article about using Target Coatings finishes.
> These are the materials used by Catalina on the interior woodwork of our
> boats. Anyone planning to do woodwork upgrades inside, might be
> interested
> in this article.
>
> http://www.targetcoatings.com/Images/PDF/TargetCoatingsManualR.pdf
>
> I found it very helpful anyway.
>
> Cheers,
> -JeffH
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:01:31 -0500
From: jpmesa at aol.com
Subject: [C320-list] Catalina 320 2006 Regatta
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
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I have up loaded 3 short videos onto youtube.com. Youtube will only let you
upload very low-res versions, but I still think they are kinda fun. Also,
included in the Regatta Video are some still shot by Bruce Heyman & a couple
from the 320 website. The three parts are: 320 Regatta 2006, 320 Awards_ pt1 &
320 Awards_pt2 Orlando?s farewell. Aloha, John & Bobbi Holokai 2 Here are the
links: If the links don?t work try coping & pasting or go to youtube.com and do
a search under sports for Catalina 320 Regatta or 320 regatta should work? It
might not work until tomorrow!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irhh5Nb1kgI
Regatta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F84siUgeDRI Awards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vITeNWKCwNo Orlando
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:05:56 -0500
From: "Rod Boer" <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
To: <catalina at thehares.com>, "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Thanks Jeff, this article will be a big help as Lee and I are converting to
water based finishes for all of our wood working projects.
Rod
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <Catalina at thehares.com>
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
> Hello,
>
> I know this may be *slightly* off topic, but a woodworker named Jerry
> Work has written a fantastic article about using Target Coatings finishes.
> These are the materials used by Catalina on the interior woodwork of our
> boats. Anyone planning to do woodwork upgrades inside, might be
> interested
> in this article.
>
> http://www.targetcoatings.com/Images/PDF/TargetCoatingsManualR.pdf
>
> I found it very helpful anyway.
>
> Cheers,
> -JeffH
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:40:27 -0500
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <Catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Check out Target's EM8000 product discussed on page 13-14 of the PDF. It's
essentially a 2-part pre-catalyzed varnish that's extremely hard and
chemical resistant. Probably has about the same UV resistance as Epiphanes
exterior products, but harder given that it's a cross-linked product, rather
than just a one-part varnish. It's more expensive than epiphanes, but a
superior product if you're refinishing inside woodwork and want a
beautifully matched quality finish.
If you do use Epiphanes (and I'm not discouraging it), be sure you thin it
properly because it's really too thick to use right out of the can if you're
looking for a professional quality finish. I noticed that the first brush
stroke I tried on a test board.
In either case, be sure to use the exact kind of brushes they call for. It
matters alot. Use the wrong brush and you might as well be using Ace
Hardware spray on lacquer.
I used 4 coats of Epiphanes Rubbed Finish varnish on my new starboard-side
electrical panel, (photos in the gallery) It's pretty but doesn't match the
rest of the woodwork very well in my opinion, because the gloss level is
different. If I had it to do over, I'd use the Target products with a
quality brush instead. But that's my subjective opinion there. I'm
probably the only one who notices it doesn't match. :)
-Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Moores [mailto:dmoores at cogeco.ca]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:40 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
The water-based finishes work very well for touchup. However, nothing comes
close to Epiphanes Rubbed-Finish Varnish for look and durability if you are
refinishing and not just touching-up.
Dave Moores
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: March 5, 2007 6:25 PM
To: joe at dolphinmortgage.com; C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
Joe,
I've used Varathane's water based varnish to touch up door/drawer frames,
fiddles and hand holds. It flows nicely and matches very well.
JeffC
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Barrett
To: catalina at thehares.com ; 'C320-List'
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
Thanks Jeff, I think these may be great for spray applications in a
Factory
but leave a lot to be desired for touch up refinishing. Has anyone
refinished their main cabin with another type of brush on Varnish? Can it
be
applied right over the existing Target finish? My main cabin around the
companionway needs refinishing because of salt water sea spray.
Any ideas other than the Target coating?
Joe Barrett
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:18 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Target Coatings / Woodworking Guide
Hello,
I know this may be *slightly* off topic, but a woodworker named Jerry
Work has written a fantastic article about using Target Coatings finishes.
These are the materials used by Catalina on the interior woodwork of our
boats. Anyone planning to do woodwork upgrades inside, might be
interested
in this article.
http://www.targetcoatings.com/Images/PDF/TargetCoatingsManualR.pdf
I found it very helpful anyway.
Cheers,
-JeffH
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