[C320-list] Neutral or Reverse

Karl Krueger smoothsail282 at sbcglobal.net
Sun Mar 25 16:20:47 PDT 2007


Hello Everyone:
   
  BE CAREFUL and CHECK YOUR MANUFACTURES MANUAL.
   
  I have a Westerbeke engine & a JS Transmission.  The manual for the tranmission states, "neutral while sailing alleviates unnecessary drag on the vessel.....".  "However, if the transmission is left in its FORWARD gear while sailing the transmission will not be damaged."  The point is, nowhere in THIS MANUAL do they mention leaving the transmission in reverse.
   
  Karl Krueger (Kindred Spirit, #282)

oldman1030 at hotmail.com wrote:
  This is the behavior I get as well. I have to start the engine with it in 
reverse and then I can move it into neutral.

----- Original Message -----
From: "harold brown" 
To: "C320-List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Neutral or Reverse

> On several occasions when I have sailed with the
> transmission in reverse I have had a very hard time
> moving the gear lever into neutral when going to start
> the engine. The transmission seemed to be "stuck" in
> reverse. When I started the engine in reverse I could
> immediatley move the lever into neutral or forward. It
> felt like there was some torque built up in the
> transmission while saililng with the transmission in
> reverse. Is this common? I have since sailed in
> neutral fearing the thing would get "stuck" in gear.
> Jim Brown "Desafinado"
> --- Delia Mace wrote:
>
>> If the prop shaft is turning because the gearbox is
>> in neutral, then the
>> bearings at the skeg (cutlass bearing) and gearbox,
>> and the water seal at
>> the gearbox (it's got a name), are wearing and there
>> will be water dripping
>> into the bilge through that bearing. I understood
>> that is the reason for
>> putting the gearbox into gear when sailing. Is
>> there any accuracy in my
>> understanding?
>>
>> Owen Mace
>> Baloo #72
>> Adelaide, Ausralia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of Len
>> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:00 AM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Neutral or Reverse
>>
>> Try it in reverse and listen.
>>
>> Len
>> Aqua5 #1070
>>
>> On 3/24/07, Quentin Murphy 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Whether I leave the transmission in Neutral or in
>> gear, I still hear a
>> > turning sound below. At first, I had it in
>> Neutral, but upon hearing this
>> > whirring noise I decided to put it in gear to
>> avoid wear. But it still
>> > makes a whirring sound. That does not make sense
>> as one would think
>> > putting
>> > it in gear would lock the shaft into position. I
>> would be surprised if
>> > the
>> > motion through the water would have enough force
>> to turn the prop and thus
>> > the engine. With the transmission in gear: the
>> prop, thus shaft is locked
>> > to the engine. As far as I know there is no other
>> "disconnect means" such
>> > as a centrifugal clutch. So with the transmission
>> in gear, what's turning
>> > to make this whirring noise?
>> >
>> > Quentin Murphy
>> > Celtic Knot #667
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com]On
>> Behalf Of
>> > alahlm at comcast.net
>> > Sent: March 24, 2007 3:40 PM
>> > To: C320-List
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Neutral or Reverse
>> >
>> >
>> > Dick
>> > what's going to wear out? when it's in neutral
>> none of the gears are
>> > engaged, other than the main shaft rotating
>> nothing else should be moving.
>> > I've always left mine in neutral an in nine years
>> haven't had any problems
>> > yet.
>> >
>> > Al Ahlman
>> > #476
>> >
>> > -------------- Original message --------------
>> > From: "Richard A. Walker" 
>> >
>> > > Wear on the transmission.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Dick and Jauhree Walker
>> > > 740 Olive Ave.
>> > > Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> > > 619.435.8986
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>> > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On
>> Behalf Of Robert Seastream
>> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:50 PM
>> > > To: C320-List
>> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Neutral or Reverse
>> > >
>> > > Why not neutral?
>> > >
>> > > Bob Seastream
>> > > 'Intuition' hull 906
>> > >
>> > > On Mar 23, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Richard A. Walker
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Complex Answer.
>> > > >
>> > > > If you have an AUTOPROP - Forward so it will
>> feather.
>> > > >
>> > > > Yanmar 3GM - reverse to cut down on the wear
>> of the transmission.
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers,
>> > > >
>> > > > Dick Walker
>> > > > C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> > > > 740 Olive Ave.
>> > > > Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> > > > 619.435.8986
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>> > > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On
>> Behalf Of brucestanley
>> > > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:07 PM
>> > > > To: C320-List
>> > > > Subject: [C320-list] Neutral or Reverse
>> > > >
>> > > > depends on your Gear Box
>> > > > Check your Mechanic
>> > > > or, better still
>> > > > Buy a Feathering/Folding Prop
>> > > > FWIW I have a Kiwi Feather Prop ($US1250)
>> > > >
>> > > > Bruce Stanley
>> > > > C320 #1084
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "mike hunter"
>> > > > Subject: [C320-list] Neutral or Reverse
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >> Is it better to sail with the transmission in
>> neutral or reverse?
>> > > >> I've
>> > > >> had people tell me both???
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Thanks!
>> > > >> Mike
>> > > >> #637
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