[C320-list] packing gland & listing to port

Mon Oct 22 12:26:49 PDT 2007

I usually apply  slightly thinned out  paint, and I'm sure to rotate it 
after i paint it so I'm sure its ok. Once the paint dries I test it again. 
Give it a good spin to be sure it spins freely. It has always worked after 
splashing the boat.

Kirk
#124
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Burti" <clburti at gmail.com>
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port

> How do yo keep the paint from gumming up the paddlewheel?
>
> On 10/20/07, Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net> wrote:
>> I paint my speed transducer with bottom paint, and never pull it when the
>> boat is in the water. I just clean it and paint it on the annual haulout.
>> Before I started doing that I got barnacles in a month or so.
>>
>> Kirk
>> #124
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Burti
>> Sent: 20 October 2007 10:26
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port
>>
>> Won't work around here after being left in after just a few weeks.
>>
>> On 10/20/07, Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net> wrote:
>> > "pull my speed transducer after
>> > each sail to avoid barnacles."
>> >
>> > Simple, clean it annually  haulout!  Spend more time sailing and less
>> > time dithering.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> > Intuition # 906
>> > On Oct 20, 2007, at 9:11 AM, Chris Burti wrote:
>> >
>> > > Yes... I really am considering adding ballast. It just kills me that 
>> > > I
>> > > can't point the same on both tacks. As we haven't loaded Commitment
>> > > down with junk, she shows a couple inches of bottom paint below the
>> > > design waterline and I can afford the weight if I stick it midships.
>> > >
>> > > But, I am intrigued by Jeff's assertion that the mast is not centered
>> > > if the shrouds are equal in length. Since most mastheads are
>> > > symmetrical this is how you plumb the mast after verifying that the
>> > > base is centered. Now, if the base of a deck stepped mast is not
>> > > centered (something you should check because, surprisingly, it 
>> > > appears
>> > > to occur often enough) then you do have to make an adjustment as Jeff
>> > > suggested, I have measured the base and it is centered, I have 
>> > > plumbed
>> > > my mast in the traditional way and I still have a list. Now, if there
>> > > is something funky about the masthead...inquiring minds want to know.
>> > >
>> > > Oh, add me to the GFX packing group also...three years and loving it.
>> > >
>> > > Got a couple of comments on the mechanical dripless seal concept...I
>> > > know it is debating religion, but it is Saturday and I am obviously
>> > > not sailing. I am of the school that thinks it it imprudent to trust
>> > > rubber for birth control or keeping your boat afloat. I already have
>> > > some down there (intake hoses, shaft log, etc.) and don't care to add
>> > > more.
>> > >
>> > > If the bellows fails, your boat will sink unless you can get your rag
>> > > and bucket working fairly quickly. The assertion that there has never
>> > > been a documented "catastrophic" failure may be true but, is also
>> > > unprovable BS. All that it means to me is that the owners got the 
>> > > leak
>> > > stopped in time or they haven't had one sink at the dock or where 
>> > > they
>> > > could recover the hull and blame it on a burst bellows.
>> > >
>> > > My belief is that the most likely time one of these things would fail
>> > > is while the engine is in operation and shaft is turning. Given the
>> > > the high quality of the components, the most likely cause would seem
>> > > be some improperly stored something tangling the shaft in heavy seas
>> > > and damaging the bellows (of course from 'statistical' viewpoint that
>> > > sinking wouldn't be 'caused' by the seal, it would be 'caused' by the
>> > > skipper's 'negligence', heheheh).Too many boats go down taking water
>> > > for "unknown reasons" off shore in just these conditions and the 
>> > > hulls
>> > > are never recovered. Some of those must have had dripless seals. It
>> > > used to be that a selling point was the fact the Coasites used 
>> > > them...
>> > > News Flash..they are now going to GFX as well.
>> > >
>> > > Note that these seals are a proven product and I doubt that if I
>> > > bought a boat with one installed that I would be very concerned about
>> > > removing it, but I can't see me spending the money installing one
>> > > where $10 worth of GFX (in my case it was free...better yet) provides
>> > > the same results and no concerns.
>> > >
>> > > I have a dry bilge generally but haven't figured out how to keep from
>> > > adding about a quart of water when I pull my speed transducer after
>> > > each sail to avoid barnacles.
>> > >
>> > > On 10/19/07, Orlando.Duran at averydennison.com
>> > > <Orlando.Duran at averydennison.com> wrote:
>> > >> Please tell me you're kidding about putting in 300lbs of stainless
>> > >> steel to level out the boat!!
>> > >>
>> > >> A good place to store a 1-2gal gas container is in the anchor 
>> > >> locker,
>> > >> it has an 'exhaust' hole..
>> > >> ----------------------------------
>> > >> Regards,
>> > >> OD
>> > >>
>> > >> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Chris Burti" [clburti at gmail.com]
>> > >> Sent: 10/19/2007 12:54 PM
>> > >> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port
>> > >>
>> > >> Yes...the [port list is 'normal'. On my "to do" list is scrounging
>> > >> about 300 pounds of stainless scrap to level it out.
>> > >>
>> > >> Don't leave the gasoline on the boat as a precaution. I only carry 
>> > >> it
>> > >> aboard when I leave on a cruise intending to take the dinghy. Not 
>> > >> only
>> > >> is it a bit safer, it is always fresh. I recommend the anchor 
>> > >> locker,
>> > >> it is vented better top and bottom.
>> > >>
>> > >> On 10/19/07, Moondancer5 at comcast.net <Moondancer5 at comcast.net> 
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>> Hi all,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Now that I've had the boat back for a bit, and the weather has been
>> > >>> highly cooperative, I have a couple of questions on what's normal.
>> > >>> Thanks in advance for all advice!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Not having had a cruiser before, we did not realize the amount of
>> > >>> leaking from the packing gland was abnormal, until we were splashed
>> > >>> this spring and the bilge pump wasn't working... after our marina
>> > >>> adjusted it, we had our little incident with the powerboat wake and
>> > >>> the whole engine had to be reset on the mounts and the shaft
>> > >>> re-aligned, and at the dealer the bilge was dry. After the boat was
>> > >>> delivered back to us there was quite a bit of water in the bilge
>> > >>> (and the auto pump hadn't been left on). Now we see that after 
>> > >>> every
>> > >>> afternoon of sailing, the shaft still drips after the engine has
>> > >>> been shut off. I don't imagine that adjusting the d**n thing after
>> > >>> each sail is normal, I had heard it should do is shed a drop of
>> > >>> water every minute while the engine is running, and none after it's
>> > >>> shut off. What's normal?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> And, I notice (and noticed before the accident) a slight (but
>> > >>> distinct) list to port. Is THAT normal?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> One more while I'm here: Where do you store your gasoline tank for
>> > >>> the dinghy when it's not in use? When at our marina in the slip, we
>> > >>> put the Zodiac on a rack and the outboard on the rail (which has
>> > >>> totally messed up the nice little slot there where we had the
>> > >>> Lifesling mounted, now it won't fit in there with the outboard on
>> > >>> the bracket). We are putting the gas tank in the starboard stern
>> > >>> locker, I believe the a/c compressor is in that area too. is that
>> > >>> safe?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Susan
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Chris Burti
>> > >> Farmville, NC
>> > >>
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