[C320-list] packing gland & listing to port

Adam Weiner esquirecatering at rcn.com
Tue Oct 23 21:59:13 PDT 2007


If they made the cabin nice, like outs, it would have a list.  In boat
design, as in cooking, everything is a trade off.

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk McCullough
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:52 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port


I don't think it has either, but it does have a crappy aft cabin. :)

Kirk
#124
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port


If that's the case then my other solution should work even better.  I'm 
selling the boat!  Does the 387 have a port or starboard list?

JeffC
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Thompson
  To: C320-List
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port


  Jeff:  The correct adjustment for the starboard offset of the halyard
  sheave is so small, once you take into account the acute angle between
  the halyard and the mast, that it would be difficult to measure
  accurately enough to implement the correction.  I don't have the exact
  measurements here, but assuming that the beam is 11.5 feet at the mast
  and that the masthead is 43 feet above the rail then a one inch offset
  to starboard of the masthead sheave would shorten the measurement to
the
  starboard rail by only about .13 inches by my calculation, and
lengthen
  the port measurement by a comparable amount, for a total difference of
  only about 1/4 inch.

  So if you have a difference of an inch in these measurements then you
  are off by a factor of four, and are tilting the masthead to starboard
  by more than 3 inches.  That would certainly make the mast look
somewhat
  straighter floating at the dock, but I doubt if it would actually have
  much effect on hull trim.  In essence, I think you may be treating the
  symptom (mast not plumb) rather than the cause.  Either way you have
  "solved" the list problem by introducing a new one -- a mast that
leans
  too far to starboard.

  Scott Thompson
  Surprise, #653


  Jeff Church wrote:
  > I put a 1 or 2 gallon gas can under the helm seat.
  >
  > Believe it or not, you can get rid of the port list by centering the

mast correctly. You have to take into account the fact that the main
halyard 
that you use to center the mast athwartship exits from the starboard
side of 
the masthead. If the starboard measurement isn't about an inch less than
the 
port measurement you will end up with the mast tilted too far to port.
  >
  > Jeff
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: stevelgross
  >   To: 'C320-List'
  >   Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:17 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port
  >
  >
  >   Is there any room in the propane locker?  It is well ventilated
also.
  >
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
  >   [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
  >   Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
  >   Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:14 PM
  >   To: Catalina 320 List
  >   Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port
  >
  >   Please tell me you're kidding about putting in 300lbs of stainless

steel to
  >   level out the boat!!
  >
  >   A good place to store a 1-2gal gas container is in the anchor
locker, 
it has
  >   an 'exhaust' hole..
  >   ----------------------------------
  >   Regards,
  >   OD
  >
  >   Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: "Chris Burti" [clburti at gmail.com]
  >   Sent: 10/19/2007 12:54 PM
  >   To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
  >   Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port
  >
  >   Yes...the [port list is 'normal'. On my "to do" list is scrounging
  >   about 300 pounds of stainless scrap to level it out.
  >
  >   Don't leave the gasoline on the boat as a precaution. I only carry
it
  >   aboard when I leave on a cruise intending to take the dinghy. Not
only
  >   is it a bit safer, it is always fresh. I recommend the anchor
locker,
  >   it is vented better top and bottom.
  >
  >   On 10/19/07, Moondancer5 at comcast.net <Moondancer5 at comcast.net>
wrote:
  >   > Hi all,
  >   >
  >   > Now that I've had the boat back for a bit, and the weather has
been 
highly
  >   cooperative, I have a couple of questions on what's normal. Thanks
in
  >   advance for all advice!
  >   >
  >   > Not having had a cruiser before, we did not realize the amount
of 
leaking
  >   from the packing gland was abnormal, until we were splashed this 
spring and
  >   the bilge pump wasn't working... after our marina adjusted it, we
had 
our
  >   little incident with the powerboat wake and the whole engine had
to be 
reset
  >   on the mounts and the shaft re-aligned, and at the dealer the
bilge 
was dry.
  >   After the boat was delivered back to us there was quite a bit of
water 
in
  >   the bilge (and the auto pump hadn't been left on). Now we see that

after
  >   every afternoon of sailing, the shaft still drips after the engine
has 
been
  >   shut off. I don't imagine that adjusting the d**n thing after each

sail is
  >   normal, I had heard it should do is shed a drop of water every
minute 
while
  >   the engine is running, and none after it's shut off. What's
normal?
  >   >
  >   > And, I notice (and noticed before the accident) a slight (but 
distinct)
  >   list to port. Is THAT normal?
  >   >
  >   > One more while I'm here: Where do you store your gasoline tank
for 
the
  >   dinghy when it's not in use? When at our marina in the slip, we
put 
the
  >   Zodiac on a rack and the outboard on the rail (which has totally 
messed up
  >   the nice little slot there where we had the Lifesling mounted, now
it 
won't
  >   fit in there with the outboard on the bracket). We are putting the
gas 
tank
  >   in the starboard stern locker, I believe the a/c compressor is in
that 
area
  >   too. is that safe?
  >   >
  >   > Thanks!
  >   >
  >   > Susan
  >   >
  >   >
  >
  >
  >   -- 
  >   Chris Burti
  >   Farmville, NC
  >
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