[C320-list] darn birds
Nicholas Ward
Nicholas_Ward at brown.edu
Mon Sep 17 06:38:25 PDT 2007
We use plastic wire ties secured the spreaders- been good for two years
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1. Re: Darn Birds... (jpmesa at aol.com)
2. Handrail - Stainless Steel (David J Gleason)
3. Re: Darn Birds... (Jerry Mickelson)
4. Re: Darn Birds... (Len)
5. Re: Darn Birds... (BAdams3491 at aol.com)
6. Re: Darn Birds... (stevelgross)
7. Re: Darn Birds... (Jerry Mickelson)
8. Re: Was Sound Reducing Paint Reports, now 320 List Opinion
(Adam Weiner)
9. Re: Handrail - Stainless Steel (Adam Weiner)
10. Re: Handrail - Stainless Steel (David J Gleason)
11. Re: Darn Birds... (Len)
12. Darn Birds (MICHAEL COLE)
13. Re: Darn Birds (argates2nd at comcast.net)
14. Re: Handrail - Stainless Steel (Adam Weiner)
15. Re: Amazing action photos (Kirk McCullough)
16. Darn Birds (MICHAEL COLE)
17. Re: Bilge Spaces (Kirk McCullough)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:12:24 -0400
From: jpmesa at aol.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Darn Birds...
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
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I have had good luck with the plactic owl,?but only when it is hung?from
a rope so it can swing around.?
John? Holokai 2
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim <chillinonahd at yahoo.com>
To: C320 List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 6:36 am
Subject: [C320-list] Darn Birds...
Well, the birds have found my boat and called it home. I've since moved
to
another mooring and got it pretty much cleaned up but am now seriously
considering how to prevent this from happening again. I'm thinking bird
spikes
on the spreaders are the best solution and found serveral on the web
even had
someone donate a box of industrial stainless steel ones but I'm afraid
those
would shred my sail. What have the members of this site used and would
reccomend?
Thanks
Tim
Calypso
#608
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:17:51 -0400
From: David J Gleason <djgleason1 at juno.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Handrail - Stainless Steel
To: C320-list at catalina320.com
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Due to a misfortunate event this summer, I managed to bend one of the SS
Handrails on our boat. In contacting Catalina parts department, Chris
advised the do not sell individual handrails. They are sole in pairs
only. After receiving the replacement, I find that both port and
starboard handrails are identical. They fit either side.
If anyone has a need for a SS handrail, I have a spare sitting in my
basement in the original packing tube ready for shipment. Catalina's
part number is 29093 and their price is $217.75 per pair plus shipping
costs.
Dave Gleason
Proud Mary, #150
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:32:28 -0700
From: "Jerry Mickelson" <jerrymick320 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Darn Birds...
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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I have eliminated almost all bird problems with sheets of "Bounce" it
will keep them away from sail covers, etc. and most of the boat. I also
tie one to the top of the dodger.
Jerry
#118
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:34:42 -0700
From: Len <aqua5len at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Darn Birds...
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Jerry--Why does "Bounce" keep 'em away??
Len
#1070
On 9/15/07, Jerry Mickelson <jerrymick320 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I have eliminated almost all bird problems with sheets of "Bounce" it
> will keep them away from sail covers, etc. and most of the boat. I
> also tie one to the top of the dodger.
>
> Jerry
> #118
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:07:10 EDT
From: BAdams3491 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Darn Birds...
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
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I don't know why Bounce keeps the critters out, but for several years I
have
been cutting strips and placing them on the twist locks for the sail
covers.
Does a great job of keeping the mud daubers out of my sail.
Bert
At Ease
#442
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:24:18 -0400
From: "stevelgross" <stevelgross at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Darn Birds...
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Regarding Birds.
If your problem is little sparrow sized birds, look into the ends of
your boom. You may find a nest in there. Clean out the nest, block the
ends with cloth and the birds will go away. At least they did for us.
If they are seagulls, they may be attracted by any sort of edible or
decomposing matter on the deck, cockpit, or in the lockers. Clean that
up and they may not stick around.
Best Luck, SteveG
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:37 AM
To: C320 List
Subject: [C320-list] Darn Birds...
Well, the birds have found my boat and called it home. I've since moved
to another mooring and got it pretty much cleaned up but am now
seriously considering how to prevent this from happening again. I'm
thinking bird spikes on the spreaders are the best solution and found
serveral on the web even had someone donate a box of industrial
stainless steel ones but I'm afraid those would shred my sail. What have
the members of this site used and would reccomend?
Thanks
Tim
Calypso
#608
---------------------------------
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:13:46 -0700
From: "Jerry Mickelson" <jerrymick320 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Darn Birds...
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Len, received an e-mail regarding Bounce some years ago. It works
wonders. I also keep one inside the outboard motor and grill covers.
And, it will remove any musty smells from below deck. At home, it keeps
cats from our sliding door deck screens! Just Google "Bounce" on the
internet.
Jerry
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:16:07 -0700
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Was Sound Reducing Paint Reports, now 320
List Opinion
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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I've been unusually busy this year. Besides my teaching the Navy has me
training culinary specialists (including they are flying me to Pearl
Harbor on Friday and then I am riding a destroyer back to San Diego to
train people on board), I have been elected to the Board of Directors
Chefs Association of the Pacific Coast, I have been writing a monthly
column for The Culinarian, and I have overall just been busier then last
year.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
allan.field at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 6:53 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Was Sound Reducing Paint Reports,now 320 List
Opinion
Gee Adam, only the 35th time sailing this year? And all this time I
thought you went out a lot...
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From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
> Wait a minute, I thought that was my job on the list: to be admonished
> and ridiculed. Was someone else muzzling in on my turf without me
> knowing it?
>
> The best way, Jon, to open up a can of worms on this list is to write
> about sailing the boat. Every time I attempt that (which I gave up as
> of a few months ago) I was told the list is solely for technical
issues
> and not for the discussion of sailing. (I did break my vow of silence
> on this issue when I did the 55 nm day in just over 10 hours a week or
> so ago.)
>
> As for me, I am going out for my 35th sail of the year tomorrow. I
> will
> not report on anything.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> jonvez at comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: [C320-list] Was Sound Reducing Paint Reports, now 320 List
> Opinion
>
>
> I feel the need to comment on the point Herb is making, even though I
> know I run the risk of opening up a can of worms. Some of us could
> care less about certain topics, and many threads
carry
> on incessantly. So what? We all have the ability to self-censure. I
hope
> we don't set the tone whereby we dissuade people from asking questions
> or offering opinions for fear of being admonished or ridiculed. I just
> hope we can maintain an environment where anyone feels they can ask
any
> question pertinent to our boats and boating in general.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Vez
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: hcreech at comcast.net
>
> > Over and over I see these comments about noise reduction, I just
> > don't
>
> > get it.
> > What's the phrase, oh I think it's "get a life." I have never since
I
> have
> > owned this boat ( eight seasons) cared about engine noise. I love
> > this
> list but
> > just don't get this issue, I think it's a Non! What an anal issue.
> > Why
> don't
> > we talk instead about port list, or PHRF, or dripless seals, or wait
> > a
> minite I
> > think there is another inane issue. Sorry, I couldn't help it.
> > Sincerely, Herb Creech
> > Cloud Chaser #606
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Robert Seastream
> > > My experience is that you need 'dead air' spaces to achieve
> > > insulation, which leads to i solation, particularly in the case of
> > > noise.
Paint
> > > won't cut it, although it may make the engine cover heavier,
> resulting
> > > in reduced vibration of the cover.
> > >
> > > I chose the SailorSolutions tiles. While they don't provide the
> > > 'up
> > > to
> > > 90 percent' noise reduction ('up to' is the disclaimer), my wife
> > > (unbiased witness) says that the engine noise has decreased to
near
> > > half what it was. I just know it's quieter. I might have saved
money
>
> > > by purchasing similar tile backed foam insulation at reduced price
> > > elsewhere, but didn't see anything similar at Home Desperate or
> Lowser
> > > that qualified. Hey, it's a diesel. I'd like to witness these
> quieter
> > > Perkins that I've heard about.
> > >
> > > Bob Seastream
> > > 'Intuition' hull 906
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 13, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Henry LeSieur wrote:
> > >
> > > > I used the SR1000 paint and I am disappointed in the results. I
> > > > can't really make any distinction in noise levels before and
> > > > after application.
> > > >
> > > > Hank
> > > > #331
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> > Herb Creech
> > Cloud Chaser #606
> >
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:17:30 -0700
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Handrail - Stainless Steel
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Just out of wild curiosity, what did you do to the rail?
Adam
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From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of David J Gleason
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:18 AM
To: C320-list at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Handrail - Stainless Steel
Due to a misfortunate event this summer, I managed to bend one of the SS
Handrails on our boat. In contacting Catalina parts department, Chris
advised the do not sell individual handrails. They are sole in pairs
only. After receiving the replacement, I find that both port and
starboard handrails are identical. They fit either side.
If anyone has a need for a SS handrail, I have a spare sitting in my
basement in the original packing tube ready for shipment. Catalina's
part number is 29093 and their price is $217.75 per pair plus shipping
costs.
Dave Gleason
Proud Mary, #150
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:59:14 -0400
From: David J Gleason <djgleason1 at juno.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Handrail - Stainless Steel
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
Cc: c320-list at catalina320.com
Message-ID: <20070915.162643.2876.2.djgleason1 at juno.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On a rather windy day we were entering our slip under power with fenders
over the side tied to the hand rail. There was a cross wind from the
port side and one of the starboard fenders caught an upright that
supports the catwalk. The 3/8" braided line (old jib sheet from
previous
boat) parted. I think the breaking strength of the line was somewhere
around 2000#. Result was a sharp bend in the SS tube of the handrail.
We did recover the fender though.
Dave Gleason
Proud Mary, #150
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:17:30 -0700 "Adam Weiner"
<esquirecatering at rcn.com> writes:
> Just out of wild curiosity, what did you do to the rail?
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of David J
> Gleason
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:18 AM
> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Handrail - Stainless Steel
>
>
> Due to a misfortunate event this summer, I managed to bend one of
> the SS
> Handrails on our boat. In contacting Catalina parts department,
> Chris
> advised the do not sell individual handrails. They are sole in
> pairs
> only. After receiving the replacement, I find that both port and
> starboard handrails are identical. They fit either side.
>
> If anyone has a need for a SS handrail, I have a spare sitting in
> my
> basement in the original packing tube ready for shipment.
> Catalina's
> part number is 29093 and their price is $217.75 per pair plus
> shipping
> costs.
>
> Dave Gleason
> Proud Mary, #150
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:03:35 -0700
From: Len <aqua5len at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Darn Birds...
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID:
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What about seagulls???
On 9/15/07, BAdams3491 at aol.com <BAdams3491 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know why Bounce keeps the critters out, but for several years
> I have been cutting strips and placing them on the twist locks for
> the sail covers.
> Does a great job of keeping the mud daubers out of my sail.
>
> Bert
> At Ease
> #442
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at
> http://www.aol.com
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:13:06 +1000
From: "MICHAEL COLE" <miodio at bigpond.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Darn Birds
To: "C320" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <002901c7f7fe$bd8e9360$bca1d279 at michael>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Here in Sydney I've been using a plastic owl hoisted on the spinnaker
topping lift to about face high with a line to the starboard rear side
of the pulpit.It cost $A48 and after cutting off the moulded in perch it
has worked fine. It swings 2-3 feet in either crosswise direction
-----just make sure if you leave the spinnaker pole on the mast that it
is high enough to clear it . One of my more cynical crew members said
it would keep off all the plastic birds---but it works very well on all
the real ones too.
Mike Cole # 421 Mio Dio
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:10:02 +0000
From: argates2nd at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Darn Birds
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Michael,
Do you have Courmorands or other nasties that sit atop your mast in
Sydney? Will the swinging owl discourage mast sitters as well? Rollie
#182
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From:
"MICHAEL COLE" <miodio at bigpond.com>
To:
"C320" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Subject:
[C320-list] Darn Birds
Date:
Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:13:25
Here in Sydney I've been using a plastic owl hoisted on the spinnaker
topping
lift to about face high with a line to the starboard rear side of the
pulpit.It
cost $A48 and after cutting off the moulded in perch it has worked fine.
It
swings 2-3 feet in either crosswise direction -----just make sure if you
leave
the spinnaker pole on the mast that it is high enough to clear it .
One of my
more cynical crew members said it would keep off all the plastic
birds---but it
works very well on all the real ones too.
Mike Cole # 421 Mio Dio
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:41:03 -0700
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Handrail - Stainless Steel
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000201c7f813$68e4f150$6501a8c0 at LAdamWeiner>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Great story. The moral of the story is sheet happens. (Get it, it was
a jib sheet.)
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of David J Gleason
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 12:59 PM
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
Cc: c320-list at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Handrail - Stainless Steel
On a rather windy day we were entering our slip under power with fenders
over the side tied to the hand rail. There was a cross wind from the
port side and one of the starboard fenders caught an upright that
supports the catwalk. The 3/8" braided line (old jib sheet from
previous
boat) parted. I think the breaking strength of the line was somewhere
around 2000#. Result was a sharp bend in the SS tube of the handrail.
We did recover the fender though.
Dave Gleason
Proud Mary, #150
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:17:30 -0700 "Adam Weiner"
<esquirecatering at rcn.com> writes:
> Just out of wild curiosity, what did you do to the rail?
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of David J
> Gleason
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:18 AM
> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Handrail - Stainless Steel
>
>
> Due to a misfortunate event this summer, I managed to bend one of the
> SS Handrails on our boat. In contacting Catalina parts department,
> Chris
> advised the do not sell individual handrails. They are sole in
> pairs
> only. After receiving the replacement, I find that both port and
> starboard handrails are identical. They fit either side.
>
> If anyone has a need for a SS handrail, I have a spare sitting in my
> basement in the original packing tube ready for shipment.
> Catalina's
> part number is 29093 and their price is $217.75 per pair plus
> shipping
> costs.
>
> Dave Gleason
> Proud Mary, #150
>
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:02:07 -0700
From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Amazing action photos
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <003801c7f82f$80ca6e50$6500a8c0 at Family>
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reply-type=original
I just took my manager out for a day sail. He's from a sailing family,
but
never sailed anywhere near the Pacific. A couple of beers in light air
and
hors d'huevers with the spin up, he wants to move west. The harbour
porpoises were all around us as we ghosted along at 3.5 kts. What a day,
mid
70's and and we all got too much sun, but not too much wine once we were
dockside.
I love sailing!
Kirk
#124
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Amazing action photos
> The hard part was swimming fast enough to take the pictures.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> McCullough
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:27 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Amazing action photos
>
>
> Great stuff Adam, you are one sailing enthusiast, to the nth degree.
>
> Kirk
> #124
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
> To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Amazing action photos
>
>
>> Those photos were taken between Sausalito and Angel Island, one of
>> the
>
>> few warm places in SF Bay. It tends to be less windy and a good
>> broad
>
>> reach. We either hoist the A sail or have dinner. During the photos
>> we were eating dinner. We joked that too bad he didn't come by 15
>> minutes earlier when we were pounding up the Bay with a 100 and full
>> main in 18 plus knots, not 20 minutes later when we had the A sail
>> up.
>>
>> It is about 15 miles to this spot from my marina, about 4 miles
>> around
>
>> Angel Island and then about 15 back. Both 15 mile legs are beats and
>> no that doesn't make any sense. We joke that the C320 is so fast
>> that
>
>> it brings the apparent wind so far forward all the time.
>>
>> Most of our time and mileage is spent beating, no matter what our
>> compass course. This was actually a rare moment. All the photos
>> were
>
>> taken with 5 minutes.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>> McCullough
>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:50 PM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Amazing action photos
>>
>>
>> Great stuff Adam: do you ever sail upwind in the SF Bay, or does the
>> wind just follow you around wherever you go? :)
>>
>> Kirk
>> #124
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "DickPollitt" <dick.pollitt at bigpond.com>
>> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Amazing action photos
>>
>>
>>> Great shots of the boat! But the Golden Gate Bridge has a nasty lean
>>> on it! Dick
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
>>> To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Amazing action photos
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you want to see some amazing (okay, maybe not so amazing) action
>>>> shots of a C320 take a look at Your photos can be viewed at
>>>> http://lyonsimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/3410936 You can look at
>>>> all,
>>
>>>> none of them, some of them, or my favorite click on "slideshow".
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:06:39 +1000
From: "MICHAEL COLE" <miodio at bigpond.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Darn Birds
To: "C320" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c7f830$210fc9f0$bca1d279 at michael>
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Rollie---we do have pelicans as well as seagulls particularly as the
marina also incorporates a restaurant and a cafe and they scrounge
around for scraps. The owl is about 18 inches long and has particularly
piecing eyes--- I have had no problems at all since it took up guard
duties whereas previously there was always bird poo around the
deck-----for Australian readers I bought it from Whitworths
Mike Cole #421 Mio Dio
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:09:25 -0700
From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge Spaces
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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To me it seems you are getting more water in than I get. I don't have
any
stanchion leaks, maybe that's the difference. I can't think of where you
would be getting all that water from. I have my fridge drain plugged
and
unplug it and drain it into a jug when we wash down the fridge
Kirk #124
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell" <dgray at n-sea.org>
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge Spaces
>I have the dripless seal, a new waterheater and holes drilled and
>plugged
>as per Catalina directions. With the fridge drain and numerous small
leaks
>from stanchions etc. I suck a couple gallons out with my wet vac every
>couple weeks . I find it spreads out about an inch deep all the way
from
>the engine to the knot meter sender unit and then turns into moldy
slime if
>I leave it. Sure wish I had a proper sump on this boat. I cannot it
took
>them so may boats to fix this problem. Some day I will have to save up
and
>buy a later model,
>
> Darrell #88
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge Spaces
>
>
>> Part of the issue is to keep water out of the 320. Install a dripless
>> shaft seal if you dont have one. It's a big improvement. Then vacuum
out
>> that area once every 2-3 years to get out the water that may come in
from
>> other sources.
>>
>> Kirk
>>
>> #124
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jane & Ken" <obuoy4848 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 5:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge Spaces
>>
>>
>>> Gary and Al, the first several hundred 320's built did not really
>>> have
>>> a "bilge" and there is space between the twolayers of fiberglass
which
>>> allows water to collect and eventually that water finds its way into
the
>>> hollow structual members where it cannot escape. The factory answer
to
>>> this design flaw is to drill holes, vac the water out and plug the
holes
>>> (then hope no more water gets in??). There are many pics on the
web--or
>>> used to be-- I just raise the bow with a lifting strap, place all
the
>>> weight (friends) I can in the aft cockpit, give them a beer and vac
any
>>> water I have collected. I enlarged the inspection hole to 10 inches
for
>>> easier access. I bought the boat new and have enjoyed sailing her
and
>>> adding things as the years went by. Regards, Ken & Jane Cathey
>>> O'BUOY #219
>>>
>>> alahlm at comcast.net wrote: Gary
>>> I had the same problem with water collecting in the same spot I
>>> added a
>>> 6" inspection plate under the ladder to access the area and keep it
>>> dry -- there should be some pics on the web site
>>>
>>> al ahlman
>>> #476
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>> From: "Gary Magnuson"
>>>
>>>> On my 1995 320, (# 205) I was cleaning the bilge spaces and found
>>>> that
>>>> the bilge
>>>> space under the sink, directly under the companion ladder, does not
>>>> drain into
>>>> the bilge. Isn't there supposed to be a connection between these
two?
>>>> There
>>>> appears to be a limber hole, but it seems to be piped right past
this
>>>> space. I
>>>> can only see into the space through the 4 inch hole under the port
>>>> floor
>>>> section. I used my wet vac to draw about 4 gallons out through the
>>>> inspection
>>>> hole. Any suggestions how to get this section to drain. I also
notice
>>>> that the
>>>> compartment where the bilge pump is located, isn't the lowest point
in
>>>> the
>>>> floor. Plan A was to wash and rinse each section and have it drain
aft
>>>> to the
>>>> bilge pump. The water seems to drain forward toward the base of the
>>>> mast.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Gary Magnuson #205
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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