[C320-list] Voids under the deck

[David Nolte]

Adam,

I am curious and would be interested to hear your reasons for  
possibly moving to a Gemini 105 MkII.

They are great boats, with nice space, and are made near here in  
Annapolis, so we see alot of them on the water. I know a few folks  
who own them, and they do like them. Their shallow draft makes them  
popular here on Chesapeake Bay.

It was the other boat I considered when we decided to make the move  
to a cruiser. I come from a catamaran background, sailing and racing  
beach cats. So I jumped from a cat to a Catalina. I still hop on my  
Hobie 16 when there are small craft warnings and am never happier  
than when I'm kissing 20 knots out on the trapeze.

However, I chose the monohull for the sailing experience. The  
heeling, the feedback from the boat, and mainly the wind in your  
face. I'm not sure you get all that seated behind a wheel in a hard  
covered cockpit on a boat that stays level. And from your postings,  
it's obvious that you love to sail, and I'm sure where you are you  
get plenty of heel and wind in your face.

Just curious,

David Nolte
Beach House #4


On Sep 19, 2007, at 11:41 PM, Adam Weiner wrote:

> Look at the Gemini 105 MKII.  That's my next one.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Allan Field
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:13 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voids under the deck
>
>
> At the end of the day, if I was to buy another boat, it still would  
> be a
> Catalina and Frank Butler and Gerry Douglas know that.  In the 6+  
> years
> I have been on this list, many C320 owners have come and gone with  
> many
> of the goners moving up to larger Catalina's.  I can remember only two
> cases where a C320 owner went with something other than another
> Catalina.  I am sure there probably were more but only two do I  
> remember
> and one was an ex-Commodore.  Despite the boat's shortcomings, the  
> value
> in this boat over the other 2 major production boats - Hunter and
> Beneteau - is still superior.
>
>> From past experience, both personal and from others, I know that if
>> Frank
> Butler gets wind of a production problem, he is all over it, bound and
> determined to make it right.  In my case, he went beyond what I asked
> for. But it says a lot about the company that only Frank can make  
> things
> right. As for the voids, I want to "save" the Frank-card for something
> much bigger.
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sea Shadow - #808
> Columbia, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of brucestanley
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:39 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voids under the deck
>
> and they want to be in business tomorrow????????
> Like family and parents....we all know the best management comes from
> the top.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Uckert, Kevin" <Kevin.Uckert at unisys.com> To:
> <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007
> Subject: [C320-list] Voids under the deck
>
>
>> Enjoying my fifth season with "Freestyle" #957. The the few email
>> exchanges and phone conversations I have had with Catalina to discuss
>> any issue have always been difficult. I never once made any demands,
>> but always were met first with an accusatory tone and statement  
>> that I
>
>> must be responsible for the cause of this issue. As sure as there are
>> voids under the deck, there are even larger voids at Catalina with
>> respect to proper customer care. After spending $100K, was there any
>> customer survey of Catalina or the dealer to provide feedback for
>> improvement? None. That tells me how little they really care.
>
>