[C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?

Tue Apr 22 04:36:15 PDT 2008

CRA

Please send the drawing..... I am not sure if the motor will start in
the off position,
I will not be able to confirm this until the weekend the boat is 3
hours a way right now.
We are scheduled to bring it home on 5/2 so hopefully either myself or
the yard can resolve
the issue. I did make a diagram of how the battery switch was wired
before I left the boat but
was unable to trace the battery wires back to there origination

Thank You
Joe

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:00 AM,  <crashley at gte.net> wrote:
> Joe,
>
>  I happen to be an electrical engineer but this sounds very mysterious. If
> the battery switch is wired per the C320 diagram I have (Catalina drawing #
> 320-73002-10, I can send you copy if you want), then when the battery
> selector switch is in position 1 and the motor will start it makes
> absolutely no sense that the distribution panel is not powered properly. (By
> the way, does the engine start in the OFF position? This might explain
> something.) It's hard to imagine a bad selector switch or a bad battery
> could cause this problem. I suspect the wiring has been reconfigured
> somehow. I would start with trying to verify that the wiring is per the
> drawing I referenced earlier. Also, try to verify that the battery grounds
> are connected together with a very low resistance (i.e., large cable). Good
> luck and I'm interested in eventually knowing what the story is.
>
>  CRA
>  Rosebud #882
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monte B." <mjbc60 at sbcglobal.net>
>
>  To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>  Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:56 PM
>
>
>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>
>
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > The place I would start is trying to determine the age of the batteries.
> The
> > life expectancy of these batteries runs the gamut depending on how you use
> > them and maintain them. If you are in the battery business, (you own a
> boat)
> > get a commercial grade battery hydrometer to assess cell state of charge.
> > The specific gravity reading of the electrolyte roughly equates to the
> state
> > of charge, I.E. 1240 = 12.4 volts. If after a full charge the readings
> vary
> > by .2 or more you need to equalize the batteries. Throw away the
> promariner
> > charger and get a Xantrex as it has an equalize mode. By the way, my
> > promariner also failed in the full charge mode and fried 2 4D batteries.
> > (8d,s wont go in the boxes without mods). The S.G. or state of charge will
> > not reveal capacity but as batteries age capacity always suffers due to
> > sulfation on the plates. The equalize mode counteracts this phenomena to a
> > degree. If your batteries are three or more years old they have done well
> > and they may not be shot but will suffer from reduced capacity. Five or
> more
> > years and it is time to recycle from a reliability standpoint. I cannot
> > comment on the boat wiring, but it sounds like you may have a battery with
> a
> > shorted cell.
> >
> > Monte
> > Laima #620
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> > BAdams3491 at aol.com
> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:33 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
> >
> > Good advice.
> >
> > Bert
> > At Ease
> > #442
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/21/2008 5:10:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com writes:
> >
> > If this  is your first experience with deep cycle batteries (or 12V
> systems
> > on a  boat), go to www.amazon.com and order this book, it's an invaluable
> > source  of information on the subject.
> >
> >
> > Boatowner's Mechanical &  Electrical Manual: How to Maintain, Repair, and
> > Improve Your Boat's  Essential Systems (Hardcover)
> > by Nigel Calder  (Author)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Joe Abbagnaro"
> > <jabbagna at gmail.
> > com>           To
> > Sent by:    C320-List at catalina320.com
> > c320-list-bounce        cc
> > s at lists.catalina
> > 320.com              Subject
> > Re: [C320-list] Battery Help /
> > Confused  ?
> > 04/21/2008  03:05
> > PM
> >
> >
> > Please respond
> > to
> > C320-List at Catali
> > na320.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bert
> >
> > Why do you say the battery is 75%  discharged.?
> > A 12 volt battery at rest I thought usually displays 12.2 -  12.4 volts
> > when not being charged, while being chrarged it is usually 14 +  volts
> > and shorly after being charged   13+ volts and will  eventually
> > stabalize to 12.2 - 12.4.
> >
> > This is my first experience  with deep cycle batteries so if I am wrong
> > than let me  know.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > The batteries are not  orginals one was replced in 2005 and one in 2006,
> > The chrger is the  original a Flyback Promariner that makes a lot of
> noise,
> > which might need  to be replaced.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Robert  Seastream
> > <robert.seastream at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > And if the  batteries are originals, depending on their care and feeding
> > > under the  PO, it may be time for replacement.
> > >
> > >  Bob  Seastream
> > >  Intuition # 906
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Apr 21, 2008, at 3:29 PM, BAdams3491 at aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  > Part of the problem is the 12.4 volts...that's about 75%  capacity.
> > > >
> > > > Bert
> > > > At Ease
> > > >  #442
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 4/21/2008  7:27:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > > jabbagna at gmail.com  writes:
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I have a 1999  320 Hull 574, I bought the boat from the  original
> > >
> > owner.
> >
> > > >  It has 2 Batteries , NO Dedicated start battery. So I am   pretty
> > >
> > confident
> >
> > > > the wiring is original from the factory. Both  batteries  are reading
> > > > about 12.4 volts but I have no way to  load test them. My  problem has
> > > > me confused.
> > >  >
> > > > 1)  Select battery 1 Engine starts but  no other  accessories will
> > >
> > work.
> >
> > > > If I turn on the map  light it  comes on at less than half light
> > > > than fades off after a second  or  so
> > > > to no light at all. Almost looks like  a   feed back condition
> > > > through the light.
> > > >
> > > >  2) Select Battery 2 Engine  will NOTt start,  but all the
> Accessories
> > > > will work when powered  on.
> > > >
> > >  > 3)  Select ALL and Engine starts all Accessories  work.
> > >  >
> > > > Do I have a bad Battery, or possibly a Bad selector   switch.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  >
> > > >
> > > >
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