[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 177, Issue 1, Black carbon soot
Jon Vez
jonvez at comcast.net
Thu Aug 7 04:24:22 PDT 2008
Allan,
I think you are correct. I have to change the washers around my
injectors--the symptom is a very small amount of unburnt fuel that actually
vaporizes due to the high pressure as it leaks out. The only way I
discovered this was taking a cloth and wiping around the injectors. I had a
mechanic take a look and confirmed my diagnosis. He said these washers are
under extreme pressure and they wear over time--but certainly no soot. If
your engine is around 10 years old, you may want to check for this. It is
not something that has to be addressed right away, but worth checking
nonetheless--
Regards,
Jon Vez
Solstice #582
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soot
This response puzzles me. Soot would come from burned fuel, right? The
injectors are feeding unburned fuel to the cylinders, right? So how does
soot come out of a loose injector? It would seem to me that a loose
injector nut would result in a spray of fresh fuel, not soot. What am I
missing here?
Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD
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soot
I had the same problem. The nuts holding down the injectors get loose and
that causes the soot. Try just tightening the two nuts on each injector.
That solved my problem.
Chuck Mueller
Northwind #676
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1. 3GM30F (Rick Evans)
2. Re: 3GM30F (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
3. Re: 3GM30F (Rick Evans)
4. Re: 3GM30F (Bryan Campbell)
5. Re: 3GM30F (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
6. Re: 3GM30F (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
7. Re: 3GM30F (bruceheyman at cox.net)
8. Re: 3GM30F (Robert Seastream)
9. Black Carbon Smoot (Joe Barrett)
10. Fwd: Re: 3GM30F (Karl Mielenhausen _/))
11. Re: Black Carbon Smoot (Paul Rickman)
12. 3GM30F Oil Filters (Karl Mielenhausen _/))
13. Re: Fwd: Re: 3GM30F (Rick Evans)
14. Re: 3GM30F Shop Manual (Charles Greenwell)
15. Re: 3GM30F Oil Filters (Rick Evans)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:18:30 -0400
From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
Subject: [C320-list] 3GM30F
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I have looked all over can anyone tell me the kind (type) of oil and how
much it needs to do an oil change.
Thanks
Rick
"A Careful Wish" 724
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:32:03 -0700
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It's not in your Yanmar engine Manual? Strange, it is in mine...
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Thanks
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:35:41 -0400
From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
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Orlando,
I bought the boat used and I don't have a manual or I would have looked in
it.
Thanks
Rick
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <Orlando.Duran at averydennison.com> wrote:
> It's not in your Yanmar engine Manual? Strange, it is in mine...
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>
> I have looked all over can anyone tell me the kind (type) of oil and how
> much it needs to do an oil change.
>
> Thanks
> Rick
> "A Careful Wish" 724
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:38:56 -0500
From: "Bryan Campbell" <bcampbell at valp.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F
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Rick, use 15w40 API rating: CF (I personally use Castrol). The capacity is
2.6 quarts. You can also use an STP oil filter (S2808) instead of paying the
extra bucks for a Yanmar. As luck would have it, this is the same oil filter
on my wife's Kia Optima. Hope this helps.
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It's not in your Yanmar engine Manual? Strange, it is in mine...
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:39:03 -0700
From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
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Have you looked at yanmar website, they have downloadable manuals online
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Orlando,
I bought the boat used and I don't have a manual or I would have looked in
it.
Thanks
Rick
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <Orlando.Duran at averydennison.com> wrote:
> It's not in your Yanmar engine Manual? Strange, it is in mine...
>
>
>
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>
>
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> I have looked all over can anyone tell me the kind (type) of oil and how
> much it needs to do an oil change.
>
> Thanks
> Rick
> "A Careful Wish" 724
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:43:50 -0700
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You should still go to the website and download the manual...always a
'good to have'
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Rick, use 15w40 API rating: CF (I personally use Castrol). The capacity is
2.6 quarts. You can also use an STP oil filter (S2808) instead of paying
the
extra bucks for a Yanmar. As luck would have it, this is the same oil
filter
on my wife's Kia Optima. Hope this helps.
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:51:13 +0000
From: bruceheyman at cox.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F
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I have the manual, it is really thick but only because it is in about 12
languages. Most of the stuff I'm really interested in it says specialized
knowledge required please contact your dealer...would be nice to find a
source for the shop manual.
Bruce
Somerset 671 SoCal
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:35:41
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F
Orlando,
I bought the boat used and I don't have a manual or I would have looked in
it.
Thanks
Rick
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <Orlando.Duran at averydennison.com> wrote:
> It's not in your Yanmar engine Manual? Strange, it is in mine...
>
>
>
> "Rick Evans"
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>
>
>
>
>
> I have looked all over can anyone tell me the kind (type) of oil and how
> much it needs to do an oil change.
>
> Thanks
> Rick
> "A Careful Wish" 724
>
>
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:24:44 -0400
From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F
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I ordered the Yanmar shop manual through my yard. I insisted it be a
genuine Yanmar product...no Seloc, Chiltons or what have you.
I think I paid about $35 for it which didn't seem too bad, although
you may be able to order it through other sources and maybe cheaper.
Bob Seastream
Intuition # 906
On Aug 5, 2008, at 12:51 PM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
> I have the manual, it is really thick but only because it is in
> about 12 languages. Most of the stuff I'm really interested in it
> says specialized knowledge required please contact your
> dealer...would be nice to find a source for the shop manual.
> Bruce
> Somerset 671 SoCal
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:35:41
> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F
>
>
> Orlando,
>
>
> I bought the boat used and I don't have a manual or I would have
> looked in
> it.
>
> Thanks
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <Orlando.Duran at averydennison.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It's not in your Yanmar engine Manual? Strange, it is in mine...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rick Evans"
>> <ericstillwellev
>>
>> ans at gmail.com> To
>> Sent by: C320-List at catalina320.com
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>>
>> 08/05/2008 08:18
>> AM
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>> na320.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have looked all over can anyone tell me the kind (type) of oil
>> and how
>> much it needs to do an oil change.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rick
>> "A Careful Wish" 724
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:29:34 -0400
From: "Joe Barrett" <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Black Carbon Smoot
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
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I have fixed my engine starting problem. Turns out all the switches inside
the Navpod were corroded and needed to be replaced including the Bus Bar
terminal. Water intrusion was the cause.
Never ends though as I was motoring out for a Sail Sunday and a passenger
went below and said is there supposed to be black smoke coming from the
engine? I shut the engine off, went below and the entire engine compartment
was filled with black carbon smoot. I have no idea where it came from or
where to look for a cause. The engine is the 3GM30F Yanmar and my boat is a
2000 model bought new in September 2001. A crewmember started the engine
while I looked from the Aft cabin and it appeared to be coming off the top
of the engine.
Any thoughts? I usually run a bit higher RPM's than some on this list not
hesitating to run at 3200 RPM for long periods so I never thought about
buildup due to running long periods at low RPM's.
Please HELP!
Joe Barrett
Island Time #689
Naples, Florida
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:39:11 -0400
From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/)" <c320 at suddenlink.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: 3GM30F
To: "C320IA Discussion List" <C320-List at catalina320.org>
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Bob,
Thats a great price for the service manual. Where did you buy it?
The $84 price tag from Torresen has always held me back from buying it....
http://shop.torresen.com/marine_diesel_direct/Yanmar/index.php?p=details&mfc
=Yanmar&defaultbrand=Yanmar&defaultstore=Marine+Diesel+Direct&sku=A0A1361&pr
od_name=1GM10-3HM35+SERVICE+MANUAL
The operating manual is cheaper @ $25...
http://shop.torresen.com/marine_diesel_direct/Yanmar/index.php?p=details&mfc
=Yanmar&defaultbrand=Yanmar&defaultstore=Marine+Diesel+Direct&sku=A0B5004&pr
od_name=GM/HM+OPERATORS+MAN
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:24:44 -0400
I ordered the Yanmar shop manual through my yard. I insisted it be a
genuine Yanmar product...no Seloc, Chiltons or what have you.
I think I paid about $35 for it which didn't seem too bad, although
you may be able to order it through other sources and maybe cheaper.
Bob Seastream
Intuition # 906
On Aug 5, 2008, at 12:51 PM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
> I have the manual, it is really thick but only because it is in about 12
> languages. Most of the stuff I'm really interested in it says
> specialized knowledge required please contact your dealer...would be
> nice to find a source for the shop manual.
> Bruce
> Somerset 671 SoCal
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:35:41
> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F
>
>
> Orlando,
>
>
> I bought the boat used and I don't have a manual or I would have looked
> in
> it.
>
> Thanks
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <Orlando.Duran at averydennison.com> wrote:
>
>> It's not in your Yanmar engine Manual? Strange, it is in mine...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rick Evans"
>> <ericstillwellev
>> ans at gmail.com> To
>> Sent by: C320-List at catalina320.com
>> c320-list-bounce cc
>> s at lists.catalina
>> 320.com Subject
>> [C320-list] 3GM30F
>>
>> 08/05/2008 08:18
>> AM
>>
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>> Please respond
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>> na320.com
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> I have looked all over can anyone tell me the kind (type) of oil and how
>> much it needs to do an oil change.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rick
>> "A Careful Wish" 724
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:41:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Black Carbon Smoot
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Hi Joe,
?
I'd start with the rubber exhaust hose coming of the exhaust elbow going
down to the muffler.. If not then perhaps
the exhaust elbow itself. It is probably wrapped with some heat resistant
material, take that off and look for rust-through. You may also see some
tail tail signs of water dripping from the elbow. If so, good chance there
is a hole in the elbow. If it is a Catalina
part, stainless, then you may be able to get a weld. If not, order it from
Catalina. In my case I had to send it the old
part in to them to make an exact duplicate. If it is a Yanmar part, order a
new one. The elbow is attached to the exhaust
manifold on the back of the motor. Best of luck.
?
Paul
Affinity 657
Bay Bridge Marina
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From: Joe Barrett <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 1:29:34 PM
Subject: [C320-list] Black Carbon Smoot
I have fixed my engine starting problem. Turns out all the switches inside
the Navpod were corroded and needed to be replaced including the Bus Bar
terminal. Water intrusion was the cause.
Never ends though as I was motoring out for a Sail Sunday and a passenger
went below and said is there supposed to be black smoke coming from the
engine? I shut the engine off, went below and the entire engine compartment
was filled with black carbon smoot. I have no idea where it came from or
where to look for a cause. The engine is the 3GM30F Yanmar and my boat is a
2000 model bought new in September 2001. A crewmember started the engine
while I looked from the Aft cabin and it appeared to be coming off the top
of the engine.
Any thoughts? I usually run a bit higher RPM's than some on this list not
hesitating to run at 3200 RPM for long periods so I never thought about
buildup due to running long periods at low RPM's.
Please HELP!
Joe Barrett
Island Time #689
Naples, Florida
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:56:53 -0400
From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/)" <c320 at suddenlink.net>
Subject: [C320-list] 3GM30F Oil Filters
To: "C320IA Discussion List" <C320-List at catalina320.org>
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At the risk of opening a can of worms, remember that just because a filter
fits, doesn't mean it is well suited for this application.
Commonly used substitutes for the "official" Yanmar 119305-35151 are:
Fram PH3593A
Fram HP15
PureOne L14459
WIX 51064
NAPA 1064
and perhaps many more.
The Yanmar, WIX, HP15 Fram, and, I believe, the NAPA all have higher burst
pressures and a higher bypass pressure that Yanmar mechanics have
indicated are necessary.
Of course, I have heard of the official Yanmar filters also bursting
(albeit in a much larger engine) but do you really want to save $2-3 here?
I'd be interested in hearing about our owners first hand experience with
any of these aftermarket brands.
In the meantime, Bay Shore Marine (one of the displaying vendors at last
weekends Regatta) has some of the best parts prices I've seen. For
example....
http://www.bayshoremarineengines.com/ecommerce/ecomm_product_details.asp?pro
did=192&source=srch&phrase=119305
For your consideration,
Karl Mielenhausen
Catalina 320 Hull 690
New Bern, NC
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:04:30 -0400
From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: 3GM30F
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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Awesome thanks
I only paid 8$ for the filter so seemed pretty reasonable to me
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Karl Mielenhausen _/)
<c320 at suddenlink.net>wrote:
> Bob,
> Thats a great price for the service manual. Where did you buy it?
> The $84 price tag from Torresen has always held me back from buying it....
>
>
>
http://shop.torresen.com/marine_diesel_direct/Yanmar/index.php?p=details&mfc
=Yanmar&defaultbrand=Yanmar&defaultstore=Marine+Diesel+Direct&sku=A0A1361&pr
od_name=1GM10-3HM35+SERVICE+MANUAL
>
> The operating manual is cheaper @ $25...
>
>
>
http://shop.torresen.com/marine_diesel_direct/Yanmar/index.php?p=details&mfc
=Yanmar&defaultbrand=Yanmar&defaultstore=Marine+Diesel+Direct&sku=A0B5004&pr
od_name=GM/HM+OPERATORS+MAN
>
> ------- Forwarded message -------
> From: "Robert Seastream" <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F
> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:24:44 -0400
>
> I ordered the Yanmar shop manual through my yard. I insisted it be a
> genuine Yanmar product...no Seloc, Chiltons or what have you.
> I think I paid about $35 for it which didn't seem too bad, although
> you may be able to order it through other sources and maybe cheaper.
>
> Bob Seastream
> Intuition # 906
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2008, at 12:51 PM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>
> I have the manual, it is really thick but only because it is in about 12
>> languages. Most of the stuff I'm really interested in it says
specialized
>> knowledge required please contact your dealer...would be nice to find a
>> source for the shop manual.
>> Bruce
>> Somerset 671 SoCal
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:35:41
>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F
>>
>>
>> Orlando,
>>
>>
>> I bought the boat used and I don't have a manual or I would have looked
in
>> it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rick
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <Orlando.Duran at averydennison.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's not in your Yanmar engine Manual? Strange, it is in mine...
>>>
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>>> I have looked all over can anyone tell me the kind (type) of oil and how
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:53:14 -0400
From: "Charles Greenwell" <CGreenwell at sparusa.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F Shop Manual
To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
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I bought this one:
http://shop.torresen.com/ships_store/?p=details&ident=161791
Seems to be just as good as the manufactures. The price has gone up $10
since I bought it.
Randy
#719
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:05:40 -0400
From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F Oil Filters
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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Funny the filter numbers I got off of mine was:
124550-35110
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Karl Mielenhausen _/)
<c320 at suddenlink.net>wrote:
> At the risk of opening a can of worms, remember that just because a filter
> fits, doesn't mean it is well suited for this application.
>
> Commonly used substitutes for the "official" Yanmar 119305-35151 are:
> Fram PH3593A
> Fram HP15
> PureOne L14459
> WIX 51064
> NAPA 1064
> and perhaps many more.
>
> The Yanmar, WIX, HP15 Fram, and, I believe, the NAPA all have higher burst
> pressures and a higher bypass pressure that Yanmar mechanics have
indicated
> are necessary.
> Of course, I have heard of the official Yanmar filters also bursting
> (albeit in a much larger engine) but do you really want to save $2-3 here?
>
> I'd be interested in hearing about our owners first hand experience with
> any of these aftermarket brands.
>
> In the meantime, Bay Shore Marine (one of the displaying vendors at last
> weekends Regatta) has some of the best parts prices I've seen. For
> example....
>
>
>
http://www.bayshoremarineengines.com/ecommerce/ecomm_product_details.asp?pro
did=192&source=srch&phrase=119305
>
> For your consideration,
>
> Karl Mielenhausen
> Catalina 320 Hull 690
> New Bern, NC
>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:14:40 -0400
From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F Shop Manual
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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Randy,
Thanks I will take a look.
Rick
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Charles Greenwell
<CGreenwell at sparusa.com>wrote:
> I bought this one:
>
> http://shop.torresen.com/ships_store/?p=details&ident=161791
>
> Seems to be just as good as the manufactures. The price has gone up $10
> since I bought it.
>
> Randy
> #719
>
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:51:37 -0400
From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/)" <c320 at suddenlink.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: 3GM30F Oil Filters
To: "C320IA Discussion List" <C320-List at catalina320.org>
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Rick,
Interesting. 124550-35110 crosses to the 3HM engine.
I believe this series was only produced from 1980 to 1983 when it was
replaced by
the 3GM30.
From the picture I saw on eBay, the 124550-35110 looks like the old
version of the 3GM oil filter (which is the 119660-35150) that is before
Yanmar reduced the height of the canister.
Karl
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From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3GM30F Oil Filters
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:05:40 -0400
Funny the filter numbers I got off of mine was:
124550-35110
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Karl Mielenhausen _/)
<c320 at suddenlink.net>wrote:
> At the risk of opening a can of worms, remember that just because a
> filter
> fits, doesn't mean it is well suited for this application.
>
> Commonly used substitutes for the "official" Yanmar 119305-35151 are:
> Fram PH3593A
> Fram HP15
> PureOne L14459
> WIX 51064
> NAPA 1064
> and perhaps many more.
>
> The Yanmar, WIX, HP15 Fram, and, I believe, the NAPA all have higher
> burst
> pressures and a higher bypass pressure that Yanmar mechanics have
> indicated
> are necessary.
> Of course, I have heard of the official Yanmar filters also bursting
> (albeit in a much larger engine) but do you really want to save $2-3
> here?
>
> I'd be interested in hearing about our owners first hand experience with
> any of these aftermarket brands.
>
> In the meantime, Bay Shore Marine (one of the displaying vendors at last
> weekends Regatta) has some of the best parts prices I've seen. For
> example....
>
>
>
http://www.bayshoremarineengines.com/ecommerce/ecomm_product_details.asp?pro
did=192&source=srch&phrase=119305
>
> For your consideration,
>
> Karl Mielenhausen
> Catalina 320 Hull 690
> New Bern, NC
>
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Catalina 320 Hull 690
New Bern, NC
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