[C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

Jeff Church jjemail at comcast.net
Fri Feb 15 06:45:32 PST 2008


Kirk,

There should already be a green wire going to the old charger.

If I remember correctly, the ground wire from the windlass connects to the negative post on the forward battery.

Jeff
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kirk McCullough 
  To: C320-List at Catalina320.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger


  Jeff

  Great thanks, I didn't realize the chassis ground is for the AC side of 
  things. So I need to run a wire to the back of the breaker panel and connect 
  it to the AC grounding strip, Or can I connect it to the green wire where 
  the AC comes into the Xantrex to save a wiring run? So many questions.

  On Boomerang the 2 - 4D are located one under each settee, so I need to 
  identify which connections are which, and can leave the windlass off if I 
  want, thanks again.

  Kirk
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
  To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
  Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger


  Kirk,

  The chassis ground should be connected to the green wire that goes to the AC 
  grounding strip behind the breaker panel. DC negative and AC ground are 
  separate circuits, so don't use the DC negative wire.

  I installed a Link 20 and connected all the grounds to the shunt except the 
  anchor windlass which I left connected to the ground post on battery #2. 
  Since the windless is connected thru a switch which is usually off, it won't 
  influence the reading from the Link 10 (or 20).

  JeffC


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Kirk McCullough
    To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
    Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:00 PM
    Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger


    Again thanks to Herb, Jon, Bill, Karl, Allan, Jeff and all.

        -More Questions

    I am starting the installation and have purchased breakers which I will
    install
    between the charger and each battery bank to solve that problem. They were
    recommended over fuses by the electrical installer at our yard.

    The Xantrex also has a chassis ground. How/where did you all connect to
    this ground. Is the DC ground going into the Neg connection on the charger
    not the same as the chassis ground point. Can I simply jumper over to the
    chassis ground connection from the Neg terminal or do I need to run a
    separate wire back to the ground behind the electrical panel?

    I also purchased the Link 10 and want to install it. I saw the drawing on
    the website, and see that all loads need to be connected after the shunt.
    These loads inlcude the charger, the windlass, the DC panel etc. Can I
    connect those cables
    directly to the shunt terminal or do I need a separate ground connector
    installed somewhere near the battery. I intend to use the Link 10 for the
    house bank only (2 X 4D), but if I switch to the starting battery will the
    Link
    10 then monitor the starting battery? I have the house on position #1 and
    the
    starting Batt on position #2.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
    To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
    Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:37 AM
    Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger


    > Kirk,
    >
    > The fuses are actually a bit hard to find for the size of the cabling. I
    > ended up getting them from Crutchfield--they are sold for automotive
    > purposes, but they are gold coated and corrosion is not an issue....
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Jon Vez
    > Solstice #582
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
    > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
    > McCullough
    > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:43 PM
    > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
    >
    > Thanks Bill I do remember the story of the fire, and yes my hull #124 
  does
    > not currently have them, so as part of my new Xantrex installation I 
  will
    > add the fuses. I bought the TC 40+ and the manual asks for a DC cct
    > breaker
    > or DC fuse and disconnect rated at 50 amps at each bank.
    >
    > I now need to look around for this hardware, should be easy to find I
    > expect.
    >
    > Thanks again to all who have given me some great input.
    >
    > Kirk
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
    > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
    > Culbertson
    > Sent: 10 February 2008 13:18
    > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
    >
    > Kirk,
    >
    > re: DC fuse at each battery.  I believe that your older (#124) boat does
    > not
    > have them unless you or someone added them.
    > At some point (I don't know when) Catalina added them to the production
    > model.  My boat #859 has them and
    > they're documented in the electrical drawings for the boat.  The fuses 
  are
    > inline in the charger -> battery cable
    > about 4"-6" before the connection to the battery.  Catalina may have
    > started
    > fusing the battery charger lines after the fire on
    > Kit Carson's boat.  Kit contributes to this maillist, is a member of the
    > 320
    > association and has attended most or all of
    > the annual regattas.
    >
    > -bill
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----
    > From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
    > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
    > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:59:49 PM
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
    >
    > Thanks to all for the quick responses. I'm off to the boat show
    > (Vancouver)
    > today to make the purchase. Not sure which way I will go,  but now I 
  know
    > that either will do the job, and I just need to analyze my own needs. We
    > do
    > stay on the hook for several days at a time, but then we balance that 
  out
    > with a a couple of days dockside. For days when Boomerang is at her
    > homeport, I have
    > never run the fridge when not on board because of the Pro-Mariner
    > concerns.
    > So a big improvement will be cold drinks whenever I go to the boat. And
    > the
    > constant humming will be history!
    >
    > The part about existing wiring size working for the 10+ but not 20+ may
    > influence me.
    >
    > I found a Xantrex manual on line and for both the 20+ and 40+ chargers
    > they
    > call for a fuse on the DC side for each battery bank. I don't believe I
    > have
    >
    > fuses on each bank with the Pro-Mariner. Has everyone installed these as
    > part of the project?
    >
    > I like Herb's idea to mount it on a back panel, this would retain the
    > existing 4 mounting holes on the bulkhead.
    >
    > I have the 2 x 4D paralleled for the house bank on position #1 and a 
  group
    > 27 starter on position #2.
    >
    > I am seriously looking at the link 20 also. I understand this is much
    > better
    >
    > than the remote monitor they offer. Has anyone added the temperature
    > sensor?
    >
    > Kirk
    > #124
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
    > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
    > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:10 AM
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
    >
    >
    >> Kirk,
    >>
    >> I used the Xantrex 20 for a 400ah house and a group 27 starter (don't
    >> recall
    >> how many amp hours that one is). When I did this project I replaced my
    >> batteries (died and early death from the ProMariner) and added the
    >> starter.
    >> Very easy job (Herb's description is very good). The only difference 
  for
    >> me
    >> is I did not use a bus bar. Instead I peeled off just enough wiring to
    >> fit
    >> the 4awg into the monel fittings (with Mr. Hare's advice)...has worked
    >> great
    >> for 4 seasons...
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >>
    >> Jon Vez
    >> Solstice #582
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
    >> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
    >> McCullough
    >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:29 AM
    >> To: C320-List
    >> Subject: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
    >>
    >> I know this has been discussed already, but I would like to know what
    >> size
    >> charger is needed or best suited. I am considering the Xantrex iether 
  20
    >> amp
    >> or 40 amp.
    >>
    >> Any installation tips would also be much appreciated.
    >>
    >> Kirk
    >>
    >> Boomerang #124
    >>
    >>
    >>
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