[C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
Warren Updike
wupdike at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 15 13:22:43 PST 2008
Jason, if you're buying a pre-owned 320 part of the inspection should
include the owners documents. The 320 manual from Catalina will have wiring
diagrams for both AC and DC circuits. Depending on the hull no. of the boat
you are considering, there is a different placement of battery switches and
some other components. However, it seems overall the approach is the same.
A number of us, especially with the older hulls, have made significant
upgrades in the DC system mainly to accomodate a cruising lifestyle. Since
retiring in 2004, the Admiral and I have been doing 3-4 week cruises here on
the Chesapeake Bay. I prefer to anchor and moor over taking a slip. This
places added demands on the 12V power. However, if you are weekend sailing,
you may not need to do an upgrade.
So, you have found this 320 list and the web site. All of this and more are
discussed ad nauseum in both. These are most valuable resources for a new
C320 owner and I encourage you to join our association as you will receive
in benefits over 100 times the annual cost. You might even get to meet
Orlando. I'm looking forward to it myself.
Will you disclose on this list your location and the hull number you are
considering? I'd like to add your name to the list of possible attendees to
our 2008 Regatta in Annapolis, MD. We'll keep you informed of Regatta
related activities and you will be able to register and pay on our web site.
I wish you to get a very low price on a very clean boat. You'll enjoy the
320. She sails well and is well found.
Warren & Pattie Updike
C320, #62, 1994, "Warr De Mar"
Frog Mortar Creek, Middle River
Chesapeake Bay
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Alexander" <alexander.jason at gmail.com>
To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> Hello,
>
> I've been following this thread for a while. I'm about to buy a
> 320 and was wondering. Does anyone have a wiring diagram of all of
> this.
>
> Thanks
> jason
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Jeff Church <jjemail at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Kirk,
>>
>> There should already be a green wire going to the old charger.
>>
>> If I remember correctly, the ground wire from the windlass connects to
>> the negative post on the forward battery.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kirk McCullough
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>
>>
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Great thanks, I didn't realize the chassis ground is for the AC side of
>> things. So I need to run a wire to the back of the breaker panel and
>> connect
>> it to the AC grounding strip, Or can I connect it to the green wire
>> where
>> the AC comes into the Xantrex to save a wiring run? So many questions.
>>
>> On Boomerang the 2 - 4D are located one under each settee, so I need to
>> identify which connections are which, and can leave the windlass off if
>> I
>> want, thanks again.
>>
>> Kirk
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>> Kirk,
>>
>> The chassis ground should be connected to the green wire that goes to
>> the AC
>> grounding strip behind the breaker panel. DC negative and AC ground are
>> separate circuits, so don't use the DC negative wire.
>>
>> I installed a Link 20 and connected all the grounds to the shunt except
>> the
>> anchor windlass which I left connected to the ground post on battery
>> #2.
>> Since the windless is connected thru a switch which is usually off, it
>> won't
>> influence the reading from the Link 10 (or 20).
>>
>> JeffC
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kirk McCullough
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>> Again thanks to Herb, Jon, Bill, Karl, Allan, Jeff and all.
>>
>> -More Questions
>>
>> I am starting the installation and have purchased breakers which I
>> will
>> install
>> between the charger and each battery bank to solve that problem. They
>> were
>> recommended over fuses by the electrical installer at our yard.
>>
>> The Xantrex also has a chassis ground. How/where did you all connect
>> to
>> this ground. Is the DC ground going into the Neg connection on the
>> charger
>> not the same as the chassis ground point. Can I simply jumper over to
>> the
>> chassis ground connection from the Neg terminal or do I need to run a
>> separate wire back to the ground behind the electrical panel?
>>
>> I also purchased the Link 10 and want to install it. I saw the
>> drawing on
>> the website, and see that all loads need to be connected after the
>> shunt.
>> These loads inlcude the charger, the windlass, the DC panel etc. Can
>> I
>> connect those cables
>> directly to the shunt terminal or do I need a separate ground
>> connector
>> installed somewhere near the battery. I intend to use the Link 10 for
>> the
>> house bank only (2 X 4D), but if I switch to the starting battery
>> will the
>> Link
>> 10 then monitor the starting battery? I have the house on position #1
>> and
>> the
>> starting Batt on position #2.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>> > Kirk,
>> >
>> > The fuses are actually a bit hard to find for the size of the
>> cabling. I
>> > ended up getting them from Crutchfield--they are sold for
>> automotive
>> > purposes, but they are gold coated and corrosion is not an
>> issue....
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Jon Vez
>> > Solstice #582
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>> > McCullough
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:43 PM
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>> >
>> > Thanks Bill I do remember the story of the fire, and yes my hull
>> #124
>> does
>> > not currently have them, so as part of my new Xantrex installation
>> I
>> will
>> > add the fuses. I bought the TC 40+ and the manual asks for a DC cct
>> > breaker
>> > or DC fuse and disconnect rated at 50 amps at each bank.
>> >
>> > I now need to look around for this hardware, should be easy to find
>> I
>> > expect.
>> >
>> > Thanks again to all who have given me some great input.
>> >
>> > Kirk
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>> > Culbertson
>> > Sent: 10 February 2008 13:18
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>> >
>> > Kirk,
>> >
>> > re: DC fuse at each battery. I believe that your older (#124) boat
>> does
>> > not
>> > have them unless you or someone added them.
>> > At some point (I don't know when) Catalina added them to the
>> production
>> > model. My boat #859 has them and
>> > they're documented in the electrical drawings for the boat. The
>> fuses
>> are
>> > inline in the charger -> battery cable
>> > about 4"-6" before the connection to the battery. Catalina may
>> have
>> > started
>> > fusing the battery charger lines after the fire on
>> > Kit Carson's boat. Kit contributes to this maillist, is a member
>> of the
>> > 320
>> > association and has attended most or all of
>> > the annual regattas.
>> >
>> > -bill
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----
>> > From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:59:49 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>> >
>> > Thanks to all for the quick responses. I'm off to the boat show
>> > (Vancouver)
>> > today to make the purchase. Not sure which way I will go, but now
>> I
>> know
>> > that either will do the job, and I just need to analyze my own
>> needs. We
>> > do
>> > stay on the hook for several days at a time, but then we balance
>> that
>> out
>> > with a a couple of days dockside. For days when Boomerang is at her
>> > homeport, I have
>> > never run the fridge when not on board because of the Pro-Mariner
>> > concerns.
>> > So a big improvement will be cold drinks whenever I go to the boat.
>> And
>> > the
>> > constant humming will be history!
>> >
>> > The part about existing wiring size working for the 10+ but not 20+
>> may
>> > influence me.
>> >
>> > I found a Xantrex manual on line and for both the 20+ and 40+
>> chargers
>> > they
>> > call for a fuse on the DC side for each battery bank. I don't
>> believe I
>> > have
>> >
>> > fuses on each bank with the Pro-Mariner. Has everyone installed
>> these as
>> > part of the project?
>> >
>> > I like Herb's idea to mount it on a back panel, this would retain
>> the
>> > existing 4 mounting holes on the bulkhead.
>> >
>> > I have the 2 x 4D paralleled for the house bank on position #1 and
>> a
>> group
>> > 27 starter on position #2.
>> >
>> > I am seriously looking at the link 20 also. I understand this is
>> much
>> > better
>> >
>> > than the remote monitor they offer. Has anyone added the
>> temperature
>> > sensor?
>> >
>> > Kirk
>> > #124
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:10 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>> >
>> >
>> >> Kirk,
>> >>
>> >> I used the Xantrex 20 for a 400ah house and a group 27 starter
>> (don't
>> >> recall
>> >> how many amp hours that one is). When I did this project I
>> replaced my
>> >> batteries (died and early death from the ProMariner) and added the
>> >> starter.
>> >> Very easy job (Herb's description is very good). The only
>> difference
>> for
>> >> me
>> >> is I did not use a bus bar. Instead I peeled off just enough
>> wiring to
>> >> fit
>> >> the 4awg into the monel fittings (with Mr. Hare's advice)...has
>> worked
>> >> great
>> >> for 4 seasons...
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Jon Vez
>> >> Solstice #582
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> >> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>> >> McCullough
>> >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:29 AM
>> >> To: C320-List
>> >> Subject: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>> >>
>> >> I know this has been discussed already, but I would like to know
>> what
>> >> size
>> >> charger is needed or best suited. I am considering the Xantrex
>> iether
>> 20
>> >> amp
>> >> or 40 amp.
>> >>
>> >> Any installation tips would also be much appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Kirk
>> >>
>> >> Boomerang #124
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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