[C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

Kirk McCullough kirk.mccullough at telus.net
Sat Feb 16 13:41:49 PST 2008


Jason
There will be a wiring drawing in the Catalina Manual, which should come 
with the boat. I find that the 320's were wired differently over the years 
so you need a drawing for the vintate boat you end up buying.

As I make changes to my DC system I keep updating my drawing which  I keep 
on board.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason Alexander" <alexander.jason at gmail.com>
To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger


> Hello,
>
> I've been following this thread for a while.     I'm about to buy a
> 320 and was wondering.  Does anyone have a wiring diagram of all of
> this.
>
> Thanks
> jason
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Jeff Church <jjemail at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Kirk,
>>
>>  There should already be a green wire going to the old charger.
>>
>>  If I remember correctly, the ground wire from the windlass connects to 
>> the negative post on the forward battery.
>>
>>  Jeff
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Kirk McCullough
>>   To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>
>>
>>   Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:50 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>>   Jeff
>>
>>   Great thanks, I didn't realize the chassis ground is for the AC side of
>>   things. So I need to run a wire to the back of the breaker panel and 
>> connect
>>   it to the AC grounding strip, Or can I connect it to the green wire 
>> where
>>   the AC comes into the Xantrex to save a wiring run? So many questions.
>>
>>   On Boomerang the 2 - 4D are located one under each settee, so I need to
>>   identify which connections are which, and can leave the windlass off if 
>> I
>>   want, thanks again.
>>
>>   Kirk
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
>>   To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>   Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:52 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>>   Kirk,
>>
>>   The chassis ground should be connected to the green wire that goes to 
>> the AC
>>   grounding strip behind the breaker panel. DC negative and AC ground are
>>   separate circuits, so don't use the DC negative wire.
>>
>>   I installed a Link 20 and connected all the grounds to the shunt except 
>> the
>>   anchor windlass which I left connected to the ground post on battery 
>> #2.
>>   Since the windless is connected thru a switch which is usually off, it 
>> won't
>>   influence the reading from the Link 10 (or 20).
>>
>>   JeffC
>>
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: Kirk McCullough
>>     To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>     Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:00 PM
>>     Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>>     Again thanks to Herb, Jon, Bill, Karl, Allan, Jeff and all.
>>
>>         -More Questions
>>
>>     I am starting the installation and have purchased breakers which I 
>> will
>>     install
>>     between the charger and each battery bank to solve that problem. They 
>> were
>>     recommended over fuses by the electrical installer at our yard.
>>
>>     The Xantrex also has a chassis ground. How/where did you all connect 
>> to
>>     this ground. Is the DC ground going into the Neg connection on the 
>> charger
>>     not the same as the chassis ground point. Can I simply jumper over to 
>> the
>>     chassis ground connection from the Neg terminal or do I need to run a
>>     separate wire back to the ground behind the electrical panel?
>>
>>     I also purchased the Link 10 and want to install it. I saw the 
>> drawing on
>>     the website, and see that all loads need to be connected after the 
>> shunt.
>>     These loads inlcude the charger, the windlass, the DC panel etc. Can 
>> I
>>     connect those cables
>>     directly to the shunt terminal or do I need a separate ground 
>> connector
>>     installed somewhere near the battery. I intend to use the Link 10 for 
>> the
>>     house bank only (2 X 4D), but if I switch to the starting battery 
>> will the
>>     Link
>>     10 then monitor the starting battery? I have the house on position #1 
>> and
>>     the
>>     starting Batt on position #2.
>>
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>>     To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>     Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:37 AM
>>     Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>>     > Kirk,
>>     >
>>     > The fuses are actually a bit hard to find for the size of the 
>> cabling. I
>>     > ended up getting them from Crutchfield--they are sold for 
>> automotive
>>     > purposes, but they are gold coated and corrosion is not an 
>> issue....
>>     >
>>     > Regards,
>>     >
>>     > Jon Vez
>>     > Solstice #582
>>     >
>>     > -----Original Message-----
>>     > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>     > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>>     > McCullough
>>     > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:43 PM
>>     > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>     > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>     >
>>     > Thanks Bill I do remember the story of the fire, and yes my hull 
>> #124
>>   does
>>     > not currently have them, so as part of my new Xantrex installation 
>> I
>>   will
>>     > add the fuses. I bought the TC 40+ and the manual asks for a DC cct
>>     > breaker
>>     > or DC fuse and disconnect rated at 50 amps at each bank.
>>     >
>>     > I now need to look around for this hardware, should be easy to find 
>> I
>>     > expect.
>>     >
>>     > Thanks again to all who have given me some great input.
>>     >
>>     > Kirk
>>     >
>>     > -----Original Message-----
>>     > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>     > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>>     > Culbertson
>>     > Sent: 10 February 2008 13:18
>>     > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>     > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>     >
>>     > Kirk,
>>     >
>>     > re: DC fuse at each battery.  I believe that your older (#124) boat 
>> does
>>     > not
>>     > have them unless you or someone added them.
>>     > At some point (I don't know when) Catalina added them to the 
>> production
>>     > model.  My boat #859 has them and
>>     > they're documented in the electrical drawings for the boat.  The 
>> fuses
>>   are
>>     > inline in the charger -> battery cable
>>     > about 4"-6" before the connection to the battery.  Catalina may 
>> have
>>     > started
>>     > fusing the battery charger lines after the fire on
>>     > Kit Carson's boat.  Kit contributes to this maillist, is a member 
>> of the
>>     > 320
>>     > association and has attended most or all of
>>     > the annual regattas.
>>     >
>>     > -bill
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > ----- Original Message ----
>>     > From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
>>     > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>     > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:59:49 PM
>>     > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>     >
>>     > Thanks to all for the quick responses. I'm off to the boat show
>>     > (Vancouver)
>>     > today to make the purchase. Not sure which way I will go,  but now 
>> I
>>   know
>>     > that either will do the job, and I just need to analyze my own 
>> needs. We
>>     > do
>>     > stay on the hook for several days at a time, but then we balance 
>> that
>>   out
>>     > with a a couple of days dockside. For days when Boomerang is at her
>>     > homeport, I have
>>     > never run the fridge when not on board because of the Pro-Mariner
>>     > concerns.
>>     > So a big improvement will be cold drinks whenever I go to the boat. 
>> And
>>     > the
>>     > constant humming will be history!
>>     >
>>     > The part about existing wiring size working for the 10+ but not 20+ 
>> may
>>     > influence me.
>>     >
>>     > I found a Xantrex manual on line and for both the 20+ and 40+ 
>> chargers
>>     > they
>>     > call for a fuse on the DC side for each battery bank. I don't 
>> believe I
>>     > have
>>     >
>>     > fuses on each bank with the Pro-Mariner. Has everyone installed 
>> these as
>>     > part of the project?
>>     >
>>     > I like Herb's idea to mount it on a back panel, this would retain 
>> the
>>     > existing 4 mounting holes on the bulkhead.
>>     >
>>     > I have the 2 x 4D paralleled for the house bank on position #1 and 
>> a
>>   group
>>     > 27 starter on position #2.
>>     >
>>     > I am seriously looking at the link 20 also. I understand this is 
>> much
>>     > better
>>     >
>>     > than the remote monitor they offer. Has anyone added the 
>> temperature
>>     > sensor?
>>     >
>>     > Kirk
>>     > #124
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > ----- Original Message -----
>>     > From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>>     > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>     > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:10 AM
>>     > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >> Kirk,
>>     >>
>>     >> I used the Xantrex 20 for a 400ah house and a group 27 starter 
>> (don't
>>     >> recall
>>     >> how many amp hours that one is). When I did this project I 
>> replaced my
>>     >> batteries (died and early death from the ProMariner) and added the
>>     >> starter.
>>     >> Very easy job (Herb's description is very good). The only 
>> difference
>>   for
>>     >> me
>>     >> is I did not use a bus bar. Instead I peeled off just enough 
>> wiring to
>>     >> fit
>>     >> the 4awg into the monel fittings (with Mr. Hare's advice)...has 
>> worked
>>     >> great
>>     >> for 4 seasons...
>>     >>
>>     >> Regards,
>>     >>
>>     >> Jon Vez
>>     >> Solstice #582
>>     >>
>>     >> -----Original Message-----
>>     >> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>     >> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>>     >> McCullough
>>     >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:29 AM
>>     >> To: C320-List
>>     >> Subject: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>     >>
>>     >> I know this has been discussed already, but I would like to know 
>> what
>>     >> size
>>     >> charger is needed or best suited. I am considering the Xantrex 
>> iether
>>   20
>>     >> amp
>>     >> or 40 amp.
>>     >>
>>     >> Any installation tips would also be much appreciated.
>>     >>
>>     >> Kirk
>>     >>
>>     >> Boomerang #124
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
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