[C320-list] 1995 C320 Buyer Information Requested

[R Airis]

 Hale Kai 2   #266 ( 95 )  Cold water (Puget Sound) all year & no blisters 
yet!
New bottom paint  every 2-3 years ( Trinadad)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chef Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 1995 C320 Buyer Information Requested


>I have the problem to, actually my boat does, and it is the same year hull
> 218.  I am in cold water, about 45 to 50 degrees all year long.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Larry Frank
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 6:31 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 1995 C320 Buyer Information Requested
>
> Pat,
>
> Sorry for the delay in answering - just returned from an extended business
> trip overseas.
>
> The blisters have appeared randomly distributed from stem to stern and 
> port
> to starboard.  Some are at the waterline and some are along the bottom 
> fore
> and aft centerline.  I have tried to look for a pattern but have not 
> picked
> one out.
>
> What makes these blisters somewhat different is that they are rather 
> large,
> but few in number.  Think of slicing off 1/4 to 1/3 of a tennis ball, and
> you will get the approximate picture.
>
> Every time the bottom is repainted I have to repair 10-15 of these.  They
> didn't show up until WindSwept was about 5 years old, but are now appear 
> at
> each bottom job.
>
> A talked to Peter a few years ago about the problem and his experience is
> similar, as is his hull number.
>
> It is probably worth noting that both Peter and I sail in very warm salt
> water environments.  He is in south Florida if memory serves me correctly
> and I sail around Corpus Christi, TX which is very south along the Texas
> Gulf Coast.  In the summer water temperature exceeds 85 degrees for 3-4
> months, peaking at about 88 degrees.
>
> When the problem first arose, Catalina contributed some money for the 
> first
> blister fix since it was still covered by warrantee.
>
> These early Catalinas were not built with the blister resistant resins 
> that
> are used now.  Instead they had a barrier coating applied at the factory. 
> I
> am thinking that the barrier coating may have been damaged during an early
> bottom painting job, perhaps even the first one during commissioning by 
> the
> local dealer.
>
> At the factory tour during the Catalina rendezvous a few years back, Gerry
> Douglas recommended to me that the barrier coating should be renewed after
> around 10 years.  WindSwept is now about 13 and I may do that this year, 
> but
> when I review the problem with the boatyard that does my work, and an
> independent marine surveyor the advice is redoing the barrier coating is 
> not
> worth the cost with this type of blister.  The advice has always been if 
> the
> blister is repaired correctly with vinyl ester resin there is no 
> degradation
> to the structural integrity of the hull.
>
> My main reason for repairing the blisters is that I will sell WindSwept 
> some
> day.  I would expect a prospective buyer will discount the price they will
> pay because of the blisters, so why not pay the bill myself now and avoid
> the recurring repairs that are inevitable at each bottom job.
>
> Larry
> WindSwept C320 #246
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of pat reynolds
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:14 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 1995 C320 Buyer Information Requested
>
> Larry I have hull 249 and never had a problem.  What
> areas were involved
>
> Pat R
> --- Larry Frank <WindSwept at stx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> I have hull number 246 and remember when you
>> repaired your blisters and
>> applied the barrier coat.  I am glad to hear the job
>> was a success.  I too
>> have a very similar blistering issue to what you
>> described when you were
>> doing your repairs.
>>
>> This year I am considering the same repair job as
>> you described in the past.
>>
>>
>> After making your repairs and applying the barrier
>> coat, how long did you
>> have the boat?  Have you heard anything from the new
>> owner in this regard?
>> If I am not mistaken you have a different boat now,
>> correct?
>>
>> I agree with your assessment of a 1995 320.  Any
>> thirteen year old boat may
>> have issues and a good surveyor and survey should
>> bring them to light.
>>
>> Larry
>> WindSwept C320 #246
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of Peter Clancy
>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:02 PM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 1995 C320 Buyer Information
>> Requested
>>
>> Joe ...... I owned 'AROBAN' for 8 years, a 1995 C320
>> hull #222. First, I
>> believe it's essential to have a thorough survey
>> done on the boat. The
>> shallow bilge was never an issue with me as I
>> switched to GFO packing which
>> seldom dripped. Others have gone to the dripless
>> shaft seals with good
>> results. The key is to keep water from accumulating
>> in the bilge and under
>> the bilge tray. The boat probably has the Perkins
>> diesel and was presumably
>> used in salt water. I'd ask if the exhaust elbow had
>> ever been replaced. I
>> had to replace mine at 400 hours. Take a look at the
>> refrigeration
>> compressor unit in the port aft lazarette. Mine had
>> rusted quite a bit but
>> still worked fine.  I also had a blistering problem
>> as Catalina had not yet
>> started using vinylester resins in 1995. I repaired
>> the blisters myself and
>> applied an epoxy barrier coat which eliminated any
>> recurrence. I never had a
>> problem with the aqua lift muffler. Check for leaks
>> around the chain plates
>> which may need to be re-bedded. I don't think
>> there's any issue especially
>> unique to the C320 that a good surveyor wouldn't
>> identify. Good luck. Your
>> friend is getting a well-made, solid sailboat with
>> pleasing performance.
>>
>> Peter Clancy
>> 'AROBAN' Hull #222 (former owner)
>> Miami, FL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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