[C320-list] Exhaust

Thu Jun 5 18:51:48 PDT 2008

I'll check that out. Thanks.

----- Original Message ----
From: Chuck and Kathy <katchu at chartermi.net>
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 8:53:31 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust

Have you checked for blow-by at the injectors?  My injector hold down bolts
were a little loose and there was a track of soot near one of the injectors.
I've seen another C320 where the whole compartment was sooty for the same
reason.

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Autopilot (Allan S. Field)
  2. Re: Exhaust (Paul Rickman)
  3. Re: Exhaust (bruceheyman at cox.net)
  4. Re: Exhaust (Paul Rickman)
  5.  Autohelm speedometer (warren updike)
  6. Re: C320-list Digest, Vol 114, Issue 2 (warren updike)
  7. Re: C320.......air conditioning (Rick  Sulewski)
  8. Asymetric Chute Tack Block (Irving Grunes)
  9. Re: Asymetric Chute Tack Block (Denny Browne)
  10. Re: Attaching jib sheets (Denny Browne)
  11. Re: Install 'cigarette lighter' charger at    ignition
switch
      housing (crashley at gte.net)
  12. Re: Bow Nav Lights (hcreech at comcast.net)
  13. Re: Asymetric Chute Tack Block (bruceheyman at cox.net)
  14. Re: Install 'cigarette lighter'    chargerat    ignition
switch
      housing (bruceheyman at cox.net)
  15. Re: Install 'cigarette lighter'    chargerat    ignition
switch
      housing (crashley at gte.net)
  16. Re: C320.......air conditioning (Michael Ferguson)
  17. Re: C320.......air conditioning (Robert Seastream)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:09:48 -0400
From: "Allan S. Field" <allan.field at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Autopilot
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David - The control panel lowers very easily.  I had to do this on Sea
Shadow as the engine kill t-handle would not clear the bottom of the
autohelm motor.  Looking forward to seeing #4 at the regatta! - Allan Field

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of David Nolte
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:37 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Autopilot

I just spent three days helping a new member of our "club" bring his  
just purchased C320 (#614) home from Washington DC to just outside  
Baltimore, MD.  About 40 miles as the crow flies but almost 200nm by  
water. It was a wonderful trip. (Warren & Bruce, I'll work on getting  
him to come to the regatta.)

Along the way I fell in love with his Raymarine ST4000+, and am  
thinking about buying one. However, when I went down to my boat  
today, I realized that my control panel on the pedestal looks to be  
too high (I never would have said that about it before!) to  
accommodate the wheel attachment for the autopilot. Has anyone put an  
autopilot on an older boat like mine, & how did you do it? Can you  
lower the control panel?

Thanks,

David Nolte
Beach House #4

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:16:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
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Bruce and Pat,
Thanks for your ideas. I like them.
I did inspect the muffler and couldn't see any cracks. 
I'm also sure it isn't coming in from the stern. The smell
is way tood strong as soon as you enter the master cabin.
Thanks again,
Paul
Affinity, 657
Bay Bridge Marina

----- Original Message ----
From: Bruce Heyman <bruceheyman at cox.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:32:25 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust

Paul,
I haven't dealt with that and I'm assuming you've inspected the water lift
muffler for any possible cracks, seems to be a common failure mode.? If you
have to build up the fitting coming out of the hose I'd look for some hose
that is ID 1.75" and OD 2.0".? Cut it the length of the fitting coming out
of the water lift muffler and then reinstall original hose with a couple of
hose clamps - tight.
Bruce
Somerset #671 SoCal

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rickman
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:41 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Exhaust

All,
?
I've been smelling exhaust inside the boat. I sent the elbow off for some
work, and after wards pressure tests say?there is
no leak. Reinstalled but I still have the problem. Yesterday I took out the
entire system, found some damage under the
clamps so I replaced the section between the elbow and the muffler. I cut
off about 1 1/2 inches of the section going
out the back. One thing I discovered is the exhaust hose is two inches but
the fitting on the back side of the muffler is
something less, probably 1 3/4. I reinstalled everything but I swear the
smell is still there. Tomorrow I plan to install
a CO2 DETECTOR. Can the muffler fitting be brought up to 2 inches, and how
would that be done? Or, can the 2 inch
hose be changed out to 1 3/4 without causing any problems. Has anyone dealt
with this?
?
Thanks,
?
Paul
Affinity, 657

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 00:24:58 +0000
From: bruceheyman at cox.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust
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Paul,
Couple of other thoughts.  We had a small fuel leak that created a very
strong smell in the aft cabin. Does running the exhaust fan help?
Bruce
Somerset 671 SoCal
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>

Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:16:03 
To:C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust

Bruce and Pat,
Thanks for your ideas. I like them.
I did inspect the muffler and couldn't see any cracks. 
I'm also sure it isn't coming in from the stern. The smell
is way tood strong as soon as you enter the master cabin.
Thanks again,
Paul
Affinity, 657
Bay Bridge Marina

----- Original Message ----
From: Bruce Heyman <bruceheyman at cox.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:32:25 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust

Paul,
I haven't dealt with that and I'm assuming you've inspected the water lift
muffler for any possible cracks, seems to be a common failure mode.? If you
have to build up the fitting coming out of the hose I'd look for some hose
that is ID 1.75" and OD 2.0".? Cut it the length of the fitting coming out
of the water lift muffler and then reinstall original hose with a couple of
hose clamps - tight.
Bruce
Somerset #671 SoCal

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rickman
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:41 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Exhaust

All,
?
I've been smelling exhaust inside the boat. I sent the elbow off for some
work, and after wards pressure tests say?there is
no leak. Reinstalled but I still have the problem. Yesterday I took out the
entire system, found some damage under the
clamps so I replaced the section between the elbow and the muffler. I cut
off about 1 1/2 inches of the section going
out the back. One thing I discovered is the exhaust hose is two inches but
the fitting on the back side of the muffler is
something less, probably 1 3/4. I reinstalled everything but I swear the
smell is still there. Tomorrow I plan to install
a CO2 DETECTOR. Can the muffler fitting be brought up to 2 inches, and how
would that be done? Or, can the 2 inch
hose be changed out to 1 3/4 without causing any problems. Has anyone dealt
with this?
?
Thanks,
?
Paul
Affinity, 657

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:31:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
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Don't know, I'll check to see if running the exhaust fan helps any at all.
Thanks

----- Original Message ----
From: "bruceheyman at cox.net" <bruceheyman at cox.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 8:24:58 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust

Paul,
Couple of other thoughts.? We had a small fuel leak that created a very
strong smell in the aft cabin. Does running the exhaust fan help?
Bruce
Somerset 671 SoCal
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>

Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:16:03 
To:C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust

Bruce and Pat,
Thanks for your ideas. I like them.
I did inspect the muffler and couldn't see any cracks. 
I'm also sure it isn't coming in from the stern. The smell
is way tood strong as soon as you enter the master cabin.
Thanks again,
Paul
Affinity, 657
Bay Bridge Marina

----- Original Message ----
From: Bruce Heyman <bruceheyman at cox.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:32:25 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust

Paul,
I haven't dealt with that and I'm assuming you've inspected the water lift
muffler for any possible cracks, seems to be a common failure mode.? If you
have to build up the fitting coming out of the hose I'd look for some hose
that is ID 1.75" and OD 2.0".? Cut it the length of the fitting coming out
of the water lift muffler and then reinstall original hose with a couple of
hose clamps - tight.
Bruce
Somerset #671 SoCal

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rickman
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:41 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Exhaust

All,
?
I've been smelling exhaust inside the boat. I sent the elbow off for some
work, and after wards pressure tests say?there is
no leak. Reinstalled but I still have the problem. Yesterday I took out the
entire system, found some damage under the
clamps so I replaced the section between the elbow and the muffler. I cut
off about 1 1/2 inches of the section going
out the back. One thing I discovered is the exhaust hose is two inches but
the fitting on the back side of the muffler is
something less, probably 1 3/4. I reinstalled everything but I swear the
smell is still there. Tomorrow I plan to install
a CO2 DETECTOR. Can the muffler fitting be brought up to 2 inches, and how
would that be done? Or, can the 2 inch
hose be changed out to 1 3/4 without causing any problems. Has anyone dealt
with this?
?
Thanks,
?
Paul
Affinity, 657

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:54:56 -0400
From: "warren updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com>
Subject: [C320-list]  Autohelm speedometer
To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
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Are you saying the whole unit came out with the black network and transducer
wires on the back; or, did the face of the instrument come off the back of
the instrument?

I believe the instrument is not intended to be held in-place by glue,
although the installer may have used silicone to seal the interface.  I
think on mine, there are small black thumb wheels with a threaded rod in the
center that are used to hold the unit tightly from behind.  Perhaps yours
were lost along the way and the "glue" was an expedient.  I may even have a
couple of those screws.  

My water temp too, doesn't register correctly - never did.  I recently had a
problem with intermittent operation of the speed transducer.  Since
Raymarine no longer supports the ST50 instruments I went to Airmar on the
internet and was able to purchase the paddle wheel replacement kit.  Airmar
was very helpful.  I can do without the water temp.

My ST50 Wind Instrument shows the direction just fine; but, the
apparent/true wind displays only very seldomly.  I attribute this to a bad
connection, probably at the mast/deck joint; but, have not yet done a
serious troubleshooting.  

I've recently had to repair the ST4000 auto pilot wheel ring, and that was
fun.  I had to remove the clutch handle that is held on with a "roll pin" or
some call them tensioning pins.  The smallest I could find is 1/16".  I
surmise, since the unit was built by Autohelm, a British company, that the
hole size in the clutch axel is probably 1.5mm, slightly smaller than 1/1
6".  After I drilled out the hole to 1/16", the roll pin went in rather
smoothly.  

Want to hear more?  Oh, the joy of owning a 15 year old sailboat.

I've accepted the fact that the auto pilot and instruments will have to be
replaced in the next 2-3 years, assured that at some point a needed ST50
part will just not be had.  I'm hoping by then the NEMA-2000 stuff will have
settled down and there will be ample choices.  The idea of a single network
cable with local drops is appealing.  The issue of connecting mast-head
transducer(s) needs more work.  I'll be watching the NEMA-2000 offerings at
the boat shows.

I get the daily e-mails from AskJackRabbit.com and find these very helpful
for following the new instrument news and other technical issues.  

Warren & Pattie Updke
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay

-----Original Message-----
When I went down to my boat today and pulled the plastic cover off of my
Autohelm speedometer, the unit came off of the pedestal, hanging by its
wires. It appears that the glue on the back just gave up. Is there anything
special about the glue holding the speedometer in? I'm a little shy about
putting something too serious on the back of it if it is ever necessary to
pull it out to access the wires to it.

Also, my outside water temperature gauge is stuck on 104 degrees. I can't
find my instructions, is there a way to reset this?

Thanks,

David Nolte
Beach House #4

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:01:53 -0400
From: "warren updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 114, Issue 2
To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
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Do you have an eye splice on that end of the line or do you just have a
short tail?  If the latter, has it never come loose?

Warren Updike
#62, Warr De Mar

----- Original Message -----
I use a cow hitch; 90' 7/16 Warpspeed.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <annie at sydneyprivatesailing.com.au>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Attaching jib sheets

> Both the boats I race on in Sydney have shackles spliced onto the jib 
> sheets. They seem to be special shackles for this purpose & have a piece 
> of velcro that wraps around them so they can't accidentally come undone. 
> However, suspect these shackles are expensive.
> Annie Bennett
> Topcat 1073
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: warren updike
> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: 4 Jun 2008 7:46 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] Attaching jib sheets
>
> How are people attaching jib sheets to the jib?  I've been using a 
> bowline;
> but, don't like it as it tends to catch on the shrouds on a tack.  I'm
> thinking about an anchor bend (fisherman's bend) and seizing the bitter 
> end
> to the working part.  Any better ideas?
>
>
> Warren & Pattie Updke
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:02:43 -0400
From: "Rick  Sulewski" <rsulewski at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320.......air conditioning
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Hi John,

We also found that a 16.5k BTU reverse cycle unit does the trick here on the
south side of Lake Erie.  We experience a fair amount of days that are 90+
degrees and over 90% humidity and yet we sail early spring and late into the
fall spending many nights each season in the Western Lake Erie Islands area.

We had the AC-heat unit mounted in the port side cockpit storage locker
right behind the bread box with the 4 x 8 inch teak air exit grill into the
main cabin above the bread box with a very short insulated vent pipe so
there is not loss of air temperature from the unit to the cabin. No need for
any other venting and the unit normally runs at the lowest fan setting
automatically with periodic cycles with the air and heat easily reaching
into the V-berth while cycling into the aft cabin to the return air.

By mounting the unit in the port side cockpit locker we found that the 14
inch square intake grill was now at our feet in the aft cabin rather than
having the compressor and fan noise and draft nearer our pillows if we
mounted the unit in the starboard aft corner locker.  In addition to the
noise reduction I may continue to access the storage as well as the fuel
tank in the starboard aft corner locker when I need to draw some fuel from
the bottom of the tank every few years to cut down on the sludge build-up. 

I did have the installer place a teak grill in the aft cabin door to allow
air to circulate to the intake grill.

I built a locker shelf over the unit so I retained a good amount of storage
in the port cockpit locker. We did not miss the loss of storage space in the
port side locker that was so deep and inconvenient to use since we often
stored common access items above longer term storage items that found there
way deeper in that locker and now we simply leave those items in a dock box.

Total cost ran around $3,700 for professionally installed Marine Air unit
with digital controls. Some 4 years ago Marine Air had the longest warranty
on the compressor.  

The AC/Heat unit was the best creature comfort addition to the boat since we
grew tired of hauling out the 5000 BTU CruiseAir unit that was totally
inadequate.  The cabin now cools in a matter of minutes instead of hours and
even when the companion way is left open.

Only regret is that we did not install the unit when we purchased the boat.

Rick
My-Ria 277

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BAdams3491 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:08 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320.......air conditioning

We are in Oklahoma, gets very hot and humid...therefore, 16,500 BTU reverse

cycle unit located under aft seat, starboard side.  Outlets in  main berth 
(coming in from the port locker), the largest is over the bread box,  and in

forward berth.  Ducting runs directly to the main birth and over the  
refrig...another line goes up under the storage tray that runs along the
port  side to the 
forward cabin.

Bert
At Ease
#442

In a message dated 6/3/2008 4:45:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
JFinch at pbgbuilders.com writes:

Has  anyone installed air conditioning in their C320?  If so, what size  
unit, and where did you locate the unit, and the duct work?  How  many
outlets, 
and where did you locate  those?

Thanks,

John Finch
"Iniki II"
1998  C320
Hull 530
Kentucky Lake
New owner, May  2008

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of warren  updike
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:47 PM
To:  c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Attaching jib  sheets

How are people attaching jib sheets to the jib?  I've been  using a bowline;
but, don't like it as it tends to catch on the shrouds on  a tack.  I'm
thinking about an anchor bend (fisherman's bend) and  seizing the bitter end
to the working part.  Any better  ideas?

Warren & Pattie Updke
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De  Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:21:41 -0400
From: "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Asymetric Chute Tack Block
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Hi,
Just back from a Chesapeake sail trying to using our asymetric chute.

We have the tack block mounted at the end of the anchor holder where the
bale is mounted to that captures the anchor.

We are running the tack line  INSIDE the pulpit to the block since it is aft
of the pulpit front and we feel that its not the best place.  And the tack
line rubs on the pulpit when the wind is light

1. Has anyone mounted a block on the front of the pulpit just above the bow
light?  I feel that the front of the pulpit is more forward than the anchor
roller and the tack line would not rub on the inside of the pulpit.

2. Is the pulpit strong enough to withstand the pull that a tack line will
have when the wind starts to gust or blow near 10 knots?

3. If anyone has done this, what kind of mounting did you use for the block
to keep it standing up?

Irv  Grunes
#851

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:55:37 -0700
From: "Denny Browne" <dennybrowne at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Asymetric Chute Tack Block
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I run my tack line from the tack of the sail inside the bow pulpit to a
block that's attached to the bail on the anchor roller (sounds like yours),
and back to the cockpit through a couple of padeyes. Also attached to the
tack is an ATN Tacker (http://www.atninc.com/tacker.html). The Tacker is a
plastic collar that slides up and down on the furled headsail, keeping the
tack of the sail from falling off to leeward as the tack line is eased for
sailing farther off the wind. The Tacker also keeps the tack line from
chafing on the bow pulpit and it keeps the sail away from the navigation
lights on the bow pulpit that I'm convinced are a serious threat to my
spinnaker. An alternative to the Tacker is the Parrel Bead solution from
Neil Pryde Sails (http://www.sailingsource.com/neilpryde/store/beads.htm). 

Denny Browne
A Cappella #935
Redondo Beach
denny at dennybrowne.com

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irving Grunes
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:22 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Asymetric Chute Tack Block

Hi,
Just back from a Chesapeake sail trying to using our asymetric chute.

We have the tack block mounted at the end of the anchor holder where the
bale is mounted to that captures the anchor.

We are running the tack line  INSIDE the pulpit to the block since it is aft
of the pulpit front and we feel that its not the best place.  And the tack
line rubs on the pulpit when the wind is light

1. Has anyone mounted a block on the front of the pulpit just above the bow
light?  I feel that the front of the pulpit is more forward than the anchor
roller and the tack line would not rub on the inside of the pulpit.

2. Is the pulpit strong enough to withstand the pull that a tack line will
have when the wind starts to gust or blow near 10 knots?

3. If anyone has done this, what kind of mounting did you use for the block
to keep it standing up?

Irv  Grunes
#851

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:59:52 -0700
From: "Denny Browne" <dennybrowne at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Attaching jib sheets
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <00ee01c8c5f7$71947d90$0201a8c0 at ALPHAMALESDESKT>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

You can put a 2-3" eye splice in the jib sheet and pass the line through the
clew, then through the eye splice and back to the turning block. There's a
right and left version of this that will be obvious when you do it. One way,
it hangs up on the shroud, the other way it doesn't. The only down side to
this is that you can't change jib sheets without a lot of aggravation
running the tail all the way forward, but it is cleaner.

Denny Browne
T: 310-383-9810
F: 310-316-0154
denny at dennybrowne.com

-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Burti
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:31 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Attaching jib sheets

Bowline...no problem catching...might be a timing issue. Try sheeting in a
little slower as the boat powers up.

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:46 PM, warren updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:

> How are people attaching jib sheets to the jib?  I've been using a
bowline;
> but, don't like it as it tends to catch on the shrouds on a tack.  I'm
> thinking about an anchor bend (fisherman's bend) and seizing the bitter
end
> to the working part.  Any better ideas?
>
>
> Warren & Pattie Updke
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
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Farmville, NC

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:16:53 -0700
From: <crashley at gte.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Install 'cigarette lighter' charger at
    ignition    switch housing
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
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That's what circuit breakers are for....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "warren updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com>
To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Install 'cigarette lighter' charger at ignition 
switch housing

> Bill, if you do use the nav power source, you should fuse the connector 
> with
> a 2 or 5A fuse and never use the connector for anything with a high draw:
> fan, air pump, etc.  Having a high draw on the nav circuit will cause the
> auto pilot and or instruments to reset.  The best approach is to tap the 
> hot
> side of the key switch and install a breaker in the engine dash.  That, 
> you
> can use for nearly any application.
>
>
> Warren & Pattie Updke
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Thanks for all the advice Paul and others. It sound better to connect to 
> the
> nav instruments power supply than the ignition switch. Where do I put the
> in-line fuse? Inside the housing of my ignition switch?
>
> Bill Sloane
> C-320 No. 554 'Endless  Summer'
> Olympia, Washington
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:03 AM, <Vpweikel at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I did this several years ago for the same reason.  Not hard or
>> complicated.
>> I used a small volt meter to find the battery side of the 12  volt
>> supply to the nav instruments.  I can check where I made the actual
>> connections next time I'm at the boat and let you know.  My GPS hooked
>> up  direct without having to use a "cigarette" style plug, but yours
>> would be  basically identical.
>> Make sure you put an in-line fuse in the  wiring.
>>
>>
>> Paul Weikel
>> Second Chance
>> #361
>> Georgetown, MD
>
> 

------------------------------

Message: 12
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:30:23 +0000
From: hcreech at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bow Nav Lights
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Message-ID:

<060420081030.26806.48466EBF000B223E000068B62215578674080C0A0A9D0C08 at comcast
.net>

Joe,
I ordered a replacement from Catalina, easy and inexpensive.
Sincerely,
Herb Creech
Cloud Chaser #606

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Joe Barrett" <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>
>  Anyone know the make & Model of the Bow Nav Lights? Mine broke when I hit
a
> dock.
> Joe Barrett
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
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> Joseph T. Barrett jr.
> Branch President
> joe at dolphincommercialcapital.com
> 9010 Strada Stell Court
> Suite 209
> Naples, Florida 34109
> 
> In The Vanderbilt Galleria 
> tel: 239-597-2266
> tel2:877-437-2262
> fax: 239-597-7276
> mobile: 239-777-1880
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> ------------------------------------
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
Winkler
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:45 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transporting Bicycles
> 
> IF, you don't have folding bikes check them out on ebay.  I just bought a
> 18" folding Dahan ?sp three speed for our new FL boat and it is GREAT!!
You
> could put four of them inside the main cockpit locker.
> If, you're in sea water area they sell an optional cover/carrying bag for
> the bikes that would offer protection.
> BTW. the bike I bought on ebay is a better bike then WM is selling for
same
> price.
> 
> Ralph H. Winkler
> Wind Dancer #394
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Quentin Murphy" <qmurphy at sympatico.ca>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transporting Bicycles
> 
> 
> > According to Gerry Douglas (Catalina Yachts), the main cockpit locker
will
> > hold a full-size bicycle, probably with the wheels and saddle removed.
> >
> > Quentin Murphy
> > Celtic Knot #667
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Chris Burti
> > Sent: June 3, 2008 11:29 AM
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transporting Bicycles
> >
> >
> > Get a couple of front fork mounts for a car top carrier and clamp them
to
> > the aft side of the top stern rail with stainless hose clamps. Hang the
> > bikes by the forks and stow the wheels in the port locker.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Joe Abbagnaro <jabbagna at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have ideas, or suggestions on the various ways to
> >> transport full size
> >> bikes ?  I was thinking I might be able to get some type of bracket
> >> and hang them off the stern rail. Not sure how feasible this would be.
> >> Any ideas or suggestions.
> >>
> >> Thank You
> >> #574
> >> Joe
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Chris Burti
> > Farmville, NC
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
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> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:26:47 +0000
From: bruceheyman at cox.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Asymetric Chute Tack Block
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Message-ID:

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Irv,
I would not trust the pulpit to take the shock loads that occur when the
spinaker collapses and then refills.  Also there are times when we are
sailing as hard on the wind as the sail will let us and you want the tack as
low as possible.
Bruce
Somerset 671 SoCal
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:21:41 
To:C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Asymetric Chute Tack Block

Hi,
Just back from a Chesapeake sail trying to using our asymetric chute.

We have the tack block mounted at the end of the anchor holder where the
bale is mounted to that captures the anchor.

We are running the tack line  INSIDE the pulpit to the block since it is aft
of the pulpit front and we feel that its not the best place.  And the tack
line rubs on the pulpit when the wind is light

1. Has anyone mounted a block on the front of the pulpit just above the bow
light?  I feel that the front of the pulpit is more forward than the anchor
roller and the tack line would not rub on the inside of the pulpit.

2. Is the pulpit strong enough to withstand the pull that a tack line will
have when the wind starts to gust or blow near 10 knots?

3. If anyone has done this, what kind of mounting did you use for the block
to keep it standing up?

Irv  Grunes
#851

------------------------------

Message: 14
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:40:23 +0000
From: bruceheyman at cox.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Install 'cigarette lighter'    chargerat
    ignition    switch housing
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Message-ID:

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While the circuit breaker will protect the line fro catastrophic failure
(fire) it will not insure that the instruments are seeing 12 volts.  It is
quite possible to place a additional current load at the helm that will not
trip the breaker but will cause a significant voltage drop across the line.
The result is your instruments could reset or go off line till the voltage
is restored.
The best but not the easiest solution is a separate circuit with the proper
gauge line.  Failing that a the addition of a fused socket that insures only
low current items are plugged in should keep the instruments running
reliably.
Bruce
Somerset 671 SoCal
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: <crashley at gte.net>

Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:16:53 
To:<C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Install 'cigarette lighter' charger
at    ignition    switch housing

That's what circuit breakers are for....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "warren updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com>
To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Install 'cigarette lighter' charger at ignition 
switch housing

> Bill, if you do use the nav power source, you should fuse the connector 
> with
> a 2 or 5A fuse and never use the connector for anything with a high draw:
> fan, air pump, etc.  Having a high draw on the nav circuit will cause the
> auto pilot and or instruments to reset.  The best approach is to tap the 
> hot
> side of the key switch and install a breaker in the engine dash.  That, 
> you
> can use for nearly any application.
>
>
> Warren & Pattie Updke
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Thanks for all the advice Paul and others. It sound better to connect to 
> the
> nav instruments power supply than the ignition switch. Where do I put the
> in-line fuse? Inside the housing of my ignition switch?
>
> Bill Sloane
> C-320 No. 554 'Endless  Summer'
> Olympia, Washington
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:03 AM, <Vpweikel at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I did this several years ago for the same reason.  Not hard or
>> complicated.
>> I used a small volt meter to find the battery side of the 12  volt
>> supply to the nav instruments.  I can check where I made the actual
>> connections next time I'm at the boat and let you know.  My GPS hooked
>> up  direct without having to use a "cigarette" style plug, but yours
>> would be  basically identical.
>> Make sure you put an in-line fuse in the  wiring.
>>
>>
>> Paul Weikel
>> Second Chance
>> #361
>> Georgetown, MD
>
> 

------------------------------

Message: 15
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:11:27 -0700
From: <crashley at gte.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Install 'cigarette lighter'    chargerat
    ignition    switch housing
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
    reply-type=original

Bruce,

While I agree that adding a low rating fuse to the additional power port 
will protect the instruments from a "brown out", I wouldn't think that 
anything plugged into the engine pod should be drawing a lot of current. The

problem with fuses is you need to carry spares in case one blows, which is 
why I would go with the breaker alone.

CRA
Rosebud #882

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Install 'cigarette lighter' chargerat ignition 
switch housing

> While the circuit breaker will protect the line fro catastrophic failure 
> (fire) it will not insure that the instruments are seeing 12 volts.  It is

> quite possible to place a additional current load at the helm that will 
> not trip the breaker but will cause a significant voltage drop across the 
> line.  The result is your instruments could reset or go off line till the 
> voltage is restored.
> The best but not the easiest solution is a separate circuit with the 
> proper gauge line.  Failing that a the addition of a fused socket that 
> insures only low current items are plugged in should keep the instruments 
> running reliably.
> Bruce
> Somerset 671 SoCal
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <crashley at gte.net>
>
> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:16:53
> To:<C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Install 'cigarette lighter' charger
> at ignition switch housing
>
>
> That's what circuit breakers are for....
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "warren updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Install 'cigarette lighter' charger at ignition
> switch housing
>
>
>> Bill, if you do use the nav power source, you should fuse the connector
>> with
>> a 2 or 5A fuse and never use the connector for anything with a high draw:
>> fan, air pump, etc.  Having a high draw on the nav circuit will cause the
>> auto pilot and or instruments to reset.  The best approach is to tap the
>> hot
>> side of the key switch and install a breaker in the engine dash.  That,
>> you
>> can use for nearly any application.
>>
>>
>> Warren & Pattie Updke
>> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
>> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Thanks for all the advice Paul and others. It sound better to connect to
>> the
>> nav instruments power supply than the ignition switch. Where do I put the
>> in-line fuse? Inside the housing of my ignition switch?
>>
>> Bill Sloane
>> C-320 No. 554 'Endless  Summer'
>> Olympia, Washington
>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:03 AM, <Vpweikel at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> I did this several years ago for the same reason.  Not hard or
>>> complicated.
>>> I used a small volt meter to find the battery side of the 12  volt
>>> supply to the nav instruments.  I can check where I made the actual
>>> connections next time I'm at the boat and let you know.  My GPS hooked
>>> up  direct without having to use a "cigarette" style plug, but yours
>>> would be  basically identical.
>>> Make sure you put an in-line fuse in the  wiring.
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Weikel
>>> Second Chance
>>> #361
>>> Georgetown, MD
>>
>>
>
>
> 

------------------------------

Message: 16
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:15:25 -0400
From: Michael Ferguson <coralman at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320.......air conditioning
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <C46C29CD.2DFB%coralman at bellsouth.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="ISO-8859-1"

I have a Mermaid 16500 installed starboard side above the fuel tank. Control
panel at nav station and intake in aft birth with hole cut direct to unit.
Vents are above refrig and port side cabin wall and in head behind sink.
Would do 12500 if to do over so my 2000 honda would run it. Now I have to
use 2 hondas for starting it.
Michael
Nauti Clew 169

On 6/3/08 6:05 PM, "Paul Rickman" <ilove2sail at verizon.net> wrote:

> Two 8K condenser units, one in the port side of the V-berth, with two air
> outlets, one to the saloon, the other to the V-birth. Air intake is also
on
> the port side of the back portion of the V-berth next to the door.
> ?
> The other unit is on the starboard side aft, in the locker. Air intake
right
> on the other side of the unit in the master cabin.. Two outlets, one in
the
> master cabin and one in the head. Works really well, keeps the boat cool
and
> warm when needed. The only complaint is
> the noise, it is right by your head when you sleep. At least one A/C
person
> told me it was over done. But I don't think so.
> ?
> Paul
> Affinity, 657
> Bay Bridge Marina
> ?
> ?
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: John Finch <JFinch at pbgbuilders.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com; c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 5:45:23 PM
> Subject: [C320-list] C320.......air conditioning
> 
> Has anyone installed air conditioning in their C320?? If so, what size
unit,
> and where did you locate the unit, and the duct work?? How many outlets,
and
> where did you locate those?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> John?Finch
> "Iniki II"
> 1998 C320
> Hull 530
> Kentucky Lake
> New owner, May 2008
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of warren
updike
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:47 PM
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Attaching jib sheets
> 
> How are people attaching jib sheets to the jib?? I've been using a
bowline;
> but, don't like it as it tends to catch on the shrouds on a tack.? I'm
> thinking about an anchor bend (fisherman's bend) and seizing the bitter
end
> to the working part.? Any better ideas?
> 
> 
> Warren & Pattie Updke
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> c320-list-request at lists.catalina320.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 4:07 PM
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> Subject: C320-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 1
> 
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:49:27 -0400
From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320.......air conditioning
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Message-ID: <0F12817B-A759-495F-81D0-AFF53D6A9500 at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

We've thought of A/C; haven't jumped yet.  As I follow this thread, I  
have some questions of my own.
Doesn't the Honda 2000 generator make about as much noise as the A/C  
units in question?
How long does a tank of generator fuel last when running such an A/C  
unit?  Overnight?
Why use a generator at all, unless you're on a mooring?

Bob
Intuition 906

On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Michael Ferguson wrote:

> I have a Mermaid 16500 installed starboard side above the fuel tank.  
> Control
> panel at nav station and intake in aft birth with hole cut direct to  
> unit.
> Vents are above refrig and port side cabin wall and in head behind  
> sink.
> Would do 12500 if to do over so my 2000 honda would run it. Now I  
> have to
> use 2 hondas for starting it.
> Michael
> Nauti Clew 169
>
>
> On 6/3/08 6:05 PM, "Paul Rickman" <ilove2sail at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Two 8K condenser units, one in the port side of the V-berth, with  
>> two air
>> outlets, one to the saloon, the other to the V-birth. Air intake is  
>> also on
>> the port side of the back portion of the V-berth next to the door.
>>
>> The other unit is on the starboard side aft, in the locker. Air  
>> intake right
>> on the other side of the unit in the master cabin.. Two outlets,  
>> one in the
>> master cabin and one in the head. Works really well, keeps the boat  
>> cool and
>> warm when needed. The only complaint is
>> the noise, it is right by your head when you sleep. At least one A/ 
>> C person
>> told me it was over done. But I don't think so.
>>
>> Paul
>> Affinity, 657
>> Bay Bridge Marina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: John Finch <JFinch at pbgbuilders.com>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com; c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 5:45:23 PM
>> Subject: [C320-list] C320.......air conditioning
>>
>> Has anyone installed air conditioning in their C320?  If so, what  
>> size unit,
>> and where did you locate the unit, and the duct work?  How many  
>> outlets, and
>> where did you locate those?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> John Finch
>> "Iniki II"
>> 1998 C320
>> Hull 530
>> Kentucky Lake
>> New owner, May 2008
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of  
>> warren updike
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:47 PM
>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Attaching jib sheets
>>
>> How are people attaching jib sheets to the jib?  I've been using a  
>> bowline;
>> but, don't like it as it tends to catch on the shrouds on a tack.  
>> I'm
>> thinking about an anchor bend (fisherman's bend) and seizing the  
>> bitter end
>> to the working part.  Any better ideas?
>>
>>
>> Warren & Pattie Updke
>> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
>> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>> c320-list-request at lists.catalina320.com
>> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 4:07 PM
>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>> Subject: C320-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 1
>>
>> Send C320-list mailing list submissions to
>>    c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
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