[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 34, Issue 1
Chuck and Kathy
katchu at chartermi.net
Mon Mar 10 16:17:42 PDT 2008
We had good luck with Sunsail a few years ago. Three couples on a Beneteau
46 that was less than three years old. I think that they have moved their
base since we were there. We provisioned most of the food ourselves,
planning to get off the boat most evenings to sample the local restaurants.
Chuck Mueller
#676 Northwind
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
c320-list-request at lists.catalina320.com
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:31 PM
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: C320-list Digest, Vol 34, Issue 1
Send C320-list mailing list submissions to
c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://lists.catalina320.com/listinfo.cgi/c320-list-catalina320.com
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
c320-list-request at lists.catalina320.com
You can reach the person managing the list at
c320-list-owner at lists.catalina320.com
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of C320-list digest..."
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Lewmar Wheel - was Pedestal ICOM command mike (Allan S Field)
2. Re: Sailboat Owners Survey (Bruce Stanley)
3. Chartering in the Carribean (Kirk McCullough)
4. Re: Chartering in the Carribean (donauw at bellsouth.net)
5. Re: Chartering in the Carribean (Jon Vez)
6. Re: Chartering in the Carribean (SYC)
7. Re: Chartering in the Carribean (Jeff Hare)
8. Stainless Steel Drive Shaft (Kurt Budelmann)
9. Re: Stainless Steel Drive Shaft (Jon Vez)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:48:00 -0500
From: "Allan S Field" <allan.field at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Lewmar Wheel - was Pedestal ICOM command mike
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Message-ID:
<20080309214853.688E919AFA3 at spunkymail-mx4.g.dreamhost.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Your issue is different. My edson is tight & secure & has benn for 6 years.
Suggest you communicate with edson.
Allan S. Field
Sent from my Treo PDA.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Bruce Stanley" <brucestanley36 at gmail.com>
Subj: Re: [C320-list] Lewmar Wheel - was Pedestal ICOM command mike
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:29 pm
Size: 2K
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Allan ...the Edson Wobble
is due to loose joins where the spokes join the hub.
I will try tightening the hub wheel lock, but I am sure this will not fix
this Edson Wobble.
Thanks for the suggestions
Bruce Stanley #1084
Sydney Australia
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Allan S. Field <allan.field at comcast.net>
wrote:
> Hi Bruce - Yes, the first wheel failed where the spokes were welded to the
> hub of the wheel. Lewmar stood behind this problem 100%, already
> recognizing that this was a weak link in the design. Mine was not the
> first
> failure. They redesigned the hub and it was obvious from the second wheel
> that this problem had been resolved. The welds were perfect.
>
> But the first and second wheel both had an additional problem. The wheel
> folds at 4 joints and it was these joints that had way too much tolerance
> designed in, creating a considerable amount of wobble that I never had
> with
> the Edson wheel. I am surprised that you note wobble in the Edson wheel;
> is
> the locking hub screwed down tight? It will back-off a little over time
> and
> periodically needs to be tightened. Perhaps that is the issue with yours?
>
> Orlando's wheel did not have the wobble at the 4 folding joints. Either
> he
> is fortunate or Lewmar again redesigned the thing to take out the wobble.
> I
> was quite pleased with the feel of Orlando's wheel (Lord, what have I
> opened
> myself up for here?!?!). But I don't plan on getting a third wheel and
> trying it out. The concept is great, the execution times 2 has not been
> good for me, so I am content to stay with the Edson.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sea Shadow - #808
> Columbia, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Stanley
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:57 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Lewmar Wheel - was Pedestal ICOM command mike
>
> Hi Allan
>
> Edson Helms on the recent C320s (mine and at least 3 others) are indeed
> wobbly.
> I have that Lewmar Helm on my WANT list, even my NEED LIST.
> I am amazed at your experiences.
> Your photo on the C320 site shows a beautifully designed, folding Lewmar
> Helm.
> That it proved a dud in your 2 attempts !!! ... has me lost for words,
> and is a very big disappointment!
>
> I do appreciate knowing that first.
> Was the problem in the 4 folding 'hinge' areas, or where the spokes join
> the
> hub?
> Was Orlando's Helm identical to yours?
>
> Thanks for keeping us in the know,
> Bruce Stanley C320 #1084/Fantastic Lady
> Sydney Australia
>
> PS the Turks Head knot in the photo has inspired me to do the same ;o>
>
>
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:09:32 +1100
From: "Bruce Stanley" <brucestanley36 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Sailboat Owners Survey
To: C320-List at catalina320.com, "Karl Mielenhausen _/)"
<c320 at suddenlink.net>
Message-ID:
<9d5459ff0803091509v362e938dtbb428a7a4aab7ba6 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi Karl
Thanks for pointing out the Survey.
Bruce Stanley / C320 #1084 / Sydney Australia
Comments I made it the SAILBOAT Owners survey:
------------
Firstly the overall design is brilliant. This is shown in good hull speeds,
sail and rigging plans, and a cockpit which is not just functional, it is
also a pleasure to be in (the 2 aft seats are a distinctive plus to
Catalina). To this you can equally enjoy the interior design ... living,
galley, sleeping, and head areas. Equally so are the main accessories: ie
Yanmar engine; size of primary and secondary Winches.
When one buys a new boat it is also a great comfort and an incredible
benefit to have an active and informed Users Group. Catalina C320
International Association has been a major, repeat MAJOR, source of my
confidence and pleasure in owning our C320.
Dealers can make or break a product line and Catalina cannot let their
product suffer when this part of the deal falls short. Again, this is where
the C320IA offers invaluable backup and confidence building. Yes I would buy
a C320 again and genuinely recommend them.
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Karl Mielenhausen _/) <c320 at suddenlink.net>
wrote:
> Most of us really appreciate the features and performance of our C320's.
>
> Here is your opportunity to weigh in and let others know how good you
> think our boats are:
>
>
http://mm.sailboatowners.com/12all/lt/t_go.php?i=562&e=MjMxODk=&l=-http--sur
vey.sailboatowners.com
>
> A good word about the value of this list and the owners' association
> wouldn't hurt either!!! We did get a favorable mention in the recent Sail
> magazine review, which was gratifying.
>
> --
> Karl Mielenhausen
> Catalina 320 Hull 690
> New Bern, NC
>
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:57:19 -0700
From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Chartering in the Carribean
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.org>
Message-ID: <000c01c88273$9a6aa770$6401a8c0 at Family>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
This is a non C320 topic, hopefully its alright with people.
We are planning a charter maybe to the BVI or USVI. I know some of you have
chartered in the Carribean and I'm looking for general input from those of
you who have. There will be 6 of us and I'm thinking a 40 something
catamaran would work well.
What charter companies have people used, any bad/good experiences with the
charter companies. Any input on good locations etc.
Kirk
#124
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:29:31 +0000
From: donauw at bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chartering in the Carribean
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Message-ID:
<031020081029.5612.47D50D8A000BE4E6000015EC22216125569B0A02D2089B9A019C04040
A0DBF999A0E02010B at att.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
We've chartered twice with the Moorings in the BVI and had good experiences
both times. Nice base, well organized, very effecient. Boats seemed well
maintained. Sailing in the BVI is fun - everything is close by. Their
provisioning is excellent.
Favorites spots include White Beach, Jost Van Dyke, Cooper Island (if you
have divers - the RMS Rhone is an excellent dive and the dive operations
will pick you up at Cooper), Leverick Bay on Virgin Gorda also very nice.
Also, have chartered with the Moorings in St. Martin. Good experience
there, as well.
Regards,
Don Dixon
Stargazer, #605
Washington Island, WI
Big Pine Key, FL
-------------- Original message from "Kirk McCullough"
<kirk.mccullough at telus.net>: --------------
>
>
> This is a non C320 topic, hopefully its alright with people.
>
> We are planning a charter maybe to the BVI or USVI. I know some of you
have
> chartered in the Carribean and I'm looking for general input from those of
you
> who have. There will be 6 of us and I'm thinking a 40 something catamaran
would
> work well.
>
> What charter companies have people used, any bad/good experiences with the
> charter companies. Any input on good locations etc.
>
> Kirk
> #124
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:15:18 -0400
From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chartering in the Carribean
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c882a8$68a6fd30$39f4f790$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The BVI is an outstanding Charter destination--much more to do (sail,
anchor, eat, dive etc) in the BVI vs the USVI. It's really a matter of
having to check in with immigration as you can throw a stone at St. Thomas
from Sopers hole--We've used a couple of companies--but I would recommend
the Moorings. More pricey than others, but usually better, newer and clean
boats. The only issue I had with them was when we chartered a Cat in the
Bahamas last year we lost one of the props on the last day. They tried to
hold me at fault. There standard policy is that it comes back the way it
checked out. However I argued that since there was no sign of hitting
anything (there wasn't a sheared hub for example), it clearly fell off and
therefore I argued it was a maintenance related issue. Bottom line is we
ended up having to split the difference..although we did dive every day and
therefore saw the props, it wasn't something like checking the engines every
morning--
I'd highly recommend a catamaran--it's the only thing we'll charter now...we
have a mono, so we know what those are like ;) We had a 40 for 2 couples and
it was perfect...depends how close you are to the third couple as to whether
you want to consider something a bit larger. No matter who you go with make
sure you do a thorough review of the boat before you leave and point it out
the company before you leave--just like when you rent a car. We've found
plenty of issues that needed to be addressed before we left over the years.
Much more pleasurable to do this at the dock rather than wait for the
maintenance boat to come out to you and ruin your day!
Enjoy,
Jon Vez
Solstice #582
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
McCullough
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:57 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: [C320-list] Chartering in the Carribean
This is a non C320 topic, hopefully its alright with people.
We are planning a charter maybe to the BVI or USVI. I know some of you have
chartered in the Carribean and I'm looking for general input from those of
you who have. There will be 6 of us and I'm thinking a 40 something
catamaran would work well.
What charter companies have people used, any bad/good experiences with the
charter companies. Any input on good locations etc.
Kirk
#124
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:51:06 -0400
From: "SYC" <sail at sweetwater-charters.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chartering in the Carribean
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <004101c882ad$68821dd0$6b01a8c0 at JOAN>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
I agree with the others, the BVI is a great place to charter. I also go with
Moorings; they are a large company so they have good support in place (any
problems and they can usually get it fixed fast). They are a bit more
expensive but you can sometimes get a boat that is a little older (3-5
years) at a better rate. One note: if this is your first time in the BVI
they might not let you go to Anegada (it is the only island in the group
that you can't physically see from the other islands).
If you go, I highly recommend flying into St. Thomas and then taking the
ferry to Tortola. Flying into Tortola is considered an international flight
(and all the fun that entails). Also you will have an easier time coming
back through customs in the USVI (and your duty-free allowance on purchases
is much higher). A side note: the currency in the BVI is the US dollar.
Now you've got me thinking about going back!
Joan
#90 Persistence
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
McCullough
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:57 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: [C320-list] Chartering in the Carribean
This is a non C320 topic, hopefully its alright with people.
We are planning a charter maybe to the BVI or USVI. I know some of you have
chartered in the Carribean and I'm looking for general input from those of
you who have. There will be 6 of us and I'm thinking a 40 something
catamaran would work well.
What charter companies have people used, any bad/good experiences with the
charter companies. Any input on good locations etc.
Kirk
#124
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:58:10 -0400
From: "Jeff Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chartering in the Carribean
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c882ae$66c4c0f0$344e42d0$@com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
If the Moorings is slightly over your budget, Footloose is right next door.
After a couple years in the moorings fleet, the boats go over to the
Footloose fleet. ...but there are many good and some bad charter companies
down there.
You should contact http://www.ed-hamilton.com/ yacht charter agent. They're
a state-side (Maine) company who will take care of managing all the
logistics of a Carribean yacht charter trip for you and your crowd. There's
*zero* cost to you, and they frequently can get you a better price on
whatever you're after. They take care of handling all the paperwork and
mail packets to you and everyone in your party letting you know the status
on payments, and any changes that may occur. (like flight changes, or a
boat substitution, whatever).
They have people down there who know and can check into the actual boats and
companies you want to chartering and make suggestions based on what you
want. They don't work for any particular outfit, but rather with all of
them, so you can still be chartering through any outfit you want. If you
have a problem, be it with flights, the boat, services, provisioning, or
anything related to the trip, you have one point of contact who will take
care of it. I can't say enough good things about them.
The Rhone is also a great Night Dive for those who like seeing a whole
different set of sea creatures in action!
-Jeff Hare
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
donauw at bellsouth.net
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 6:30 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chartering in the Carribean
We've chartered twice with the Moorings in the BVI and had good experiences
both times. Nice base, well organized, very effecient. Boats seemed well
maintained. Sailing in the BVI is fun - everything is close by. Their
provisioning is excellent.
Favorites spots include White Beach, Jost Van Dyke, Cooper Island (if you
have divers - the RMS Rhone is an excellent dive and the dive operations
will pick you up at Cooper), Leverick Bay on Virgin Gorda also very nice.
Also, have chartered with the Moorings in St. Martin. Good experience
there, as well.
Regards,
Don Dixon
Stargazer, #605
Washington Island, WI
Big Pine Key, FL
-------------- Original message from "Kirk McCullough"
<kirk.mccullough at telus.net>: --------------
>
>
> This is a non C320 topic, hopefully its alright with people.
>
> We are planning a charter maybe to the BVI or USVI. I know some of you
have
> chartered in the Carribean and I'm looking for general input from those of
you
> who have. There will be 6 of us and I'm thinking a 40 something catamaran
would
> work well.
>
> What charter companies have people used, any bad/good experiences with the
> charter companies. Any input on good locations etc.
>
> Kirk
> #124
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:35:01 -0400
From: "Kurt Budelmann" <krbmd77 at charter.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Stainless Steel Drive Shaft
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <002601c882bb$ece00a20$9a01a8c0 at lchcs.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Anyone know offhand the diameter of the SS shaft in boats just before the MK
II debuted?
__
Kurt Budelmann
Everwind, Catalina 320, #1035
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:17:41 -0400
From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stainless Steel Drive Shaft
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c882c1$e35ef7d0$aa1ce770$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
One inch...
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Budelmann
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:35 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Stainless Steel Drive Shaft
Anyone know offhand the diameter of the SS shaft in boats just before the MK
II debuted?
__
Kurt Budelmann
Everwind, Catalina 320, #1035
End of C320-list Digest, Vol 34, Issue 1
****************************************
More information about the C320-list
mailing list