[C320-list] Pedestal ICOM command mike

Tue Mar 4 12:25:22 PST 2008

Thanks Rollie, see you at the Conquistador Regatta in Punta Gorda Florida
this weekend?
Joe 

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-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Gates
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:23 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pedestal ICOM command mike

Joe,
I have my RAM mike where you do and it works fine, but I do more listening
than talking -- which does involve a 2-3' port reach to grab the mike. 
Rollie  #182
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com>
To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pedestal ICOM command mike

> Joe,
> We had it there when we got #851. It was a pain in the a--, to get to it.
> We had it moved to the pedestal, starboard side of instrument pod.
> Had it done professionally.
> Can't imagine how they did it but its so much more convenient.
> Irv Grunes #851
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Joe Barrett <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Soooo much easier to mount it just under the lid for the propane tank.
>> Straight run down to the interior VHF. Very accessible from the helm 
>> and a much easier install. If I remember correctly I did not need a 
>> cable extension though I could be wrong on that.
>> Joe Barrett
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
>> Culbertson
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:09 AM
>> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Pedestal ICOM command mike
>>
>> You'll definitely love having the command mike at the pedestal and as 
>> others have said it is definitely more complicated that other 
>> locations.  IMO it's worth it.
>>
>> What I did was somewhat less complicated than Allan. I'd read his 
>> first and decided to see if I could try the engine pod.  It worked so 
>> I stuck with it.
>> What I did the same as Allan is to buy the extension as well as cut 
>> the cable.  I bought a terminal block same as he did and reconnected 
>> the cut ends via the terminal block except that I mounted mine under 
>> the aft berth next to the fresh water pump.
>>
>> What I did differently was run the cut cable end through the tube to 
>> the engine pod and mount the connector on that small flat section of 
>> the pod on the port side.  I clip the mike up high just under the 
>> sailing instruments.
>> I had hoped that cutting the cable end would allow me to thread the 
>> cable up the engine pod stainless tube without further ado.  Turns 
>> out, it just won't go.  So I disconnected the engine wiring pulled it 
>> down into the aft cabin while messengered from the pod.  Then I 
>> inserted the cut cable end from inside the engine pod and threaded 
>> that down the tube into the aft cabin.
>> When I ran out of cable, I had the connector end ready to mount into 
>> the hole in the pod I'd already drilled for it.
>>
>> Disconnecting the engine wiring sounds scary but actually there is a 
>> terminal block inside the pod connecting the incoming cable harness 
>> to the various engine instruments.  So you are really just undoing 
>> the wires from the harness side of the terminal block.  With one 
>> exception, they are all uniquely color coded and the color code of 
>> the harness wire exactly matches the color code of its mate on the 
>> terminal block.  I labeled the one which didn't match its mate.  So 
>> for reassembly, you need only match the cable harness wire color code 
>> to the wire left attached to the instrument side of the terminal 
>> block.
>>
>> Once the harness wires are disconnected, I gathered them together, 
>> tied the messenger line into place with a series of half hitches 
>> spaced an inch apart and then spiral wrapped the whole thing with 
>> electrical tape.  There was probably an 8" length that was taped.  My 
>> son helped me with him below in the aft cabin gently pulling the 
>> cable (I'd removed the access cover from the aft cabin roof) and me 
>> up in the cockpit pushing/feeding it into the tube.  I can't remember 
>> if I sent the command-mike cable down as part of this operation or if 
>> I fed it down separately after the engine cable harness was removed 
>> from the tube.
>> Regardless, you end up with the engine cable in the aft cabin and the 
>> cut end of the command mike in the aft cabin.  I secured the radio 
>> cable and my son and I fed the engine cable back into the tube him 
>> pushing on the cable and me pulling on the messenger.  I think I 
>> slathered joy dishwashing detergent on the engine cable harness to 
>> ease the process since it was now rubbing against the command mike 
>> cable on its way back into the pod.
>> Once
>> it was in the pod I unraveled the tape and messenger and reconnected 
>> each wire to its mate on the terminal block.
>>
>> For the mike cable, I ziptied it every 12-18" or so to existing 
>> wiring that was exiting the pedestal guard and fed it under the aft 
>> berth (easy).  As I said before, I mounted a terminal block to the 
>> board on which the fresh water pump is mounted and connected the free 
>> wires to that block.  I connected the other end of this cut cable to 
>> the terminal block and connected the connector to the 2nd intact 10' 
>> command mike cable from ICOM.
>> I ran that one under the fridge and under the stove (access by 
>> removing the teak "thingy" under the
>> stove) and fed up to the navpanel.  I've run lots of cabling from the 
>> navpanel to the under- the-stove area so that part was pretty 
>> familiar already.  One of those was a cat5 cable that I had managed 
>> to squeeze into the port-side of the pedestal as Al Ahlman 
>> recommends.
>> I'd done that in an earlier wiring project.  That cable brings 
>> seatalk from the pedestal instruments back to an ST60 Multi unit on 
>> the navpanel
>>
>> One last note.  For mounting the mike itself to the pedestal I 
>> borrowed an idea either from this list or from a dock mate or from a 
>> sailing magazine.
>> I bought a broom handle mount at the hardware store.  These clips 
>> expect something about 1" in diameter.  I screwed the broom handle 
>> clip to a small piece of plywood and screwed the mike connector to 
>> the opposite side of the plywood.  Now you just clip the mike to its 
>> connector and clip the broom handle clip directly to the 1" pedestal 
>> tube anywhere you like.  I tend to keep it just below the 
>> instruments.  But if I later put another navpod below the instruments 
>> for radar, I'll just clip it to another part of the pedestal tube.
>>
>> I have a bunch of pics of the process.  I should upload them to the 
>> website.
>>
>>  -bill
>>  Harmony #859
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Chuck and Kathy <katchu at chartermi.net>
>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>> Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 6:38:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 1
>>
>> Thanks for all the help.  Allen - I particularly appreciate knowing 
>> that the Icom cable won't fit without cutting it.  That will save me 
>> a lot of time.
>>
>>
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