[C320-list] Pedestal ICOM command mike

Wed Mar 5 07:47:49 PST 2008

Mine mounts under the Propane Lid and winds thru the Lazerette. Never enters
the Propane locker.
Joe Barrett

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-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Stanley
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:00 AM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pedestal ICOM command mike

12volts in the propane locker.......... it sounds potentially dangerous to
me!?

Bruce Stanley #1084
Sydney Australia

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Allan S. Field <allan.field at comcast.net>
wrote:

> I had it mounted under the lid to the propane tank for about 2 years also.
> I found that I was constantly knocking the mic off of the bracket and 
> always had to be on the port side to talk as the cable is not that 
> long.  I always felt as if I was going to pull the thing out of the 
> mount.  That is why I eventually went with the "harder" install and 
> have never regretted the work that went into making it right for me.
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sea Shadow - #808
> Columbia, Md
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
> Barrett
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:06 AM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pedestal ICOM command mike
>
> Soooo much easier to mount it just under the lid for the propane tank.
> Straight run down to the interior VHF. Very accessible from the helm 
> and a much easier install. If I remember correctly I did not need a 
> cable extension though I could be wrong on that.
> Joe Barrett
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
> Culbertson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:09 AM
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Pedestal ICOM command mike
>
> You'll definitely love having the command mike at the pedestal and as 
> others have said it is definitely more complicated that other 
> locations.  IMO it's worth it.
>
> What I did was somewhat less complicated than Allan. I'd read his 
> first and decided to see if I could try the engine pod.  It worked so 
> I stuck with it.
> What I did the same as Allan is to buy the extension as well as cut 
> the cable.  I bought a terminal block same as he did and reconnected 
> the cut ends via the terminal block except that I mounted mine under 
> the aft berth next to the fresh water pump.
>
> What I did differently was run the cut cable end through the tube to 
> the engine pod and mount the connector on that small flat section of 
> the pod on the port side.  I clip the mike up high just under the 
> sailing instruments.
> I had hoped that cutting the cable end would allow me to thread the 
> cable up the engine pod stainless tube without further ado.  Turns 
> out, it just won't go.  So I disconnected the engine wiring pulled it 
> down into the aft cabin while messengered from the pod.  Then I 
> inserted the cut cable end from inside the engine pod and threaded 
> that down the tube into the aft cabin.
> When I ran out of cable, I had the connector end ready to mount into 
> the hole in the pod I'd already drilled for it.
>
> Disconnecting the engine wiring sounds scary but actually there is a 
> terminal block inside the pod connecting the incoming cable harness to 
> the various engine instruments.  So you are really just undoing the 
> wires from the harness side of the terminal block.  With one 
> exception, they are all uniquely color coded and the color code of the 
> harness wire exactly matches the color code of its mate on the 
> terminal block.  I labeled the one which didn't match its mate.  So 
> for reassembly, you need only match the cable harness wire color code 
> to the wire left attached to the instrument side of the terminal 
> block.
>
> Once the harness wires are disconnected, I gathered them together, 
> tied the messenger line into place with a series of half hitches 
> spaced an inch apart and then spiral wrapped the whole thing with 
> electrical tape.  There was probably an 8" length that was taped.  My 
> son helped me with him below in the aft cabin gently pulling the cable 
> (I'd removed the access cover from the aft cabin roof) and me up in 
> the cockpit pushing/feeding it into the tube.  I can't remember if I 
> sent the command-mike cable down as part of this operation or if I fed 
> it down separately after the engine cable harness was removed from the 
> tube.
> Regardless, you end up with the engine cable in the aft cabin and the 
> cut end of the command mike in the aft cabin.  I secured the radio 
> cable and my son and I fed the engine cable back into the tube him 
> pushing on the cable and me pulling on the messenger.  I think I 
> slathered joy dishwashing detergent on the engine cable harness to 
> ease the process since it was now rubbing against the command mike 
> cable on its way back into the pod.  Once it was in the pod I 
> unraveled the tape and messenger and reconnected each wire to its mate 
> on the terminal block.
>
> For the mike cable, I ziptied it every 12-18" or so to existing wiring 
> that was exiting the pedestal guard and fed it under the aft berth 
> (easy).  As I said before, I mounted a terminal block to the board on 
> which the fresh water pump is mounted and connected the free wires to 
> that block.  I connected the other end of this cut cable to the 
> terminal block and connected the connector to the 2nd intact 10' 
> command mike cable from ICOM.
> I ran that one under the fridge and under the stove (access by 
> removing the teak "thingy" under the
> stove) and fed up to the navpanel.  I've run lots of cabling from the 
> navpanel to the under- the-stove area so that part was pretty familiar 
> already.  One of those was a cat5 cable that I had managed to squeeze 
> into the port-side of the pedestal as Al Ahlman recommends.
> I'd done that in an earlier wiring project.  That cable brings seatalk 
> from the pedestal instruments back to an ST60 Multi unit on the 
> navpanel
>
> One last note.  For mounting the mike itself to the pedestal I 
> borrowed an idea either from this list or from a dock mate or from a
sailing magazine.
> I bought a broom handle mount at the hardware store.  These clips 
> expect something about 1" in diameter.  I screwed the broom handle 
> clip to a small piece of plywood and screwed the mike connector to the 
> opposite side of the plywood.  Now you just clip the mike to its 
> connector and clip the broom handle clip directly to the 1" pedestal 
> tube anywhere you like.  I tend to keep it just below the instruments.  
> But if I later put another navpod below the instruments for radar, 
> I'll just clip it to another part of the pedestal tube.
>
> I have a bunch of pics of the process.  I should upload them to the 
> website.
>
>  -bill
>  Harmony #859
>
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> From: Chuck and Kathy <katchu at chartermi.net>
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> Thanks for all the help.  Allen - I particularly appreciate knowing 
> that the Icom cable won't fit without cutting it.  That will save me a 
> lot of time.
>
>