[C320-list] flat screen LCD
Pat Moriarty
patm at psiurethanes.com
Mon Mar 31 08:12:32 PDT 2008
That is a positive thought that I second.
Pat
At 10:06 AM 3/31/2008, you wrote:
>I try to not allow kids on my boat... :)
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> "Warren Updike"
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> 03/31/2008 04:07
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>Do you have grand kids come aboard who watch DVDs? Sticky fingers, snot,
>ear wax and scratches from having been used in the making of sand castles
>are not positive markers for DVD longevity.
>
>Warren & Pattie Updike
>C320, #62, 1994, "Warr De Mar"
>Frog Mortar Creek, Middle River
>Chesapeake Bay
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Allan S. Field" <allan.field at comcast.net>
>To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:45 AM
>Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
>
>
> > We are on our second flat screen LCD DVD-TV. The first one gave up the
> > ghost after only 2 years; it was the DVD assembly that stopped working.
> > The
> > repair was more than the cost of a new one. But I don't know if it was
> > the
> > marine environment that caused this. The new one has been on board for
> > about 3 seasons now but does come home in the winter. I left a Canon
>AE-1
> > camera on board for only two weeks about 15 years ago - the repair job
>to
> > that puppy was enormous. The first thing the guy said when he opened up
>
> > the
> > camera was, "Has this been in a marine environment?"
> >
> > Allan S. Field
> > Sea Shadow - #808
> > Columbia, MD 21046
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Hare
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:21 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
> >
> > Technology evolves so fast... Coming from the high speed PC design
> > analysis
> > business, most PC-Boards made for these sorts of consumer products have
>a
> > conformal coating over them just to prevent copper corrosion and protect
>
> > the
> > traces from the air, but don't have all the soldered terminal
>connections
> > coated. Some companies require specialty coatings over everything after
> > assembly as Chris mentioned.
> >
> > My guess here is that by the time you start having problems because of
> > salt
> > air, your grand-kids will be laughing at that antique dinosaur of a TV
> > you're sporting on your boat.
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris
>Block
> > ..._/)...._/}...
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:28 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
> >
> > I work for an electronics manufacturer and we do conformal coating for
> > some
> > of our customers. I wonder if the risk of opening the back of a flat
> > screen
> >
> > and having it coated is worth the risk?
> >
> > Amore 139
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Seastream" <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
> >
> >
> >> Some might be concerned regarding the effect of salt air on the
>internal
> >> circuit boards. Most such boards have a conformal coating, making
>that
> >> concern moot.
> >> Battery contacts, antenna connections, and some of the TV controls (do
> >> TV's even have control 'knobs' anymore?) may be of some minor concern.
> >> To date, we've had two computers, a car stereo, and a handheld GPS
>unit
> >> aboard, without problems. None were 'marine' units.
> >> Although the computers currently serve for DVD's, we'll likely install
> >> an
> >
> >> LCD TV onboard some day. It won't be a 'marine' unit. We'll just pay
> >> our money and take our chances. If 'marine' units are so necessary,
>how
> >> can computers, TV's, stereos, etc survive in the houses and cars of
> >> people that work and reside along the shore?
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> On Mar 28, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> On cuba libre 2 I had a 13" Magnavox that I would put on the nav
>table
> >>> and use just the rabbit ears. Used for 6 years, left on the boat all
>of
> >>> the time (salt water environment), never had a problem.
> >>>
> >>> On cuba libre 3 I have 2- 20" flat screen lcds w/ dvd player along
>with
> >>> a flat screen 13" at the nav station to network my E120 chart plotter
> >>> (no dvd), almost 2 years now, again, no problems so far
> >>> ----------------------------------
> >>> Regards,
> >>> OD
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Warren Updike" [wupdike at hotmail.com]
> >>> Sent: 03/28/2008 05:01 PM
> >>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
> >>>
> >>> We bought a Sylvania 15" lcd W/dvd, $300. It is mounted over the nav
> >>> table on a swing-out double jointed wall-mount bracket. We run it on
>a
> >>> 400W inverter that plugs in with a typical 12V lighter plug. A
>bigger
> >>> inverter may require larger cables and direct battery attachment.
> >>> Within 15-20 mi. of major cities, Balt. Wash. DC, we get 2+ channels
> >>> with a bow tie antenna inside the boat. Beyond that reception is
>catch
> >>> as catch can. We use it mainly for DVDs. Other than weather, I
> >>> couldn't care less for most programs. In the Winter, we bring the TV
> >>> home and use it in the guest room. So far, two seasons, it has been
> >>> fine.
> >>>
> >>> Having said all that, the Chesapeake Bay is considered inland waters,
> >>> mostly fresh above the Bay Bridge, and not at all deleterious to
> >>> equipment. In salty environments, especially on the open ocean, all
> >>> bets could be off. Otherwise, we have been very happy with the
> >>> arrangements.
> >>>
> >>> Warren & Pattie Updike
> >>> C320, #62, 1994, "Warr De Mar"
> >>> Frog Mortar Creek, Middle River
> >>> Chesapeake Bay
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane & Ken"
><obuoy4848 at sbcglobal.net
> >>> >
> >>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> >>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:58 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> All T.V. 320 owners,
> >>>> With the demise of analog signals for tv's, we decided to replace
>our
> >>>> trusted color set, purchased new at the time of delivery of hull
> >>>> number
> >
> >>>> 219, with a new digital set flat screen. I especially enjoyed John
> >>>> Frost's information concerning his set.
> >>>> When we went to the big box showroom to purchase the set--we were
>told
> >>>> in no uncertain terms that the warrantee would be void if we
>installed
> >>>> the set in a boat!! We asked why, and were told that the marine
> >>>> environment is death to all the new sets available today--I
>explained
> >>>> that our current set had been in operation since 1994 and still
>worked
> >>>> fine--He said he had several customers who installed new sets and
>the
> >>>> picture "tube" died in less than a year.
> >>>>
> >>>> I find this strange, but would appreciate any 'real life' experience
> >>>> from folk who have had either "flat" or even "plasma" screens in
>their
> >>>> boats for over a year--other boats in our marina have 'new' sets but
> >>>> have not complained about premature deaths. Our sales person
> >>>> recommended only a specific tv designed for marine environments,
>which
> >>>> he did not sell--so I suppose he was not a "bait and switch" person.
> >>>>
> >>>> Since we have until next Feburary, if someone has a problem in a
> >>>> couple
> >
> >>>> of months, I would appreciate knowing about it. We keep the boat at
> >>>> Lake Texoma, halfway between OKLA. CITY and DALLAS.
> >>>> Thanks in advance, Ken Cathey, OBUOY #219
> >>>>
> >>>> John Frost <john at frostnet.net> wrote:
> >>>> Sorry, Bill...my memory fails me on that one. I do remember that it
> >>>> was
> >>>> difficult to judge the brackets in their packaging. The one I kept
>has
> >>>> good
> >>>> friction elements on the hinges that you can set as tight as you
>like
> >>>> with
> >>>> an Allen wrench. I think that is important. So is robustness and
> >>>> folding
> >>>> very flat. The big boxes don't seem to mind me trying a few out.
> >>>>
> >>>> John Frost
> >>>> 2007 C320 MKII, Hull # 1118
> >>>> Lake Guntesville, AL
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> >>>> Culbertson
> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:34 AM
> >>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
> >>>>
> >>>> As long as we're asking you about model numbers, can you provide
> >>>> make/model
> >>>> of the mount you chose too? It seems like a good find.
> >>>>
> >>>> -bill
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> From: John Frost
> >>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:07:08 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
> >>>>
> >>>> It was a Panasonic "HD Widescreen LCD TV/DVD Combo" Model 1513-TDXB
> >>>> Circuit City has it for $240.
> >>>>
> >
>http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Polaroid-15-4-LCD-HDTV-1511-TLXB/sem/rpsm/oid
>
> >>>> /175907/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
> >>>>
> >>>> It fit like a glove and left a little room on the shelf below for
> >>>> miscellaneous things. I'll send a picture to Jerry and Irving.
> >>>>
> >>>> John Frost
> >>>> 2007 C320 MKII, Hull # 1118
> >>>> Lake Guntesville, AL
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
> >>>> Brown
> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:05 AM
> >>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi John
> >>>>
> >>>> I am also looking to outfit a MKII with a small flat screen in the
> >>>> same
> >>>> location. What model Panasonic is it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Jerry Brown
> >>>> Indigo #1137
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Frost"
> >>>> To: "'C320-List'"
> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:36 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Sig
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At risk of revealing my cruising versus racing bent, I'll give you
>my
> >>>>> thoughts. I am still outfitting my MKII and had the same question.
> >>>>> You
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> several choices to include three bulkheads and under either side
> >>>>> combing.
> >>>>> To
> >>>>> avoid the back of heads bumping into the tv, we chose to mount over
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> new
> >>>>> hanging locker on the port bulkhead, similar to Stan but higher.
>This
> >>>>> won't
> >>>>> allow a monster size, but it is completely out of the way and is
> >>>>> simple to
> >>>>> wire back to home base. To pick the actual unit, I took the exact
> >>>>> dimensions
> >>>>> to all my local stores and climbed in back of the units to find the
> >>>>> ones
> >>>>> that had an external power supply, AKA "wall wart". These allow you
>
> >>>>> to
> >
> >>>>> use
> >>>>> 12 volts DC without using an inverter by simply splicing into the
> >>>>> power
> >>>>> supply cable. (Funny, no one at the stores knew that)Out of the
> >>>>> dozens
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> I examined, I found one that exactly fit the space, ran on 12v and
> >>>>> had
> >
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> DVD
> >>>>> internal. It was a Panasonic. It also will take computer input and
> >>>>> play
> >>>>> from
> >>>>> memory cards/sticks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Next came the mount. I ended up buying 5 or 6 candidates and taking
> >>>>> them
> >>>>> all
> >>>>> to the boat. One stood out as obviously more robust and flatter so
>it
> >>>>> stayed. Some had advised us to mount directly on the bulkhead to
> >>>>> avoid
> >>>>> flopping on a tack, but we found most of the screens we looked at
> >>>>> completely
> >>>>> washed out if viewed from below the horizontal. The mount we went
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> allows pulling the unit close to the seating positions for that "big
> >>>>> screen
> >>>>> feeling" and then firmly stows.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lastly, I am now wiring the sound output into my stereo to make
>Jimmy
> >>>>> Buffet
> >>>>> DVDs sound like he is there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, back to the moving thru the water with gusto stuff.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Frost
> >>>>> 2007 C320 MKII, Hull # 1118
> >>>>> Lake Guntesville, AL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.org
> >>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.org] On Behalf Of Stanley
> >>>>> Rogacevicz
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:28 AM
> >>>>> To: c320-list at catalina320.org
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] flat screen LCD
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sig,
> >>>>> You can see my in/through bulkhead installation at
> >>>>> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/album62/DSC00477 I ran it off a
> >>>>> 1000 watt inverter live to all AC outlets to handle the microwave
> >>>>> also.
> >>>>> Stan
> >>>>> (formerly) Christy Leigh
> >>>>> #656
> >>>>> Wickford/Narragansett Bay RI
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Sigmund Ancerewicz MD" 1/30/2008 6:01 PM >>>
> >>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>> I'll be taking delivery of a mkII hull #1129 about May 1st. On my
>old
> >>>>> C28
> >>>>> #120, I had a 19" LCD flat panel running off 120 V which I used
> >>>>> dockside
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> got amazingly good over the air HD reception using just rabbit
>ears.
> >>>>> My
> >>>>> question: Of those who have a TV what size, make, AC or DC and
> >>>>> location do
> >>>>> you recommend. Any special pre-wiring that I should be doing now
> >>>>> before
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> initial launch.
> >>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sig Ancerewicz
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
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