[C320-list] Galley Cabinet Latch Replacement
Peggy Penridge
ptpen at earthlink.net
Wed May 21 19:14:16 PDT 2008
Thanks, Myron---you are very kind. I have already purchased them through
our local Marine supply company.
Peggy Penridge
Wetted Bliss #441
Titusville, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Myron Welch
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:47 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley Cabinet Latch Replacement
Peggy,
If you are still in need of a galley cabinet latch, I may be able to
help. I have one on the door that was removed for the microwave. I
also changed the latches to the newer twist kind and may have three
of the old latches at the boat, but I will not be there until June 11.
If you send me your address, I will be happy to send this one to you.
If you need more, I will check at the boat and send the rest if
located.
Myron Welch
Wind Instrument #238
Iowa City, Iowa
>Does anyone know where to get a replacement for the older galley cabinet
>latch. It is a black plastic rocker-type finger latch.
>
>Thanks,
>Peggy
>
>Wetted Bliss
>Hull # 441
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Robert E.
>Sloat
>Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:20 AM
>To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Compression Release and Hand Cranking Startup
>
>
>Per the Yanmar owner's manual, the compression release can be used to
assist
>in circulation of lubricating oil through the engine prior to start up
>after winter storage. Just turn the releases on, pull out the fuel shut
off
>and crank the engine until the oil pressure light goes out. This gets the
>engine lubricated before the strain of startup at the high compression
loads
>of the diesel. I do this when the boat is first launched after the long
>winter layup. Then off with the compression releases and normal startup.
>
>The fresh water Yanmar 3GM30F has the sea water belt in the way of the
>manual cranking gear so the hand cranking to start up with the compression
>releases on is not easily possible. Also, there is a cover over the
>cranking gear held in place by 2 small screws. I have often thought about
>taking the cover off to confirm that the cranking gear is there (like on
the
>non-fresh water 3GM30). If so, then the challenge would be to try to
locate
>the Yanmar crank accessory. The owner's manual goes through the drill of
>starting the engine by hand cranking. And by removal of the gear cover and
>simply loosening the sea water pump belt there is another option for
>emergency startup from battery or starter failure. Also, if the starter
>fails, batteries don't help.
>
>Bob Sloat
>Savannah 894
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Monte B." <mjbc60 at sbcglobal.net>
>To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 11:44 AM
>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Yes. If the batteries are strong enough to turn the engine over with the
>> compression releases activated you can start the engine. If there is
>> enough
>> to get the engine started then there should be enough for alternator
field
>> excitation and you will also be able to charge your batteries. A
dedicated
>> start battery gets around this issue, though I don't have one and have
>> never
>> had to use the compression release technique so I can't tell you what is
>> enough voltagewise. Be sure the fuel cut off is not pulled before you
use
>> the last of those batteries. Happy starting!
>>
>> Monte
>> Laima #620
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Barrett
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:31 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>
>>
>> So if your batteries are really low you could still possibly get the
boat
> > started this way?
>> Joe
>>
>> ------------------------------------
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>> Joseph T. Barrett jr.
>> President
>> joe at dolphincommercialcapital.com
>> 9010 Strada Stell Court
>> Suite 209
>> Naples, Florida 34109
>>
>> In The Vanderbilt Galleria
>> tel: 239-597-2266
>> tel2:1-800-264-4119
>> fax: 239-597-7276
>> mobile: 239-777-1880
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>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Monte B.
>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:10 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> The Yanmar's have three little lever's on the port side of the valve
>> cover.
>> When flipped to stern they lift the exhaust valve (I think it's the ex.)
>> anyway it is a true compression release and allows the engine to spin up
>> under no compression load. This takes two people or a starter jumper.
Open
>> the compression release levers, spin up the engine, close the
compression
>> release levers one at a time and the first firing cylinder will drag the
>> rest to life. If all else fails this info. is in the Yanmar service
>> manual.
>>
>> Monte
>> Laima #620
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Barrett
>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:18 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>
>> And just HOW would one do that?
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>> Dolphin Commercial Capital
>> Joseph T. Barrett jr.
>> President
>> joe at dolphincommercialcapital.com
>> 9010 Strada Stell Court
>> Suite 209
>> Naples, Florida 34109
>>
>> In The Vanderbilt Galleria
>> tel: 239-597-2266
>> tel2:1-800-264-4119
>> fax: 239-597-7276
>> mobile: 239-777-1880
>> www.dophincommercialcapital.com
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Ed Heyman
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:45 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>
>> The Yanmar can be started by releasing the compression on 2 of the
>> cylinders. The battery jumper can then spin the engine. Once the single
>> cylinder is firing you can engage the compression on the other two
>> cylinders.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>
>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> You'll need very large, IE) high output battery jumper pack to turn
>>> over the diesel engine. Not all of the automotive jumper packs will
>>> start our engines.
>>>
>>> Kirk
>>> Boomerang #124
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe
>>> Abbagnaro
>>> Sent: 22 April 2008 06:02
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>>From the records I have of the Previous Owner , one battery was
>>>>replaced in
>>> 06/2004 the other in 07/2005. I am using a Digital Multi Meter to
>>> check voltages at the batteries. Looks like I will be taking along a
>>> Battery Jumper pack for the trip home, and hopefully will resolve this
>>> issue by the weekend.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Hare has also posted some excellent wiring diagrams on the 320
>>>> web site. One thing you can also look at is the date of the
>>>> batteries. There should be a sticker on the top of them indicating
>>>> the month/year. If they are originals, I suspect you may have
>>>> weak/dying batteries. Even if
>>> resting
>>>> voltage is 12.4 this doesn't indicate they can take the deep charge
>>>> the starter imposes on them. I also have a 99 and mine died after
> >>> season
>> 5.
>>> I'm
>>>> the original owner and took very careful care of the batteries. I
>>>> now
>>> have
>>>> AGM's and a Xantrex charger. Finally, if you are relying on the
>>>> voltage meter on the boat's electrical panel you will find it is not
>>>> a very
>>> accurate
>>>> way to determine actual battery help. A multimeter is the best way
>>>> to get
>>> a
>>>> real sense of the state of the batteries. Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jon Vez
>>>> Solstice #582
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> crashley at gte.net
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:01 AM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> I happen to be an electrical engineer but this sounds very
mysterious.
>>>> If
>>>> the battery switch is wired per the C320 diagram I have (Catalina
>>>> drawing
>>> #
>>>> 320-73002-10, I can send you copy if you want), then when the
>>>> battery selector switch is in position 1 and the motor will start it
>>>> makes absolutely no sense that the distribution panel is not powered
>> properly.
>>> (By
>>>>
>>>> the way, does the engine start in the OFF position? This might
>>>> explain
>>>> something.) It's hard to imagine a bad selector switch or a bad
>>>> battery could cause this problem. I suspect the wiring has been
>>>> reconfigured somehow. I would start with trying to verify that the
>>>> wiring is per the drawing I referenced earlier. Also, try to verify
>>>> that the battery
>>> grounds
>>>> are connected together with a very low resistance (i.e., large
cable).
>>> Good
>>>> luck and I'm interested in eventually knowing what the story is.
>>>>
>>>> CRA
>>>> Rosebud #882
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Monte B." <mjbc60 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Joe,
>>>> >
>>>> > The place I would start is trying to determine the age of the
>>> batteries.
>>>> > The
>>>> > life expectancy of these batteries runs the gamut depending on how
>>>> you
>>> use
>>>> > them and maintain them. If you are in the battery business, (you
>>>> own a > boat) > get a commercial grade battery hydrometer to assess
>>>> cell state of
>>> charge.
>>>> > The specific gravity reading of the electrolyte roughly equates to
>>>> the > state > of charge, I.E. 1240 = 12.4 volts. If after a full
>>>> charge the readings > vary > by .2 or more you need to equalize the
>>>> batteries. Throw away the > promariner > charger and get a Xantrex
>>>> as it has an equalize mode. By the way, my > promariner also failed
>>>> in the full charge mode and fried 2 4D
>>> batteries.
>>>> > (8d,s wont go in the boxes without mods). The S.G. or state of
>>>> charge
>>> will
>>>> > not reveal capacity but as batteries age capacity always suffers
>>>> due to > sulfation on the plates. The equalize mode counteracts this
>>>> phenomena
>>> to a
>>>> > degree. If your batteries are three or more years old they have
>>>> done
>>> well
>>>> > and they may not be shot but will suffer from reduced capacity.
>>>> Five or > more > years and it is time to recycle from a reliability
>>>> standpoint. I cannot > comment on the boat wiring, but it sounds
>>>> like you may have a battery
>>> with
>>>>
>>>> > a
>>>> > shorted cell.
>>>> >
>>>> > Monte
>>>> > Laima #620
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of >
>>>> BAdams3491 at aol.com > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:33 PM > To:
>>>> C320-List at Catalina320.com > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help /
>>>> Confused ?
>>>> >
>>>> > Good advice.
>>>> >
>>>> > Bert
>>>> > At Ease
>>>> > #442
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > In a message dated 4/21/2008 5:10:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>> > Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com writes:
>>>> >
>>>> > If this is your first experience with deep cycle batteries (or
> >>> 12V > systems > on a boat), go to www.amazon.com and order this
>>>> book, it's an
>>> invaluable
>>>> > source of information on the subject.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Boatowner's Mechanical & Electrical Manual: How to Maintain,
>>>> Repair,
>>> and
>>>> > Improve Your Boat's Essential Systems (Hardcover) > by Nigel
>>>> Calder (Author) > > > > > "Joe Abbagnaro"
>>>> > <jabbagna at gmail.
>>>> > com> To
>>>> > Sent by: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>> > c320-list-bounce cc
> >>> > s at lists.catalina
>>>> > 320.com Subject
>>>> > Re: [C320-list] Battery Help /
>>>> > Confused ?
>>>> > 04/21/2008 03:05
>>>> > PM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Please respond
>>>> > to
>>>> > C320-List at Catali
>>>> > na320.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Bert
>>>> >
>>>> > Why do you say the battery is 75% discharged.?
>>>> > A 12 volt battery at rest I thought usually displays 12.2 - 12.4
>>>> volts > when not being charged, while being chrarged it is usually
>>>> 14 + volts
>>>> > and shorly after being charged 13+ volts and will eventually
>>>> > stabalize to 12.2 - 12.4.
>>>> >
>>>> > This is my first experience with deep cycle batteries so if I am
>>>> wrong > than let me know.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks
>>>> >
>>>> > Joe
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Bob
>>>> >
>>>> > The batteries are not orginals one was replced in 2005 and one in
>>> 2006,
>>>> > The chrger is the original a Flyback Promariner that makes a lot
>>>> of > noise, > which might need to be replaced.
>>>> >
>>>> > Joe
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Robert Seastream >
>>>> <robert.seastream at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >> And if the batteries are originals, depending on their care and
>>> feeding
>>>> >> under the PO, it may be time for replacement.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Bob Seastream
>>>> >> Intuition # 906
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Apr 21, 2008, at 3:29 PM, BAdams3491 at aol.com wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Part of the problem is the 12.4 volts...that's about 75%
>>>> capacity.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Bert
>>>> >> > At Ease
>>>> >> > #442
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:27:21 A.M. Central Daylight
>>>> Time, >> > jabbagna at gmail.com writes:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Hi
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I have a 1999 320 Hull 574, I bought the boat from the
>>>> original > owner.
>>>> >> > It has 2 Batteries , NO Dedicated start battery. So I am
pretty
>>>> > confident
>>>> >> > the wiring is original from the factory. Both batteries are
>>> reading
>>>> >> > about 12.4 volts but I have no way to load test them. My
>>>> problem
>>> has
>>>> >> > me confused.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > 1) Select battery 1 Engine starts but no other accessories
>>>> will > work.
>>>> >> > If I turn on the map light it comes on at less than half
>>>> light >> > than fades off after a second or so
>>>> >> > to no light at all. Almost looks like a feed back condition
>>>> >> > through the light.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > 2) Select Battery 2 Engine will NOTt start, but all the
>>> Accessories
>>>> >> > will work when powered on.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > 3) Select ALL and Engine starts all Accessories work.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Do I have a bad Battery, or possibly a Bad selector switch.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Joe
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
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>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
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