[C320-list] Helm Seat and Engine Latch Replacement

Chris Block ..._/)...._/}... chris_block at comcast.net
Thu May 22 05:38:27 PDT 2008


While speaking of latches, does anyone have a good source for the rubber 
latches that hold down the engine covers? Are they all the same? part 
number?

Chris
Amore #139


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Tyler" <ptyler4 at sc.rr.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley Cabinet Latch Replacement


> Myron,
> Where did you find the twist type latch.  I have one that's broken. 
> Thanks
> Pat
> Jannie T 834
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Myron Welch" <myron-welch at uiowa.edu>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: 05/21/2008 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley Cabinet Latch Replacement
>
>
>> Peggy,
>>
>> If you are still in need of a galley cabinet latch, I may be able to 
>> help. I have one on the door that was removed for the microwave.  I also 
>> changed the latches to the newer twist kind and may have three of the old 
>> latches at the boat, but I will not be there until June 11.
>>
>> If you send me your address, I will be happy to send this one to you. If 
>> you need more, I will check at the boat and send the rest if located.
>>
>> Myron Welch
>> Wind Instrument #238
>> Iowa City, Iowa
>>
>>
>>
>>>Does anyone know where to get a replacement for the older galley cabinet
>>>latch.  It is a black plastic rocker-type finger latch.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Peggy
>>>
>>>Wetted Bliss
>>>Hull # 441
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Robert E.
>>>Sloat
>>>Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:20 AM
>>>To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Compression Release and Hand Cranking Startup
>>>
>>>
>>>Per the Yanmar owner's manual, the compression release can be used to 
>>>assist
>>>in circulation of lubricating oil through  the engine prior to start up
>>>after winter storage.  Just turn the releases on, pull out the fuel shut 
>>>off
>>>and crank the engine until the oil pressure light goes out.  This gets 
>>>the
>>>engine lubricated before the strain of startup at the high compression 
>>>loads
>>>of the diesel.  I do this when the boat is first launched after the long
>>>winter layup. Then off with the compression releases and normal startup.
>>>
>>>The fresh water Yanmar 3GM30F has the sea water belt in the way of the
>>>manual cranking gear so the hand cranking to start up with the 
>>>compression
>>>releases on is not easily possible.  Also, there is a cover over the
>>>cranking gear held in place by 2 small screws.  I have often thought 
>>>about
>>>taking the cover off to confirm that the cranking gear is there (like on 
>>>the
>>>non-fresh water 3GM30).  If so, then the challenge would be to try to 
>>>locate
>>>the Yanmar crank accessory.  The owner's manual goes through the drill of
>>>starting the engine by hand cranking.  And by removal of the gear cover 
>>>and
>>>simply loosening the sea water pump belt there is another option for
>>>emergency startup from battery or starter failure.  Also, if the starter
>>>fails, batteries don't help.
>>>
>>>Bob Sloat
>>>Savannah 894
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Monte B." <mjbc60 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 11:44 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>
>>>
>>>>  Joe,
>>>>
>>>>  Yes. If the batteries are strong enough to turn the engine over with 
>>>> the
>>>>  compression releases activated you can start the engine. If there is
>>>>  enough
>>>>  to get the engine started then there should be enough for alternator 
>>>> field
>>>>  excitation and you will also be able to charge your batteries. A 
>>>> dedicated
>>>>  start battery gets around this issue, though I don't have one and have
>>>>  never
>>>>  had to use the compression release technique so I can't tell you what 
>>>> is
>>>>  enough voltagewise. Be sure the fuel cut off is not pulled before you 
>>>> use
>>>>  the last of those batteries. Happy starting!
>>>>
>>>>  Monte
>>>>  Laima #620
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>  [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
>>>> Barrett
>>>>  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:31 AM
>>>>  To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  So if your batteries are really low you could still possibly get the 
>>>> boat
>>>  > started this way?
>>>>  Joe
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------------
>>>>  Dolphin Commercial Capital
>>>>  Joseph T. Barrett jr.
>>>>  President
>>>>  joe at dolphincommercialcapital.com
>>>>  9010 Strada Stell Court
>>>>  Suite 209
>>>>  Naples, Florida 34109
>>>>
>>>>  In The Vanderbilt Galleria
>>>>  tel: 239-597-2266
>>>>  tel2:1-800-264-4119
>>>>  fax: 239-597-7276
>>>>  mobile: 239-777-1880
>>>>  www.dophincommercialcapital.com
>>>>  ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>  > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Monte 
>>> B.
>>>>  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:10 PM
>>>>  To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>>  Joe,
>>>>
>>>>  The Yanmar's have three little lever's on the port side of the valve
>>>>  cover.
>>>>  When flipped to stern they lift the exhaust valve (I think it's the 
>>>> ex.)
>>>>  anyway it is a true compression release and allows the engine to spin 
>>>> up
>>>>  under no compression load. This takes two people or a starter jumper. 
>>>> Open
>>>>  the compression release levers, spin up the engine, close the 
>>>> compression
>>>>  release levers one at a time and the first firing cylinder will drag 
>>>> the
>>>>  rest to life. If all else fails this info. is in the Yanmar service
>>>>  manual.
>>>>
>>>>  Monte
>>>>  Laima #620
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>  [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
>>>> Barrett
>>>>  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:18 AM
>>>>  To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>>  And just HOW would one do that?
>>>>  Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------------
>>>>  Dolphin Commercial Capital
>>>>  Joseph T. Barrett jr.
>>>>  President
>>>>  joe at dolphincommercialcapital.com
>>>>  9010 Strada Stell Court
>>>>  Suite 209
>>>>  Naples, Florida 34109
>>>>
>>>>  In The Vanderbilt Galleria
>>>>  tel: 239-597-2266
>>>>  tel2:1-800-264-4119
>>>>  fax: 239-597-7276
>>>>  mobile: 239-777-1880
>>>>  www.dophincommercialcapital.com
>>>>  ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>  [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Ed 
>>>> Heyman
>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:45 PM
>>>>  To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>>  The Yanmar can be started by releasing the compression on 2 of the
>>>>  cylinders. The battery jumper can then spin the engine. Once the 
>>>> single
>>>>  cylinder  is firing you can engage the compression on the other two
>>>>  cylinders.
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
>>>>  To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:54 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>  You'll need very large, IE) high output battery jumper pack to turn
>>>>>  over the diesel engine. Not all of the automotive jumper packs will
>>>>>  start our engines.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Kirk
>>>>>  Boomerang #124
>>>>>
>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>>  From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>>  [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe
>>>>>  Abbagnaro
>>>>>  Sent: 22 April 2008 06:02
>>>>>  To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>>>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Jon
>>>>>
>>>>>>From the records I have of the Previous Owner , one battery was
>>>>>>replaced in
>>>>>  06/2004  the other in 07/2005.  I am using a Digital Multi Meter to
>>>>>  check voltages at the batteries. Looks like I will be taking along a
>>>>>  Battery Jumper pack for the trip home, and hopefully will resolve 
>>>>> this
>>>>>  issue by the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>  Joe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Jeff Hare has also posted some excellent wiring diagrams on the 320
>>>>>>  web  site. One thing you can also look at is the date of the
>>>>>>  batteries. There  should be a sticker on the top of them indicating
>>>>>>  the month/year. If they  are originals, I suspect you may have
>>>>>>  weak/dying batteries. Even if
>>>>>  resting
>>>>>>   voltage is 12.4 this doesn't indicate they can take the deep charge
>>>>>>  the  starter imposes on them. I also have a 99 and mine died after
>>>  >>> season
>>>>  5.
>>>>>  I'm
>>>>>>   the original owner and took very careful care of the batteries. I
>>>>>>  now
>>>>>  have
>>>>>>   AGM's and a Xantrex charger. Finally, if you are relying on the
>>>>>>  voltage  meter on the boat's electrical panel you will find it is 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>  a very
>>>>>  accurate
>>>>>>   way to determine actual battery help. A multimeter is the best way
>>>>>>  to get
>>>>>  a
>>>>>>   real sense of the state of the batteries. Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Jon Vez
>>>>>>   Solstice #582
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>  >>>  From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>>>   [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  crashley at gte.net
>>>>>>   Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:01 AM
>>>>>>   To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>>>   Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Joe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I happen to be an electrical engineer but this sounds very 
>>>>>> mysterious.
>>>>>>  If
>>>>>>   the battery switch is wired per the C320 diagram I have (Catalina
>>>>>>  drawing
>>>>>  #
>>>>>>   320-73002-10, I can send you copy if you want), then when the
>>>>>>  battery  selector switch is in position 1 and the motor will start 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>  makes  absolutely no sense that the distribution panel is not 
>>>>>> powered
>>>>  properly.
>>>>>  (By
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   the way, does the engine start in the OFF position? This might
>>>>>>  explain
>>>>>>   something.) It's hard to imagine a bad selector switch or a bad
>>>>>>  battery  could cause this problem. I suspect the wiring has been
>>>>>>  reconfigured  somehow. I would start with trying to verify that the
>>>>>>  wiring is per the  drawing I referenced earlier. Also, try to verify
>>>>>>  that the battery
>>>>>  grounds
>>>>>>   are connected together with a very low resistance (i.e., large 
>>>>>> cable).
>>>>>  Good
>>>>>>   luck and I'm interested in eventually knowing what the story is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   CRA
>>>>>>   Rosebud #882
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>   From: "Monte B." <mjbc60 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>   To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>>   Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:56 PM
>>>>>>   Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   > Joe,
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > The place I would start is trying to determine the age of the
>>>>>  batteries.
>>>>>>   > The
>>>>>>   > life expectancy of these batteries runs the gamut depending on 
>>>>>> how
>>>>>>  you
>>>>>  use
>>>>>>   > them and maintain them. If you are in the battery business, (you
>>>>>>  own a  > boat)  > get a commercial grade battery hydrometer to 
>>>>>> assess
>>>>>>  cell state of
>>>>>  charge.
>>>>>>   > The specific gravity reading of the electrolyte roughly equates 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>  the  > state  > of charge, I.E. 1240 = 12.4 volts. If after a full
>>>>>>  charge the readings  > vary  > by .2 or more you need to equalize 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>  batteries. Throw away the  > promariner  > charger and get a Xantrex
>>>>>>  as it has an equalize mode. By the way, my  > promariner also failed
>>>>>>  in the full charge mode and fried 2 4D
>>>>>  batteries.
>>>>>>   > (8d,s wont go in the boxes without mods). The S.G. or state of
>>>>>>  charge
>>>>>  will
>>>>>>   > not reveal capacity but as batteries age capacity always suffers
>>>>>>  due to  > sulfation on the plates. The equalize mode counteracts 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>  phenomena
>>>>>  to a
>>>>>>   > degree. If your batteries are three or more years old they have
>>>>>>  done
>>>>>  well
>>>>>>   > and they may not be shot but will suffer from reduced capacity.
>>>>>>  Five or  > more  > years and it is time to recycle from a 
>>>>>> reliability
>>>>>>  standpoint. I cannot  > comment on the boat wiring, but it sounds
>>>>>>  like you may have a battery
>>>>>  with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   > a
>>>>>>   > shorted cell.
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Monte
>>>>>>   > Laima #620
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>   > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>>>   > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of  >
>>>>>>  BAdams3491 at aol.com  > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:33 PM  > To:
>>>>>>  C320-List at Catalina320.com  > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help /
>>>>>>  Confused ?
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Good advice.
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Bert
>>>>>>   > At Ease
>>>>>>   > #442
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > In a message dated 4/21/2008 5:10:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>>>  > Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com writes:
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > If this  is your first experience with deep cycle batteries (or
>>>  >>> 12V  > systems  > on a  boat), go to www.amazon.com and order this
>>>>>>  book, it's an
>>>>>  invaluable
>>>>>>   > source  of information on the subject.
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Boatowner's Mechanical &  Electrical Manual: How to Maintain,
>>>>>>  Repair,
>>>>>  and
>>>>>>   > Improve Your Boat's  Essential Systems (Hardcover)  > by Nigel
>>>>>>  Calder  (Author)  >  >  >  >  > "Joe Abbagnaro"
>>>>>>   > <jabbagna at gmail.
>>>>>>   > com>           To
>>>>>>   > Sent by:    C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>>>>   > c320-list-bounce        cc
>>>  >>>  > s at lists.catalina
>>>>>>   > 320.com              Subject
>>>>>>   > Re: [C320-list] Battery Help /
>>>>>>   > Confused  ?
>>>>>>   > 04/21/2008  03:05
>>>>>>   > PM
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Please respond
>>>>>>   > to
>>>>>>   > C320-List at Catali
>>>>>>   > na320.com
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Bert
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Why do you say the battery is 75%  discharged.?
>>>>>>   > A 12 volt battery at rest I thought usually displays 12.2 -  12.4
>>>>>>  volts  > when not being charged, while being chrarged it is usually
>>>>>>  14 +  volts
>>>>>>   > and shorly after being charged   13+ volts and will  eventually
>>>>>>   > stabalize to 12.2 - 12.4.
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > This is my first experience  with deep cycle batteries so if I am
>>>>>>  wrong  > than let me  know.
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Thanks
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Joe
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Bob
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > The batteries are not  orginals one was replced in 2005 and one 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>  2006,
>>>>>>   > The chrger is the  original a Flyback Promariner that makes a lot
>>>>>>  of  > noise,  > which might need  to be replaced.
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > Joe
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Robert  Seastream  >
>>>>>>  <robert.seastream at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>   >> And if the  batteries are originals, depending on their care and
>>>>>  feeding
>>>>>>   >> under the  PO, it may be time for replacement.
>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>   >>  Bob  Seastream
>>>>>>   >>  Intuition # 906
>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>   >>   On Apr 21, 2008, at 3:29 PM, BAdams3491 at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>   >>  > Part of the problem is the 12.4 volts...that's about 75%
>>>>>>  capacity.
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >> > Bert
>>>>>>   >> > At Ease
>>>>>>   >> >  #442
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >> > In a message dated 4/21/2008  7:27:21 A.M. Central Daylight
>>>>>>  Time,  >> > jabbagna at gmail.com  writes:
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >> > Hi
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >> > I have a 1999  320 Hull 574, I bought the boat from the
>>>>>>  original  > owner.
>>>>>>   >> >  It has 2 Batteries , NO Dedicated start battery. So I am 
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>   > confident
>>>>>>   >> > the wiring is original from the factory. Both  batteries  are
>>>>>  reading
>>>>>>   >> > about 12.4 volts but I have no way to  load test them. My
>>>>>>  problem
>>>>>  has
>>>>>>   >> > me confused.
>>>>>>   >>  >
>>>>>>   >> > 1)  Select battery 1 Engine starts but  no other  accessories
>>>>>>  will  > work.
>>>>>>   >> > If I turn on the map  light it  comes on at less than half
>>>>>>  light  >> > than fades off after a second  or  so
>>>>>>   >> > to no light at all. Almost looks like  a   feed back condition
>>>>>>   >> > through the light.
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >> >  2) Select Battery 2 Engine  will NOTt start,  but all the
>>>>>  Accessories
>>>>>>   >> > will work when powered  on.
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >>  > 3)  Select ALL and Engine starts all Accessories  work.
>>>>>>   >>  >
>>>>>>   >> > Do I have a bad Battery, or possibly a Bad selector   switch.
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >> > Joe
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >>  >
>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>   >> >
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>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >
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