[C320-list] Helm Seat and Engine Latch Replacement
Chris Block ..._/)...._/}...
chris_block at comcast.net
Thu May 22 05:38:27 PDT 2008
While speaking of latches, does anyone have a good source for the rubber
latches that hold down the engine covers? Are they all the same? part
number?
Chris
Amore #139
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Tyler" <ptyler4 at sc.rr.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley Cabinet Latch Replacement
> Myron,
> Where did you find the twist type latch. I have one that's broken.
> Thanks
> Pat
> Jannie T 834
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Myron Welch" <myron-welch at uiowa.edu>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: 05/21/2008 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley Cabinet Latch Replacement
>
>
>> Peggy,
>>
>> If you are still in need of a galley cabinet latch, I may be able to
>> help. I have one on the door that was removed for the microwave. I also
>> changed the latches to the newer twist kind and may have three of the old
>> latches at the boat, but I will not be there until June 11.
>>
>> If you send me your address, I will be happy to send this one to you. If
>> you need more, I will check at the boat and send the rest if located.
>>
>> Myron Welch
>> Wind Instrument #238
>> Iowa City, Iowa
>>
>>
>>
>>>Does anyone know where to get a replacement for the older galley cabinet
>>>latch. It is a black plastic rocker-type finger latch.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Peggy
>>>
>>>Wetted Bliss
>>>Hull # 441
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Robert E.
>>>Sloat
>>>Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:20 AM
>>>To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Compression Release and Hand Cranking Startup
>>>
>>>
>>>Per the Yanmar owner's manual, the compression release can be used to
>>>assist
>>>in circulation of lubricating oil through the engine prior to start up
>>>after winter storage. Just turn the releases on, pull out the fuel shut
>>>off
>>>and crank the engine until the oil pressure light goes out. This gets
>>>the
>>>engine lubricated before the strain of startup at the high compression
>>>loads
>>>of the diesel. I do this when the boat is first launched after the long
>>>winter layup. Then off with the compression releases and normal startup.
>>>
>>>The fresh water Yanmar 3GM30F has the sea water belt in the way of the
>>>manual cranking gear so the hand cranking to start up with the
>>>compression
>>>releases on is not easily possible. Also, there is a cover over the
>>>cranking gear held in place by 2 small screws. I have often thought
>>>about
>>>taking the cover off to confirm that the cranking gear is there (like on
>>>the
>>>non-fresh water 3GM30). If so, then the challenge would be to try to
>>>locate
>>>the Yanmar crank accessory. The owner's manual goes through the drill of
>>>starting the engine by hand cranking. And by removal of the gear cover
>>>and
>>>simply loosening the sea water pump belt there is another option for
>>>emergency startup from battery or starter failure. Also, if the starter
>>>fails, batteries don't help.
>>>
>>>Bob Sloat
>>>Savannah 894
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Monte B." <mjbc60 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 11:44 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> Yes. If the batteries are strong enough to turn the engine over with
>>>> the
>>>> compression releases activated you can start the engine. If there is
>>>> enough
>>>> to get the engine started then there should be enough for alternator
>>>> field
>>>> excitation and you will also be able to charge your batteries. A
>>>> dedicated
>>>> start battery gets around this issue, though I don't have one and have
>>>> never
>>>> had to use the compression release technique so I can't tell you what
>>>> is
>>>> enough voltagewise. Be sure the fuel cut off is not pulled before you
>>>> use
>>>> the last of those batteries. Happy starting!
>>>>
>>>> Monte
>>>> Laima #620
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe
>>>> Barrett
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:31 AM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So if your batteries are really low you could still possibly get the
>>>> boat
>>> > started this way?
>>>> Joe
>>>>
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>>>> Joseph T. Barrett jr.
>>>> President
>>>> joe at dolphincommercialcapital.com
>>>> 9010 Strada Stell Court
>>>> Suite 209
>>>> Naples, Florida 34109
>>>>
>>>> In The Vanderbilt Galleria
>>>> tel: 239-597-2266
>>>> tel2:1-800-264-4119
>>>> fax: 239-597-7276
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>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Monte
>>> B.
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:10 PM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> The Yanmar's have three little lever's on the port side of the valve
>>>> cover.
>>>> When flipped to stern they lift the exhaust valve (I think it's the
>>>> ex.)
>>>> anyway it is a true compression release and allows the engine to spin
>>>> up
>>>> under no compression load. This takes two people or a starter jumper.
>>>> Open
>>>> the compression release levers, spin up the engine, close the
>>>> compression
>>>> release levers one at a time and the first firing cylinder will drag
>>>> the
>>>> rest to life. If all else fails this info. is in the Yanmar service
>>>> manual.
>>>>
>>>> Monte
>>>> Laima #620
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe
>>>> Barrett
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:18 AM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>> And just HOW would one do that?
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>> Dolphin Commercial Capital
>>>> Joseph T. Barrett jr.
>>>> President
>>>> joe at dolphincommercialcapital.com
>>>> 9010 Strada Stell Court
>>>> Suite 209
>>>> Naples, Florida 34109
>>>>
>>>> In The Vanderbilt Galleria
>>>> tel: 239-597-2266
>>>> tel2:1-800-264-4119
>>>> fax: 239-597-7276
>>>> mobile: 239-777-1880
>>>> www.dophincommercialcapital.com
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Ed
>>>> Heyman
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:45 PM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>> The Yanmar can be started by releasing the compression on 2 of the
>>>> cylinders. The battery jumper can then spin the engine. Once the
>>>> single
>>>> cylinder is firing you can engage the compression on the other two
>>>> cylinders.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll need very large, IE) high output battery jumper pack to turn
>>>>> over the diesel engine. Not all of the automotive jumper packs will
>>>>> start our engines.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kirk
>>>>> Boomerang #124
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe
>>>>> Abbagnaro
>>>>> Sent: 22 April 2008 06:02
>>>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>>>From the records I have of the Previous Owner , one battery was
>>>>>>replaced in
>>>>> 06/2004 the other in 07/2005. I am using a Digital Multi Meter to
>>>>> check voltages at the batteries. Looks like I will be taking along a
>>>>> Battery Jumper pack for the trip home, and hopefully will resolve
>>>>> this
>>>>> issue by the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff Hare has also posted some excellent wiring diagrams on the 320
>>>>>> web site. One thing you can also look at is the date of the
>>>>>> batteries. There should be a sticker on the top of them indicating
>>>>>> the month/year. If they are originals, I suspect you may have
>>>>>> weak/dying batteries. Even if
>>>>> resting
>>>>>> voltage is 12.4 this doesn't indicate they can take the deep charge
>>>>>> the starter imposes on them. I also have a 99 and mine died after
>>> >>> season
>>>> 5.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> the original owner and took very careful care of the batteries. I
>>>>>> now
>>>>> have
>>>>>> AGM's and a Xantrex charger. Finally, if you are relying on the
>>>>>> voltage meter on the boat's electrical panel you will find it is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> a very
>>>>> accurate
>>>>>> way to determine actual battery help. A multimeter is the best way
>>>>>> to get
>>>>> a
>>>>>> real sense of the state of the batteries. Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon Vez
>>>>>> Solstice #582
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> crashley at gte.net
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:01 AM
>>>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I happen to be an electrical engineer but this sounds very
>>>>>> mysterious.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> the battery switch is wired per the C320 diagram I have (Catalina
>>>>>> drawing
>>>>> #
>>>>>> 320-73002-10, I can send you copy if you want), then when the
>>>>>> battery selector switch is in position 1 and the motor will start
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> makes absolutely no sense that the distribution panel is not
>>>>>> powered
>>>> properly.
>>>>> (By
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the way, does the engine start in the OFF position? This might
>>>>>> explain
>>>>>> something.) It's hard to imagine a bad selector switch or a bad
>>>>>> battery could cause this problem. I suspect the wiring has been
>>>>>> reconfigured somehow. I would start with trying to verify that the
>>>>>> wiring is per the drawing I referenced earlier. Also, try to verify
>>>>>> that the battery
>>>>> grounds
>>>>>> are connected together with a very low resistance (i.e., large
>>>>>> cable).
>>>>> Good
>>>>>> luck and I'm interested in eventually knowing what the story is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CRA
>>>>>> Rosebud #882
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Monte B." <mjbc60 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:56 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Joe,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The place I would start is trying to determine the age of the
>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>> > The
>>>>>> > life expectancy of these batteries runs the gamut depending on
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> you
>>>>> use
>>>>>> > them and maintain them. If you are in the battery business, (you
>>>>>> own a > boat) > get a commercial grade battery hydrometer to
>>>>>> assess
>>>>>> cell state of
>>>>> charge.
>>>>>> > The specific gravity reading of the electrolyte roughly equates
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the > state > of charge, I.E. 1240 = 12.4 volts. If after a full
>>>>>> charge the readings > vary > by .2 or more you need to equalize
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> batteries. Throw away the > promariner > charger and get a Xantrex
>>>>>> as it has an equalize mode. By the way, my > promariner also failed
>>>>>> in the full charge mode and fried 2 4D
>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>> > (8d,s wont go in the boxes without mods). The S.G. or state of
>>>>>> charge
>>>>> will
>>>>>> > not reveal capacity but as batteries age capacity always suffers
>>>>>> due to > sulfation on the plates. The equalize mode counteracts
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> phenomena
>>>>> to a
>>>>>> > degree. If your batteries are three or more years old they have
>>>>>> done
>>>>> well
>>>>>> > and they may not be shot but will suffer from reduced capacity.
>>>>>> Five or > more > years and it is time to recycle from a
>>>>>> reliability
>>>>>> standpoint. I cannot > comment on the boat wiring, but it sounds
>>>>>> like you may have a battery
>>>>> with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > shorted cell.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Monte
>>>>>> > Laima #620
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>>> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of >
>>>>>> BAdams3491 at aol.com > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:33 PM > To:
>>>>>> C320-List at Catalina320.com > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help /
>>>>>> Confused ?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Good advice.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Bert
>>>>>> > At Ease
>>>>>> > #442
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > In a message dated 4/21/2008 5:10:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>>> > Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com writes:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If this is your first experience with deep cycle batteries (or
>>> >>> 12V > systems > on a boat), go to www.amazon.com and order this
>>>>>> book, it's an
>>>>> invaluable
>>>>>> > source of information on the subject.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Boatowner's Mechanical & Electrical Manual: How to Maintain,
>>>>>> Repair,
>>>>> and
>>>>>> > Improve Your Boat's Essential Systems (Hardcover) > by Nigel
>>>>>> Calder (Author) > > > > > "Joe Abbagnaro"
>>>>>> > <jabbagna at gmail.
>>>>>> > com> To
>>>>>> > Sent by: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>>>> > c320-list-bounce cc
>>> >>> > s at lists.catalina
>>>>>> > 320.com Subject
>>>>>> > Re: [C320-list] Battery Help /
>>>>>> > Confused ?
>>>>>> > 04/21/2008 03:05
>>>>>> > PM
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Please respond
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> > C320-List at Catali
>>>>>> > na320.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Bert
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Why do you say the battery is 75% discharged.?
>>>>>> > A 12 volt battery at rest I thought usually displays 12.2 - 12.4
>>>>>> volts > when not being charged, while being chrarged it is usually
>>>>>> 14 + volts
>>>>>> > and shorly after being charged 13+ volts and will eventually
>>>>>> > stabalize to 12.2 - 12.4.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > This is my first experience with deep cycle batteries so if I am
>>>>>> wrong > than let me know.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Joe
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Bob
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The batteries are not orginals one was replced in 2005 and one
>>>>>> in
>>>>> 2006,
>>>>>> > The chrger is the original a Flyback Promariner that makes a lot
>>>>>> of > noise, > which might need to be replaced.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Joe
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Robert Seastream >
>>>>>> <robert.seastream at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >> And if the batteries are originals, depending on their care and
>>>>> feeding
>>>>>> >> under the PO, it may be time for replacement.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Bob Seastream
>>>>>> >> Intuition # 906
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Apr 21, 2008, at 3:29 PM, BAdams3491 at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> > Part of the problem is the 12.4 volts...that's about 75%
>>>>>> capacity.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Bert
>>>>>> >> > At Ease
>>>>>> >> > #442
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:27:21 A.M. Central Daylight
>>>>>> Time, >> > jabbagna at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Hi
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > I have a 1999 320 Hull 574, I bought the boat from the
>>>>>> original > owner.
>>>>>> >> > It has 2 Batteries , NO Dedicated start battery. So I am
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>> > confident
>>>>>> >> > the wiring is original from the factory. Both batteries are
>>>>> reading
>>>>>> >> > about 12.4 volts but I have no way to load test them. My
>>>>>> problem
>>>>> has
>>>>>> >> > me confused.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > 1) Select battery 1 Engine starts but no other accessories
>>>>>> will > work.
>>>>>> >> > If I turn on the map light it comes on at less than half
>>>>>> light >> > than fades off after a second or so
>>>>>> >> > to no light at all. Almost looks like a feed back condition
>>>>>> >> > through the light.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > 2) Select Battery 2 Engine will NOTt start, but all the
>>>>> Accessories
>>>>>> >> > will work when powered on.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > 3) Select ALL and Engine starts all Accessories work.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Do I have a bad Battery, or possibly a Bad selector switch.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Joe
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
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>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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