[C320-list] Genoa Mid Ship Track Cleat

[Dennis Harris]

Again, each situation is a little different.  Our main pier where my stern 
lines are is relatively high.  The outboard pilings are high enough so one 
can place the bow lines any place.  By crossing the stern lines, I plan for 
the full range of water variance without having to adjust lines.  I figure 
lines have to allow boat to go down 4-5 ft. (on the bottom at that point) 
and up 8-9 ft. for hurricane driven tides.  In the conditions where the 
water is really high, one can't get on the boat in any case because the boat 
motion is violent, the finger pier is under water, and even if they did, 
it's doubtful they could do much controlled adjusting of the lines in the 
high wind. So while the outboard lines (bow lines in my case) can't be 
adjusted, the stern lines are tied to a piling and cleat on the main pier 
(with line eyes on cleats on boat), and one can adjust the two stern lines 
from a stationary,steady pier, if needed, until the main pier is covered. 
Then, there is no line adjusting in any case as there is too much danger of 
the adjusting person being swept away.  With a low pier, narrow slip, and 
people willing to attempt line adjustment, I can see Warren's situation, but 
in my case, the arrangement I use seems better and allows some limited 
adjustment after the boat cannot be boarded.

Dennis Harris C #694

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Warren Updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Genoa Mid Ship Track Cleat


> Our marina requests that we do not secure dock lines by the eye splice. 
> In storms when the tide rises above the finger pier where the dock end is 
> attached, the staff must board the boats to ease the dock lines.  This can 
> be difficult to impossible if the eye splice is tight on the cleat and the 
> tide has the lines tight all around.  Seems like good advice to me.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> C320, #62, 1994, "Warr De Mar"
> Frog Mortar Creek, Middle River
> Chesapeake Bay
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Harris" <dharris02 at embarqmail.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Genoa Mid Ship Track Cleat
>
>
>> >From the picture at the Carhauer web page, it would appear that you 
>> >cannot
>> pass the eye of a mooring line though the middle of the cleat and then 
>> around the horns to get a really secure attachment of a line with an eye 
>> splice.  You can that with the Schaefer cleat.  This is not important 
>> probably unless, like me, you like to preset your morning lines so all 
>> you have to do is put the eye splices at ends of the mooring lines 
>> through the cleats for really quick tying up after a returning to the 
>> dock.
>>
>> Dennis Harris C#694
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <crashley at gte.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Genoa Mid Ship Track Cleat
>>
>>
>>>I bought some mid ship cleats from Garhauer a few years ago. I think they 
>>>cost less than going to a store.
>>>
>>> Here's a link. I forget which one fit but it's easy to measure your 
>>> track.
>>>
>>> http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=78
>>>
>>> CRA
>>> Rosebud #882
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "drshoffner" <drshoffner at yahoo.com>
>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Genoa Mid Ship Track Cleat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Richard A. Walker <dickwalker at att.net>
>>> Sent: May 19, 2008 12:59 PM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Genoa Mid Ship Track Cleat
>>>
>>> The best source is Garhauer.
>>>
>>> Call them and indicate that you a C-320 member for a discount.  They are 
>>> my
>>> 1st choice for most things.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dick Walker
>>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>>> 740 Olive Ave.
>>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>>> 619.435.8986
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irving 
>>> Grunes
>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:34 AM
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Genoa Mid Ship Track Cleat
>>>
>>> We got ours on ebay as well, try Defender or JSI to see if you can't get 
>>> a
>>> deal.  The West Marine type stores want a big price for them.
>>> Irv Grunes
>>> 2001 #851
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Joe Abbagnaro <jabbagna at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to add a midship cleat to the Genoa track.
>>>> Anyone know the size of the track, and a good place to pickup one
>>>> of these cleats.  I found one made by schafer but not sure of  the
>>>> track size.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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