[C320-list] Blue Water Sailing

Mon Oct 20 20:00:21 PDT 2008

I've made flan on cuba libre 2 that way...came out perfectly..
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OD

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chef Adam Weiner" [esquirecatering at rcn.com]
Sent: 10/20/2008 07:55 PM
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Blue Water Sailing

For those of you who don't know, a Bain Marie is a hot water bath where you
put the food not on the oven rack, but in a pan of hot water and put that in
the oven.  I can't even fathom (bad pun) doing that in 35k with 16 foot
seas.  My students have a hard enough time doing it (there are some tricks)
in a non-floating kitchen.

You could write a full length article about this trip.

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Brown
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:46 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Blue Water Sailing

Hi Adam

I just wanted to reinforce your point about enthusiasm and preparation being

keys to success in preparing meal aboard.  On my one blue water trip (on a 
custom steel 67ft yacht) we had a crew of 14 mainly novices with a 
professional skipper and mate.  We sailed from Plymouth UK around the 
Fastnet rock off the Republic of Ireland into Kinsale for a beer or two and 
back to Plymouth in February.  As you may imagine the weather was cold and 
the seas lively.  One of our number, who was celebrating his 65th birthday 
with this trip, admitted he had never cooked a meal in his life having been 
provide for by first his mother and then his wife to that point.  As you can

imagine hot food was priority and we were cooking fresh 3 times a day on a 3

burner stove and a very weak electric oven.  He was sent below in 5 metre 
seas with a wind of 35knots plus and a temperature of around plus 2 with a 
competent home cook from the crew to supervise but not do anything.  The 
resulting Chili con Carne served with a dressed green salad and garlic bread

was enjoyed by both watches.

One of the crew also complained about a lack of custard for his fruit pie 
(being a Brit).  It was interesting for me to use a Bain Marie in similar 
conditions on a violently gimballing stove but the job got dome and fresh 
custard was served.

Driving that boat in at 4.00am with all sails up at between 10 and 12 knots 
close hauled in the English Channel, dodging commercial traffic in a snow 
storm was an amazing and exhilarating experience but mighty hard work.  None

of us could be on the wheel for more than an hour at a time before we needed

relieving in those conditions

Regards

Jerry Brown
Indigo #1137
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chef Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Blue Water Sailing

> Gee I was trying for some humor poking fun at the list and I hit one 
> right.
>
> Amazing.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> allan.field at verizon.net
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:52 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Blue Water Sailing
>
> Adam - you got 1 out of 10 right - number 6.  Still waiting to hear if BWS
> will let me post on the website.  If no, will send out scanned to those 
> who
> asked for it when we return from Tahoe.
>
> The main issue is that the transom design doesn't take a robust
> self-steering vane and the stock autohelm packed up after 200 miles.
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sent from my Treo PDA
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:  "Chef Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
> Subj:  Re: [C320-list] Blue Water Sailing
> Date:  Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:39 am
> Size:  2K
> To:  <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> cc:  craigeneboe at aol.com; straum_rpi at yahoo.com
>
> Without reading the article about blue water sailing I will stick my neck
> out and venture that the negative things they wrote about the 320 were:
>
> `1. The boat doesn't come stock with a folding prop.
> 2. The cabin lights are too dim
> 3. There are 4D batteries on board instead of golf cart batteries.
> 4.  There is no separate starter battery
> 5. There is no television on board
> 6. The anchor type is wrong (whatever the anchor type is)
> 7. There isn't a xynetc battery charger
> 8. The head doesn't pump with fresh water from a y valve off of the
> reefer
> 9. There is no decent bunk to sleep in if there are heavy seas
> 10. The high/wide aft area of the boat makes steering in a heavy aft
> wind/heavy following seas difficult to steer.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Harris
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 7:56 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Blue Water Sailing
>
> Its not a C320 but it shows just how strong these boats are.  Go to the 
> link
>
> to see some Dehler 31 test crashes into rocks and floating structures.
>
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvxhQO4pw2E
>
>
> A Dehler 31 yacht is sailed at full speed into an obstruction
> Category:  Sports
>
> Tags:  Dehler  yacht  crash  test  underwater  obstruction  aground  etap
> Bavaria  Legent  Moody  jeanneau  beneteau  sailing  URL
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <crashley at gte.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Blue Water Sailing
>
>
>> Is this really a surprise? The 320 is billed as a coastal cruiser. I
>> suppose any boat could sail anywhere in good weather.
>>
>> CRA
>> Rosebud #882
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Allan S. Field" <allan.field at verizon.net>
>> To: "Catalina Association List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:37 PM
>> Subject: [C320-list] Blue Water Sailing
>>
>>
>>> For anyone thinking of offshore sailing in a Catalina 320, you might 
>>> want
>
>>> to
>>> take a look at an article in the November 2008 issue of Blue Water
>>> Sailing
>>> titled A Passage to the Islands.  Alessandra, a C320, was sailed from 
>>> St.
>>> Simon's Island to St. Thomas, a 1,300 mile nonstop journey, by a
>>> professional delivery crew.  The article is quite detailed regarding the
>>> 320's shortcomings for blue water sailing and ends with faint praise:
>>> ."it
>>> will certainly be a good boat for weekends sailing around the islands.
>>> That
>>> is, after all, her intended purpose."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am going to scan the article for saving.  If anyone wants a copy, let
>>> me
>>> know.  I'll collect names  and send it out in about 2 weeks when I 
>>> return
>>> from a trip to Lake Tahoe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Allan S. Field
>>>
>>> Sea Shadow - #808
>>>
>>> Columbia, MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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