[C320-list] Bottom keel to Pulpit height

[Andrew Santangelo]

Don,

You are correct - when running aground it is much easy getting a float  
vs. a wing keel.

It is a bit fuzzy on the cost, since it was a few years ago.  I  
believed the entire deal cost around $9,000 (shipping, installation,  
the keel itself); I think I did get a credit for the old keel.  That  
was the year I did about $70k in upgrades on the boat (sails,  
electronics, keel, hydraulic backstay adjuster, etc., etc.).

The fin keel was definitely a major improvement both for racing and  
cruising. Yes we are mostly not in shallow waters.  Though two years  
ago, Lake Michigan levels were so low, my keel rested an 1" in the mud  
in the boat slip!

Best Regards,
Andrew
C320 "Dawn Treader"
#333





On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:09 PM, donauw at bellsouth.net wrote:

> Re fin keel - here in the Keys, along with the improved sailing  
> performance, you would also notice "improved" grounding :-)
>
> Never thought I'd be delighted to have 9' depth!
>
> BTW, what was the cost of the keel?
>
> Regards,
>
> Don Dixon
> Stargazer, #605
> Key West, FL
>
> -------------- Original message from Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com 
> >: --------------
>
>
>> Ah yes the keel.
>>
>> My boat was shipped to Michigan with a Wing Keel as a new purchase.
>>
>> Then I purchased a new Keel in 2000 - a fin keel. It is almost a 2'
>> change in height/water draw (Wing Keel - draws 4'4", Fin Keel - 6'
>> 3"). So what may work for a wing keel, may not work for a fin keel.
>>
>> Thanks for the information on Joule Transport. I am trying to get
>> some final bids on the price.
>>
>> BTW, with the change from a wing keel to a fin keel we did notice the
>> following:
>>
>> * Boat is 2" - 3" higher in the water.
>> * It points about 5 deg better to windward
>> * We went from placing in one race to winning or placing 4-5 times a
>> year in years we actively raced.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Andrew
>> C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> #333
>>
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:33 AM, donauw at bellsouth.net wrote:
>>
>>> I shipped Stargazer (#605) with wing keel from Wisconsin to Key West
>>> this last fall. Keel did not need to be removed. Joule Yacht
>>> Transport did an excellent job at what I thought was a reasonable
>>> rate ($6200) from Marinette/Menomonie, MI to Marathon, FL.
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>>
>>> Don Dixon
>>> Stargazer, #605
>>> Key West, FL
>>> -------------- Original message from Andrew Santangelo
>>>>> : --------------
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> I am finally, finally, finally getting ready to ship Dawn Treader,
>>>> #333 from Holland, MI to the San Francisco Bay Area.
>>>>
>>>> Finally moving funds will be available soon. Everything is packed,
>>>> derigged and good to go, except ONE thing I did not consider - boat
>>>> height!
>>>>
>>>> So here is the big question for everyone, since I am right now in  
>>>> New
>>>> Mexico and about 1500 miles away from the boat:
>>>>
>>>> --> What is the height of a FIN KEEL C320 from the bottom of the  
>>>> keel
>>>> to the top of the highest pulpit? If it is over 11', which I  
>>>> think it
>>>> is, I have a new problem - keel removal. Which means boat will not
>>>> ship until June. UGH!
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Andrew
>>>> C320 "Dawn Treader"
>>>> #333
>>