[C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety

Mon Jan 26 18:30:44 PST 2009

As a frequent single-hander, I made peace many years ago with the reality
that if I go overboard, I'm on my own.  I've read of blue water
single-handers who drag a long, knotted line behind the boat but in the
Chesapeake with lots of traffic, shallow water, and crab pots, that solution
never made much sense to me.  But 2 years ago, at the insistence of the Best
Mate, I did purchase a personal EPIRB that I do wear on my belt whenever
single-handed.  I rarely "remember" to wear the inflatable PFD and I tie in
only when the wind is over 35 knots, but I do wear the EPIRB.  Assuming I
can activate the EPIRB while in the water, I figure at least they'll find
the body...

Last year, we installed the Ocean Marine dingy davits.  There are struts
that go from the top of the rail down to the edge of the swim platform.  The
advantage of these struts is that if by some slim chance I am able to stay
with the boat, I believe that I can pull myself up onto the swim platform.

Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Culbertson
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety

The issue Orlando raised and others have commented on about the boat moving
vs not moving is the one I've found no solution for.  I've always figured
that getting the boat stopped is the enabler of the other tools for getting
yourself back on board.  

If you're moving, it's either under power or under sail.  I've always
guessed that if under sail, the key would be getting the autopilot
disengaged (if enabled) to round up (wouldn't work on a run).  If under
power, I figure the key is getting into neutral and ideally idle speed with
neutral being required and idle speed being desirable.  

If there are gadgets on the market to address either of these two
situations, I've not found them.  I'm kind of amazed that nothing commercial
seems to exist.

 -bill
 Harmony #859

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Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety

I'm assuming all of this talk about grabbing a ladder while single handing
presupposes that the boat will be standing still and not moving either
under sail or power... :)

If you're sailing alone and fall overboard, good luck in trying to lower
any ladder..

My strategery has always been to stay IN the boat.. :)

OD

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Wayne:

I have done some single handed sailing and the thought of  not being able
to lower the ladder from the water has always bothered me.  I have
thought of tying the ladder up with yarn that could be broken with a good
pull.  However I then need to run a line across the access opening so as
not to fall backward out of the cockpit.

If you could describe the arrangement you use, I would appreciate it.
Photos would be a great help.

Thanks,

Dave Gleason
Proud Mary, #150

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:04:05 -0800 (PST) Wayne Strickland
<nadowayne at yahoo.com> writes:
> Ladder deployment if in the water and not having a mate onboard, was
> a concern of mine.  I attached lines to the latches and to the
> ladder and they can easily be reached while in the water.  The lines
> release the ladder and pull it down to the water.
> Safety is a good thing.
>
> Wayne Strickland
> Wayne's World 594
> Coronado, CA.
>
> On Jan 23, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Sail0983 at aol.com wrote:
>
> While I don't like it I think the advantage is that it can be
> deployed by
> someone in the water.
>
> Dave Marchant
> Illumination #983
> Solomons, MD
>
>
> In a message dated 1/23/2009 8:23:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> bcampbell at valp.net writes:
>
> What's  up with the cheap stern boarding ladder on the new boats?
> Even the
> C375 has  it and they don't seam to be very user  friendly.
>
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