[C320-list] Anti - Siphon Loop
Irving Grunes
igrunes at gmail.com
Mon Jul 27 17:16:55 PDT 2009
Re head pump,
Check the filter, it may be clogged
Irv Grunes
2110 8851
On 7/27/09, Pat Kenefick <pkenefick at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> I recently checked the loop that is in the head cabinet as neither the
> shower or refrig. were pumping out. The valve seemed to be ok and working;
> my questions: is the cap to be screwed down tightly(simple hand turn tight)
> or are you loosen it a few turns ? Second question - if pump seems to be
> running correctly why would the water not be pumping out of the shower or
> refrig. knowing that the thru hull is open and anti- siphon is working ?
> Thanks
> Pat Kenefick
> "Cynthia Gale"
> Hull 833
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>> 1. Forespar Novalift (Jim Sweet)
>> 2. Re: Forespar Novalift (Richard A. Walker)
>> 3. Re: Fwd: Re: microwave (Robert Seastream)
>> 4. Re: Forespar Novalift (Jim Sweet)
>> 5. Re: Fwd: Re: microwave (wflowe3 at netscape.net)
>> 6. Re: Fwd: Re: Shower drain pump problem (Scott Thompson)
>> 7. Re: Fwd: Re: Shower drain pump problem (Rick Evans)
>> 8. Engine POD Upgrade (amshd2 at aol.com)
>> 9. Re: Forespar Novalift (Richard A. Walker)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:10:00 -0500
>> From: "Jim Sweet" <jamesweet at frontiernet.net>
>> Subject: [C320-list] Forespar Novalift
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID: <E5765E7CCBA542DA8ABFD875F1ACDA9E at jamesweetPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Anybody put a Forespar Novalift on their 320? The outboard keeps getting
>> heavier and I keep getting older so I'm thinking of going this route. Any
>> imput would be appreciated.
>>
>> Jim Sweet
>> TGIF (Thank God It Floats) 901
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:12:44 -0700
>> From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forespar Novalift
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID: <2439544A6F314076BCB432D659D14D69 at D53ZJN31>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I recommend the Garhauer product. It is stronger and much less expensive.
>>
>> http://garhauermarine.com/
>>
>> They support the C-320 regattas and now have free freight.
>>
>> Buy directly from them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ?
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sweet
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:10 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Forespar Novalift
>>
>> Anybody put a Forespar Novalift on their 320? The outboard keeps getting
>> heavier and I keep getting older so I'm thinking of going this route. Any
>> imput would be appreciated.
>>
>> Jim Sweet
>> TGIF (Thank God It Floats) 901
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:16:04 -0400
>> From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: microwave
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Message-ID: <D284B35E-F5F4-4D32-AC9D-213AD63B54CC at comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>
>> I left the microwave oven repair field in 1996, but believe either
>> your magnetron (which emits the 'cooking' microwaves), the high
>> voltage diode, or transformer (parts of the power supply to the
>> magnetron) went bad. Replacement of either or all can fix the problem
>> if keeping the existing mw due to size is an issue, but could exceed
>> the cost of replacement of the entire unit.
>>
>> Bob Seastream
>> Intuition # 906
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Karl Mielenhausen _/)
>> <c320 at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> This Defender microwave MAY fit but will require some modifications
>>> to the boat.
>>>
>>> The compartment on my boat (2000 model) measures 9.5" H x 19.375" W
>>> x 11.75" D.
>>> You could probably get an extra 1" or so by routing out the top
>>> facepiece (like the factory did for the bottom facepiece). The depth
>>> is not all that critical as the microwave can extend from the
>>> opening (as long as the feet are supported). You are going to be
>>> securing it with mounting clips anyway.
>>>
>>> Be advised that Lowes has the GE JES735WJ (their SKU 265884) that
>>> might fit (with the modification discussed above) and costs only $29
>>> on sale thru 7/27.
>>>
>>> http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=265884-83-JES735WJ
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> ------- Forwarded message -------
>>> From: hcreech at comcast.net
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Cc:
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] microwave
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:04:10 -0400
>>>
>>> Check Defender, Page 110, Contour Microwave $119.00,
>>> 17"W-10-1/8"H-12-3/4"D. Not the one I bought from them awhile back,
>>> but I
>>> believe those dimensions work.
>>>
>>>
>>> Herb Creech
>>> Cloud chaser 606
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: wflowe3 at netscape.net
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:38:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] microwave
>>>
>>>
>>> Barb,
>>> I still have some checking to do but I have been told that Tappan
>>> discontinued this model and I haven't found anything that fits into
>>> the
>>> space that this one is in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Barbara Uhlman <uhlman at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 5:16 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] microwave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Exactly!! Bill, we have the exact same problem. I used it once last
>>> summer
>>> for
>>> popcorn and now the light comes on and the timer works, but no heat.
>>> Must
>>> be a
>>> bad model. After contacting Tappan, people at Catalina Yacht,
>>> Seaward (that
>>> installed them), I'm back in touch with Warren Pandy at the Catalina
>>> Yachts
>>> location in Largo, FL. I just talked with him yesterday. He will
>>> probably
>>> use
>>> a different brand for replacement. Our boat was still under warranty
>>> when I
>>> discovered it no longer worked so we will not have to pay for the
>>> replacement.
>>> Best of luck.
>>>
>>> Barb Uhlman
>>> "Whisper", #1158
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 7/23/09, wflowe3 at netscape.net <wflowe3 at netscape.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: wflowe3 at netscape.net <wflowe3 at netscape.net>
>>>> Subject: [C320-list] microwave
>>>> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
>>>> Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 5:01 PM
>>>> I have a 2008 boat that came with a
>>>> Tappan microwave built in. It (the microwave, not the boat)
>>>> has stopped working. Has anyone else with a late model boat
>>>> had microwave problems and how did you resolve them?? By not
>>>> working, I mean it won't heat anything up. The lights go on
>>>> and the carosel goes around but won't even heat water.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Karl Mielenhausen
>>> Catalina 320 Hull 690
>>> New Bern, NC
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:49:54 -0500
>> From: "Jim Sweet" <jamesweet at frontiernet.net>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forespar Novalift
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID: <831044F34ED74A83A2FA826EC4ED6D35 at jamesweetPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> I looked at it but it only has a 150 lb lifting weight and part of the
>> reason for getting the lift is in a man overboard situation. Novalift
>> goes
>> to 250 and with their current rebate and some West Marine rewards coupons
>> the $ spread isn't very large.
>>
>> Jim Sweet
>> TGIF(Thank God It Floats) 901
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Walker" <
>> dickwalker at att.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forespar Novalift
>>
>>
>> I recommend the Garhauer product. It is stronger and much less expensive.
>>
>> http://garhauermarine.com/
>>
>> They support the C-320 regattas and now have free freight.
>>
>> Buy directly from them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sweet
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:10 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Forespar Novalift
>>
>> Anybody put a Forespar Novalift on their 320? The outboard keeps getting
>> heavier and I keep getting older so I'm thinking of going this route. Any
>> imput would be appreciated.
>>
>> Jim Sweet
>> TGIF (Thank God It Floats) 901
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:13:26 -0400
>> From: wflowe3 at netscape.net
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: microwave
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Message-ID: <8CBDCD3297A351B-1A74-32C2 at WEBMAIL-MY19.sysops.aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> Routing out the upper trim would work except there is not room for a
>> router plate.? There is only a couple of inches between the trim and the
>> overhead and? I'm not sure whether there is any way to remove the trim.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 9:16 pm
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: microwave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I left the microwave oven repair field in 1996, but believe either your
>> magnetron (which emits the 'cooking' microwaves), the high voltage diode, or
>> transformer (parts of the power supply to the magnetron) went bad.
>> Replacement of either or all can fix the problem if keeping the existing mw
>> due to size is an issue, but could exceed the cost of replacement of the
>> entire unit.?
>> ?
>>
>> Bob Seastream?
>>
>> Intuition # 906?
>> ?
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Karl Mielenhausen _/) <c320 at suddenlink.net>
>> wrote:?
>> ?
>>
>> This Defender microwave MAY fit but will require some modifications > to
>>> the boat.?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> The compartment on my boat (2000 model) measures 9.5" H x 19.375" W > x
>>> 11.75" D.?
>>>
>>
>> You could probably get an extra 1" or so by routing out the top >
>>> facepiece (like the factory did for the bottom facepiece). The depth > is
>>> not all that critical as the microwave can extend from the > opening (as
>>> long as the feet are supported). You are going to be > securing it with
>>> mounting clips anyway.?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> Be advised that Lowes has the GE JES735WJ (their SKU 265884) that > might
>>> fit (with the modification discussed above) and costs only $29 > on sale
>>> thru 7/27.?
>>>
>>
>>
>>> http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=265884-83-JES735WJ
>>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> Karl?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ------- Forwarded message -------?
>>>
>>
>> From: hcreech at comcast.net?
>>>
>>
>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com?
>>>
>>
>> Cc:?
>>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] microwave?
>>>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:04:10 -0400?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> Check Defender, Page 110, Contour Microwave $119.00,?
>>>
>>
>> 17"W-10-1/8"H-12-3/4"D. Not the one I bought from them awhile back, > but
>>> I?
>>>
>>
>> believe those dimensions work.?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> Herb Creech?
>>>
>>
>> Cloud chaser 606?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----?
>>>
>>
>> From: wflowe3 at netscape.net?
>>>
>>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com?
>>>
>>
>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:38:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern?
>>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] microwave?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> Barb,?
>>>
>>
>> I still have some checking to do but I have been told that Tappan?
>>>
>>
>> discontinued this model and I haven't found anything that fits into >
>>> the?
>>>
>>
>> space that this one is in.?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----?
>>>
>>
>> From: Barbara Uhlman <uhlman at sbcglobal.net>?
>>>
>>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com?
>>>
>>
>> Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 5:16 pm?
>>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] microwave?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> Exactly!! Bill, we have the exact same problem. I used it once last >
>>> summer?
>>>
>>
>> for?
>>>
>>
>> popcorn and now the light comes on and the timer works, but no heat. >
>>> Must?
>>>
>>
>> be a?
>>>
>>
>> bad model. After contacting Tappan, people at Catalina Yacht, > Seaward
>>> (that?
>>>
>>
>> installed them), I'm back in touch with Warren Pandy at the Catalina >
>>> Yachts?
>>>
>>
>> location in Largo, FL. I just talked with him yesterday. He will >
>>> probably?
>>>
>>
>> use?
>>>
>>
>> a different brand for replacement. Our boat was still under warranty >
>>> when I?
>>>
>>
>> discovered it no longer worked so we will not have to pay for the?
>>>
>>
>> replacement.?
>>>
>>
>> Best of luck.?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> Barb Uhlman?
>>>
>>
>> "Whisper", #1158?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 7/23/09, wflowe3 at netscape.net <wflowe3 at netscape.net> >
>>> wrote:?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> From: wflowe3 at netscape.net <wflowe3 at netscape.net>?
>>>>
>>>
>> Subject: [C320-list] microwave?
>>>>
>>>
>> To: c320-list at catalina320.com?
>>>>
>>>
>> Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 5:01 PM?
>>>>
>>>
>> I have a 2008 boat that came with a?
>>>>
>>>
>> Tappan microwave built in. It (the microwave, not the boat)?
>>>>
>>>
>> has stopped working. Has anyone else with a late model boat?
>>>>
>>>
>> had microwave problems and how did you resolve them?? By not?
>>>>
>>>
>> working, I mean it won't heat anything up. The lights go on?
>>>>
>>>
>> and the carosel goes around but won't even heat water.?
>>>>
>>>
>> ?
>>>>
>>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>
>> --> Karl Mielenhausen?
>>>
>>
>> Catalina 320 Hull 690?
>>>
>>
>> New Bern, NC?
>>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:30:40 -0400
>> From: Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: Shower drain pump problem
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Message-ID: <4A6DBA10.5010902 at thompson87.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> You probably damaged the duckbill valve in the anti-siphon loop when you
>> ran the pump with the through hull closed. That is what that "popping"
>> noise was when you started the pump. Someone else reported the exact
>> same experience earlier this year.
>>
>> Once it's blown it's going to leak whenever you run the shower sump
>> pump, whether it's to drain the ice box or the shower sump. You can buy
>> a replacement cap assembly, which includes the duckbill valve, at West
>> Marine. It's made by Forespar.
>>
>> And yes, the duckbill valve is part of the screw off cap of the plastic
>> "U", which is your anti-siphon loop. The purpose of this device is to
>> close whenever pressure exists in the circuit, but also to let air into
>> the hose if suction ever develops, which could cause water to start
>> siphoning from the thru-hull into the boat. However the rubber valve
>> can only withstand so much pressure before it fails, which probably is
>> what happened in your case. And once it fails, it no longer can close
>> to keep water from leaking out of the hose under pressure.
>>
>> There is a second anti-siphon loop for the head intake in the same
>> locker, and a third one in the port cockpit locker that is for the
>> engine cooling raw water circuit. But since there is no way to close the
>> outlet for either of those circuits, you are unlikely to ever blow the
>> valve except on the one for the shower sump.
>>
>> Scott Thompson
>>
>>
>> Rick Evans wrote:
>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Where is the duckbill valve? Is it in the plastic U?
>>>
>>> I did have the through hull closed but opened it when the problem
>>> occurred but it didn't help. Although I never knew it had multiple
>>> positions. I will get it there and look again.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Rick
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/)" <c320 at suddenlink.net>
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:50:27
>>> To: C320IA Discussion List<C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: Shower drain pump problem
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff is correct, but you may also have a problem with the antisiphon loop
>>> for the shower drain line.
>>>
>>> The duckbill valve inside it is designed to relieve vacuum, not to open
>>> with pressure.
>>> Open it up and make sure
>>> a. the duckbill portion is indeed there
>>> b. the "lips' are pointing down, away from the cap
>>> c. the hole in the cap is not restricted
>>>
>>> We have 3 of these antisiphons on the boat and they each should be
>>> checked
>>> annually.
>>> More info is here...
>>> http://www.catalina320.com/article.php/20090227142548598
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> ------- Forwarded message -------
>>> From: "Jeff Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Cc:
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shower drain pump problem
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:40:53 -0400
>>>
>>> Rick, this happens when the shower sump thru hull is not open when you
>>> run the pump.
>>>
>>> If you have a "Y" valve under the head sink then one position is fridge
>>> and the other is shower.
>>>
>>> - JeffH
>>> ------Original Message------
>>> From: Rick Evans
>>> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Shower drain pump problem
>>> Sent: Jul 25, 2009 8:42 PM
>>>
>>> 2 things
>>>
>>> 1. Is it true the shower drain pump is used to pump out the ice box?
>>>
>>> 2. Today when I turned the shower pump on to drain the icebox today I
>>> heard a sound like air popping in the head. I opened the door and there
>>> was water coming from the VENT hose on behind the head in the cabinet.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any idea what the problem is?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Rick
>>> #724
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Scott Thompson
>> Surprise, #653
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:33:15 +0000
>> From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: Shower drain pump problem
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <1725833478-1248705178-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-436219073- at bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
>> >
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>> I agree that's exactly what I did. Thanks for the info I will go get one
>> asap.
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:30:40
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: Shower drain pump problem
>>
>>
>> You probably damaged the duckbill valve in the anti-siphon loop when you
>> ran the pump with the through hull closed. That is what that "popping"
>> noise was when you started the pump. Someone else reported the exact
>> same experience earlier this year.
>>
>> Once it's blown it's going to leak whenever you run the shower sump
>> pump, whether it's to drain the ice box or the shower sump. You can buy
>> a replacement cap assembly, which includes the duckbill valve, at West
>> Marine. It's made by Forespar.
>>
>> And yes, the duckbill valve is part of the screw off cap of the plastic
>> "U", which is your anti-siphon loop. The purpose of this device is to
>> close whenever pressure exists in the circuit, but also to let air into
>> the hose if suction ever develops, which could cause water to start
>> siphoning from the thru-hull into the boat. However the rubber valve
>> can only withstand so much pressure before it fails, which probably is
>> what happened in your case. And once it fails, it no longer can close
>> to keep water from leaking out of the hose under pressure.
>>
>> There is a second anti-siphon loop for the head intake in the same
>> locker, and a third one in the port cockpit locker that is for the
>> engine cooling raw water circuit. But since there is no way to close the
>> outlet for either of those circuits, you are unlikely to ever blow the
>> valve except on the one for the shower sump.
>>
>> Scott Thompson
>>
>>
>> Rick Evans wrote:
>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Where is the duckbill valve? Is it in the plastic U?
>>>
>>> I did have the through hull closed but opened it when the problem
>>> occurred but it didn't help. Although I never knew it had multiple
>>> positions. I will get it there and look again.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Rick
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/)" <c320 at suddenlink.net>
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:50:27
>>> To: C320IA Discussion List<C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Fwd: Re: Shower drain pump problem
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff is correct, but you may also have a problem with the antisiphon loop
>>> for the shower drain line.
>>>
>>> The duckbill valve inside it is designed to relieve vacuum, not to open
>>> with pressure.
>>> Open it up and make sure
>>> a. the duckbill portion is indeed there
>>> b. the "lips' are pointing down, away from the cap
>>> c. the hole in the cap is not restricted
>>>
>>> We have 3 of these antisiphons on the boat and they each should be
>>> checked
>>> annually.
>>> More info is here...
>>> http://www.catalina320.com/article.php/20090227142548598
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> ------- Forwarded message -------
>>> From: "Jeff Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Cc:
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shower drain pump problem
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:40:53 -0400
>>>
>>> Rick, this happens when the shower sump thru hull is not open when you
>>> run the pump.
>>>
>>> If you have a "Y" valve under the head sink then one position is fridge
>>> and the other is shower.
>>>
>>> - JeffH
>>> ------Original Message------
>>> From: Rick Evans
>>> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Shower drain pump problem
>>> Sent: Jul 25, 2009 8:42 PM
>>>
>>> 2 things
>>>
>>> 1. Is it true the shower drain pump is used to pump out the ice box?
>>>
>>> 2. Today when I turned the shower pump on to drain the icebox today I
>>> heard a sound like air popping in the head. I opened the door and there
>>> was water coming from the VENT hose on behind the head in the cabinet.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any idea what the problem is?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Rick
>>> #724
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Scott Thompson
>> Surprise, #653
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:11:53 -0400
>> From: amshd2 at aol.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Engine POD Upgrade
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Message-ID: <8CBDCFCDAEDC1AC-EBC-1284 at WEBMAIL-MA20.sysops.aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> Looking at changing out the Eng POD on my 94 #30 with the perkins.?Lookin
>> at getting the newer model? from Seaward, the one?you can see the gagues w/o
>> having to lay on the deck :). Has anyone done this?
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:38:44 -0700
>> From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forespar Novalift
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID: <4D556A1B426B4D7AB436410195E18E0E at D53ZJN31>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> You might ask them to make one the next larger size.
>>
>> You might be surprised at the answer and price.
>>
>> Also guaranteed for 10 years. The hold to that promise.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ?
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sweet
>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:50 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forespar Novalift
>>
>> I looked at it but it only has a 150 lb lifting weight and part of the
>> reason for getting the lift is in a man overboard situation. Novalift
>> goes
>> to 250 and with their current rebate and some West Marine rewards coupons
>> the $ spread isn't very large.
>>
>> Jim Sweet
>> TGIF(Thank God It Floats) 901
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Walker" <
>> dickwalker at att.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forespar Novalift
>>
>>
>> I recommend the Garhauer product. It is stronger and much less expensive.
>>
>> http://garhauermarine.com/
>>
>> They support the C-320 regattas and now have free freight.
>>
>> Buy directly from them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sweet
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:10 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Forespar Novalift
>>
>> Anybody put a Forespar Novalift on their 320? The outboard keeps getting
>> heavier and I keep getting older so I'm thinking of going this route. Any
>> imput would be appreciated.
>>
>> Jim Sweet
>> TGIF (Thank God It Floats) 901
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> End of C320-list Digest, Vol 518, Issue 1
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