[C320-list] Installing an inverter

[Rick Sulewski]

What is the size of the AC and the specific generators used to power your AC
unit?

Thanks.

Rick

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Seastream
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Precisely why we'll be using a 'very' short pigtail to plug into the  
shore power connector.

Bob Seastream
Intuition # 906

On Mar 4, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Allan S. Field wrote:

> A trick I learned from Orlando: Using the 50 foot power cord that  
> came with the boat, I could not power the Air Conditioner.  But I  
> bought a 12 foot cord and all works fine.
>
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> ] On Behalf Of Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
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>
> One more thing on these...there's no need to put them on the swim  
> step to run....get a piece of indoor-outdoor carpeting, and put in  
> the space going out to the swim ladder with the exhaust pointing out..
> ----------------------------------
> Regards,
> OD
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Airis" [rairis at comcast.net]
> Sent: 03/04/2009 04:07 PM PST
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Installing an inverter
>
>
>
> We bought our honda EU2000 from a internet site called   
> steadypower.com. The
> cost was around $750.00 The unit works great, and stores in the aft
> starboard locker. Great for the little things too  ,like hot water  
> in the
> morning in 15 min. You can hardly hear it running
>
> Bob & Sheila........Hale Kai 2
>
>
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> From: "Robert Seastream" <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Installing an inverter
>
>
>> We think a generator is the most efficient solution.  We're about to
>> bite on the Honda EU2000i, but are considering the Honda EU200i
>> 'companion' instead.  Both generators have two outlets, but the
>> 'companion' (so called because it can be paralleled with the original
>> for double the output) has a twistlock outlet as its second outlet.
>> Other than that, and lacking the 12 VDC charging outlet present on  
>> the
>> original, the two appear identical, although the 'companion' is $100
>> more.  I just need to ensure that the twistlock is live when the so
>> equipped generator is run as a standalone.  I'll run a short pigtail
>> from the generator to the shore power connector.  I plan to install
>> fittings on the portside swim platform to pass a web strap through  
>> and
>> around the generator to secure it.  It'll be stored in the starboard
>> side locker when not in use.
>>
>> The units are $995 and $1095 locally.  I've heard of an internet  
>> store
>> (Wise sales?) that has them cheaper, with free shipping.
>>
>> Bob Seastream
>> Intuition # 906
>>
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2009, at 11:29 AM, <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dean,
>>>
>>> 1) I'm not sure about the startup load on the microwave, but it
>>> might need
>>> to be over 2kw peak.
>>>
>>> 2) The modified sine wave can be done but is not a great idea for  
>>> the
>>> Microwave, especially if you're only running from batteries. Here's
>>> why:
>>> While a microwave will function from a modified sinewave inverter,  
>>> the
>>> performance of the microwave will be very slow and gets even worse
>>> as the
>>> battery supply voltage drops. (e.g. to boil one cup of water on a
>>> modified
>>> sinewave inverter might take around 2.5 minutes while drawing around
>>> 100+amps DC, compared to around 30 seconds with a pure sine wave
>>> inverter
>>> also consuming 100+amps DC).  As your batteries voltage drops, the
>>> inverter
>>> will attempt to take more and more current to keep the output RMS
>>> voltage
>>> around 110+ AC.
>>>
>>> You might be better off getting one of those tiny nearly silent  
>>> Honda
>>> portable generators like the EU2000i, putting it on the swim
>>> platform when
>>> you need AC.  It's less expensive than a sine wave inverter and will
>>> solve
>>> virtually all your AC needs under way.  You'll save money as well,
>>> but at
>>> the cost of a slight bit of inconvenience to plug in and start the
>>> generator.  Before ruling that option out, you might want to visit a
>>> dealer
>>> and hear just how quiet they are.
>>>
>>> 3) Yes. The closer to the batteries the better, however, you can run
>>> heavy
>>> expensive cables (like what feeds the starter) and mount the  
>>> inverter
>>> elsewhere.  The voltage drop at 100+ amps is significant.
>>>
>>> -Jeff
>>> #809
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:03:30 -0600, Dean Vermeire <dean at vermeire.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about installing an AC inverter to be able to run the
>>>> microwave, etc. when not in the marina.  I know a number of you  
>>>> have
>>>> done this.  I've done a little homework, but there is a reason I
>>>> did not
>>>> major in electrical engineering.  So, I have a few questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  How many watts?  I figure I should have at least 1200  
>>>> continuous.
>>>> 2.  Are the ones with a modified sine wave good enough?  I wouldn't
>>>> think the microwave would care too much.
>>>> 3.  Where should it be installed?  I've read that you should
>>>> install it
>>>> close to the batteries, but those are on the starboard side and the
>>>> microwave is on the port side.
>>>> 4.  Any particular brands to avoid?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Dean Vermeire
>>>> Moonstruck II (#847)
>>>
>>
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