[C320-list] Ahoy owners with Perkins engines
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Mon Nov 2 15:31:37 PST 2009
The Perkins in #182 ran well the past .2 weeks in FL after 6 months on the hard. Today, after running 15 minutes, an unholy noise developed which appears to be the water pump for the closed circuit coolant freezing up and causing the alternator belt to spin over that top pulley, screech, and burn.
The pulley spins ok now with the belt off and some turning -- but not real smoothly.
Has anyone experienced this problem?
Can the pump be repaired or a bearing replaced?
Any ideas will be appreciated. Our FL club racing starts in one week. Rollie #182
----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:13:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Ahoy owners with Perkins engines
>From what I understand, a flex coupling has two main benefits: 1) provides a
level of vibration isolation; 2) acts as a shock absorber in the even of a
fouled or struck prop.
Typical engine room soundproofing will reduce the noise that is transmitted
through the air. However, a fair percent of engine noise is not transmitted
through the air; but, directly through the hull as vibration via the
transmission, engine mounts, and shaft. A flex coupling dampens some of this
vibration preventing it from reaching the hull. The primary function is to
protect the drive train.
Not much chance of striking a prop on the ground with a sailboat; but, here
in the Chesapeake it's not at all rare to capture a crab trap line in the
prop. I've had several such incidents, and a very common event is for the
line to wrap on the prop/shaft and haul in the float to wedge between the
hull and prop. Nothing will stop your engine as fast. Imagine the stress on
the drive train. With a flex coupling, the shock is absorbed by the
coupling. The coupling might even part. Better to ruin a $300 coupling than
have a bent prop, shaft, and/or other damage.
Warren & Pattie Updike
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
-----Original Message-----
From: Kirk McCullough [mailto:kirk.mccullough at telus.net]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:24 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Ahoy owners with Perkins engines
It's a good thing to keep in mind. I did the SS shaft at the same time and
also installed the Kiwi prop. The Kiwi puts a heck of a load on the gearbox
in reverse so I feel safe with ZF10.
Whats the benefit of the flex coupling?
Kirk
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Warren Updike
Sent: 24 October 2009 13:26
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Ahoy owners with Perkins engines
Yes, in fact when I contacted Foley about rebuilding my Hurth 50, they
recommended I go to the ZF10/Hurth100. I think it is about 10mm longer than
the ZF5/H50; and, indicates that I should shorten the shaft which I decided
not to do. Instead, I had the HWB50 rebuilt at a shop near Annapolis for
about $750.
In the future should I find the need to deal with the transmission again, I
will definitely go with the upgrade, replace the shaft with SS, and add a
flex coupling. I figure that will cost about $700.
Warren & Pattie Updike
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
-----Original Message-----
From: Kirk McCullough [mailto:kirk.mccullough at telus.net]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:55 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Ahoy owners with Perkins engines
Another option is to get the ZF 10 (hurth 100) which is designed to take the
29 hp the Perkins can deliver, in fact as I recall it's good up to 45 hp.
The ZF 5 or ZF 6, just like the Hurth 50 is really on the edge of the
specification for our engines. The ZF 10 a little longer but otherwise is a
direct replacement.
Kirk
#124
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Warren Updike
Sent: 22 October 2009 09:27
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Ahoy owners with Perkins engines
Actually, this is about your Hurth transmission. FoleyEngines.com is an
authorized facility for Perkins and ZF/Hurth products. This is not a
recommendation, just a heads up for owners that may not know about Foley.
Check this out:
http://archives.subscribermail.com/msg/9ca93553bbd5413abfd0e5ce4695fe78.htm
Warren & Pattie Updike
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
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