[C320-list] Annual Regatta

Pat Kenefick pkenefick at embarqmail.com
Tue Nov 17 12:51:31 PST 2009


Karl:
I would think that Regional meetings / Regattas would have the best hope of 
success for many reasons. The primary one being cost to the travelers. Being 
Regional may also bring more boats to each meeting; perhaps coordinate 
timing with Regional boat shows as well may help gather in more people. In 
any event a tough one for sure given that we could not even get our local 
group to meet.
Pat Kenefick
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>   1. Re: Planning the 2010 Regatta (Robert Seastream)
>   2. Re: Planning the 2010 Regatta (annika brancato)
>   3. Re: Planning the 2010 Regatta (Jeff Hare)
>   4. Engine alignment (Chuck and Kathy)
>   5. Re: Engine alignment (Bruce Heyman)
>   6. Re: Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs. older
>      issues (Warren Updike)
>   7. Re: Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs. older
>      issues (Jane & Ken)
>   8. Re: Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs.older
>      issues (Stephen Cox)
>   9. Re: Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs.older
>      issues (R.G. Miller)
>  10. bottom paint (Chris Descher)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:05:32 -0500
> From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Planning the 2010 Regatta
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> What Barb said.  My wife teaches also; not done until late June,
> starts up by late August/early September.
> The kids don't have to start until after Labor Day, but teachers ramp
> up earlier.
> We don't race, vendors are good, the less formal the dinner, the better.
> If the Regatta came to CT, we'd consider bringing our boat from NH.
> Perhaps someone could show us how to sail it better.  :-)
>
> Bob Seastream
> Intuition # 906
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Barbara Uhlman wrote:
>
>> Karl,
>>
>> I don't know if we can go or not, but, as a teacher, we cannot take
>> off whenever we want during the school year.  In our area, we will
>> be off in June and July and maybe the first week of August.  Any
>> other time might be hard to get teachers there.
>>
>> Best of luck in planning.
>>
>> Barb Uhlman
>> Whisper, #1158
>>
>> --- On Sun, 11/15/09, Karl Mielenhausen _/) <c320 at suddenlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Karl Mielenhausen _/) <c320 at suddenlink.net>
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Planning the 2010 Regatta
>>> To: "C320IA Discussion List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 9:46 AM
>>> C320IA Members:
>>>
>>> Your Governing Board would appreciate your suggestions as
>>> we plan for a 2010 Annual Meeting & Regatta.
>>>
>>> Historically, we have tried to hold one meeting per year,
>>> alternating locations (East coast/West coast).
>>> Timing has most recently been early August.
>>> We'd like to consider all ideas that might result in
>>> greater value and attendance. For example,
>>> Should we hold our events in conjunction with the Catalina
>>> Rendezvous or a regional boat show?
>>> Should we find a different time of year, perhaps extending
>>> your boating season?
>>> What value do you place on the class race (regatta), on
>>> having vendors, on having a formal dinner, etc.
>>> Would a tour of the Largo, FL factory we enough of a draw
>>> to get you to attend?
>>>
>>> Please share your thoughts, either with the entire list, to
>>> me directly (C320 at suddenlink.net),
>>> or by phoning me at (252) 638-1433.
>>>
>>> Thanks....
>>>
>>> --Karl Mielenhausen
>>> Catalina 320 Hull 690
>>> New Bern, NC
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:32:09 -0500
> From: annika brancato <annikabrancato at hotmail.com>
> To: <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Planning the 2010 Regatta
> Message-ID: <COL114-W6446104B0837B05DBFE18ECBA50 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> We live on Lake Ontario and have been looking for an excuse to visit 
> Chicago, so for us that would be an ideal location.
>
>
>
> Annika & Dino
>
>
>
> Enjoy each day as if it was your last....
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:47:18 -0800
>> From: smoothsail282 at sbcglobal.net
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Planning the 2010 Regatta
>>
>> How about having the Regatta in Chicago?
>>
>> Would there be enough interest in the Great Lakes area.  I'm in 
>> Milwaukee, Wisconsin and I would be interested in the Chicago area.  I 
>> know that there was at least one that was held in Chicago.
>>
>> Karl Krueger (Kindred Spirit #282)
>>
>> --- On Sun, 11/15/09, Karl Mielenhausen _/) <c320 at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Karl Mielenhausen _/) <c320 at suddenlink.net>
>> Subject: [C320-list] Planning the 2010 Regatta
>> To: "C320IA Discussion List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 9:46 AM
>>
>>
>> C320IA Members:
>>
>> Your Governing Board would appreciate your suggestions as we plan for a 
>> 2010 Annual Meeting & Regatta.
>>
>> Historically, we have tried to hold one meeting per year, alternating 
>> locations (East coast/West coast).
>> Timing has most recently been early August.
>> We'd like to consider all ideas that might result in greater value and 
>> attendance. For example,
>> Should we hold our events in conjunction with the Catalina Rendezvous or 
>> a regional boat show?
>> Should we find a different time of year, perhaps extending your boating 
>> season?
>> What value do you place on the class race (regatta), on having vendors, 
>> on having a formal dinner, etc.
>> Would a tour of the Largo, FL factory we enough of a draw to get you to 
>> attend?
>>
>> Please share your thoughts, either with the entire list, to me directly 
>> (C320 at suddenlink.net), or by phoning me at (252) 638-1433.
>>
>> Thanks....
>>
>> --Karl Mielenhausen
>> Catalina 320 Hull 690
>> New Bern, NC
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:22:08 +0000
> From: "Jeff Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Planning the 2010 Regatta
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> Bob,  You're too modest.
>
> We saw you heading to your marina this summer in portsmouth.  The pointy 
> end was goin the right way a lot of the time.
>
> That's success in my book anyway. :)
>
> Next time maybe put the sails up?
>
> ;)
> ------Original Message------
> From: Robert Seastream
> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Planning the 2010 Regatta
> Sent: Nov 16, 2009 5:05 PM
>
> What Barb said.  My wife teaches also; not done until late June,
> starts up by late August/early September.
> The kids don't have to start until after Labor Day, but teachers ramp
> up earlier.
> We don't race, vendors are good, the less formal the dinner, the better.
> If the Regatta came to CT, we'd consider bringing our boat from NH.
> Perhaps someone could show us how to sail it better.  :-)
>
> Bob Seastream
> Intuition # 906
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Barbara Uhlman wrote:
>
>> Karl,
>>
>> I don't know if we can go or not, but, as a teacher, we cannot take
>> off whenever we want during the school year.  In our area, we will
>> be off in June and July and maybe the first week of August.  Any
>> other time might be hard to get teachers there.
>>
>> Best of luck in planning.
>>
>> Barb Uhlman
>> Whisper, #1158
>>
>> --- On Sun, 11/15/09, Karl Mielenhausen _/) <c320 at suddenlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Karl Mielenhausen _/) <c320 at suddenlink.net>
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Planning the 2010 Regatta
>>> To: "C320IA Discussion List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 9:46 AM
>>> C320IA Members:
>>>
>>> Your Governing Board would appreciate your suggestions as
>>> we plan for a 2010 Annual Meeting & Regatta.
>>>
>>> Historically, we have tried to hold one meeting per year,
>>> alternating locations (East coast/West coast).
>>> Timing has most recently been early August.
>>> We'd like to consider all ideas that might result in
>>> greater value and attendance. For example,
>>> Should we hold our events in conjunction with the Catalina
>>> Rendezvous or a regional boat show?
>>> Should we find a different time of year, perhaps extending
>>> your boating season?
>>> What value do you place on the class race (regatta), on
>>> having vendors, on having a formal dinner, etc.
>>> Would a tour of the Largo, FL factory we enough of a draw
>>> to get you to attend?
>>>
>>> Please share your thoughts, either with the entire list, to
>>> me directly (C320 at suddenlink.net),
>>> or by phoning me at (252) 638-1433.
>>>
>>> Thanks....
>>>
>>> --Karl Mielenhausen
>>> Catalina 320 Hull 690
>>> New Bern, NC
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:01:39 -0500
> From: "Chuck and Kathy" <katchu at chartermi.net>
> To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Engine alignment
> Message-ID: <9538D2C683FA4856A477B4F5996F4EA7 at Mastercomp>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Has anyone else had any problems with engine alignment?  I replaced my
> cutlass bearing last spring and thought that was the cause of vibration. 
> In
> trying to align my shaft and engine, I drilled out the forward engine
> mounting brackets in order to shift the front of the engine to port.  The
> engine pan is almost hitting the fiberglass and I'm still a little
> misaligned with a gap on the port side of the shaft connection.  It almost
> seems as if the strut is not at the correct angle.  That, of course, would
> lead to both vibration and cutlass bearing wear.  If I offset the rear of
> the engine to starboard, the engine shaft will not be centered on the prop
> shaft.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts or experiences?
>
>
>
> Chuck Mueller
>
> Northwind #676
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:55:24 -0800
> From: "Bruce Heyman" <bruceheyman at cox.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine alignment
> Message-ID: <00c601ca6729$07829980$1687cc80$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Chuck,
> We aligned our prop shaft last year and the improvement was so dramatic 
> that
> I wish we had done it a couple of years earlier.  Our main alignment issue
> was vertical and ended up raising both the forward and rear engine mounts 
> to
> make sure that the prop shaft was closer to the center of the log.
> We used the method that has you taking a million measurements and then
> averaging everything.  I think someone on the list commented that it was
> more complicated than a lunar insertion and I agree but; it did work.
> While sometimes at idle it sounds like the world is coming to the end as
> soon as you are over 8-900 rpm and in gear it is smooth and quite.
> Bruce
> Somerset #671 SoCal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chuck and
> Kathy
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:02 PM
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Engine alignment
>
> Has anyone else had any problems with engine alignment?  I replaced my
> cutlass bearing last spring and thought that was the cause of vibration. 
> In
> trying to align my shaft and engine, I drilled out the forward engine
> mounting brackets in order to shift the front of the engine to port.  The
> engine pan is almost hitting the fiberglass and I'm still a little
> misaligned with a gap on the port side of the shaft connection.  It almost
> seems as if the strut is not at the correct angle.  That, of course, would
> lead to both vibration and cutlass bearing wear.  If I offset the rear of
> the engine to starboard, the engine shaft will not be centered on the prop
> shaft.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts or experiences?
>
>
>
> Chuck Mueller
>
> Northwind #676
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:50:25 -0500
> From: "Warren Updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer
> vs. older issues
> Message-ID: <BAY114-DS10003E7334A0985C87F44ABEA40 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Phil, I can't tell you when the change was made; but, if you pull a chain 
> plate you can readily tell. In the plate channel through the deck there 
> will be a noticeable space between the deck and interior liner. Normally, 
> this would be filled with cored balsa; but, if there has ever been any 
> water incursion, the balsa would disintegrate leaving a void.
>
> When I first re-bedded, I removed wet balsa with a bent nail in a drill 
> motor. Allow the space to dry. You may be able to accelerate the drying by 
> infusing alcohol. Once dry, fill the space with filled epoxy then re-bed. 
> It's not all that difficult, just time consuming.
>
> I've heard that re-bedding chain plates is recommended every 2-3 years 
> depending on how the boat is used.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sholdr at aol.com [mailto:sholdr at aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:05 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs. 
> older issues
>
> anyone know when the solid vs cored deck change was made -- have #322
> with no evident chain plate leakage but if no solid-deck may rebed to
> avoid unseen problems
>
> Phil Hansen
> Camelot #322
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2009 5:46 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs.
> older issues
>
>
>
> I would focus my decision on usability factors rather than design
> issues.
> Each major model changes has it's pluses and minuses. You will, for the
> most
> part, pay a going rate for the vintage of the model you select. Focus on
> general condition, onboard equipment, prior owner improvements, and how
> well
> a particular configuration fits your intended use within your budget.
>
> More than likely you will want to make your own changes no matter how
> your
> selected boat is configured. You'll replace something or many things
> over
> your time of ownership, so look for the best value for a hull that has
> been
> cared for by the PO.
>
> If the boat is more than 5 years old, plan on replacing lots of things
> in a
> 5 to 10 year period of ownership. If the boat was in salt water it's a
> whole
> different thing than a fresh water boat. Whether it was raced or not
> also
> may make a difference. Those things should make a difference in how you
> assess a particular boat.
>
> In my experience, I bought a 10 year old 320 that had been lightly used
> and
> reasonably cared for. There were some issues but I accepted them as the
> condition was as good or better than others we looked at. I've enjoyed
> making the improvement that enhance its cruising capability. We plan
> two and
> three week cruises for each season.
>
> Our boat has always been in what is mostly fresh water. The rigging is
> in
> good condition and I expect to get to 20 years before having to do
> replacements there. The deck was solid even though I had to immediately
> rebed all the chain plates. On newer hulls (than mine,) the deck is
> solid
> (not cored,) where the chain plates pass through. These decks are not in
> peril as a result of leaking chain plates. Thoroughly investigate any
> signs
> of leaking chain plates if an older hull. A maintenance log from the PO
> would be a plus.
>
> Still, a (now) 15 year old boat will need to have instruments,
> autopilot,
> radio, maybe some plumbing, etc., replaced to keep it's value,
> salability,
> and utility up to date. Just facts of life.
>
> Let us know how you proceed.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Kaldor [mailto:spkaldor at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:20 AM
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs.
> older
> issues
>
> I'm choosing between two 320s... a 1994 vintage and a 1997 vintage.
>
> One of the design differences between the two is the grid liner and
> bilge
> set-up. As  I understand from this site, a deeper bilge with better weep
> holes to drain the pan was added around hull #246 (late 1995). And all
> hulls
> up to #355 have a technical reference bulletin about the need to drill
> access and drain holes throughout the grid liner for regular draining
> to the
> bilge, inspection, etc.
>
> So my questions are ... are these changes/improvements important, or are
> they just footnotes in the design history? If you have an earlier
> design, is
> the grid water draining an issue - did you drill the holes, does water
> collect? If you could choose between a pre-246 hull and a post 355 hull,
> would this even be a consideration? Is there any long-term effect on the
> structural grid members?
>
> I'm curious about your experiences and opinions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sean
> Hull #TBD
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:17:35 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jane & Ken <obuoy4848 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer
> vs. older issues
> Message-ID: <273241.36954.qm at web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Warren,?? Do you recall whether the "infusing alcohol" was irish whiskey 
> or just plain vodka or gin???? Ken
>
> --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs. 
> older issues
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 8:50 PM
>
>
> Phil, I can't tell you when the change was made; but, if you pull a chain 
> plate you can readily tell. In the plate channel through the deck there 
> will be a noticeable space between the deck and interior liner. Normally, 
> this would be filled with cored balsa; but, if there has ever been any 
> water incursion, the balsa would disintegrate leaving a void.
>
> When I first re-bedded, I removed wet balsa with a bent nail in a drill 
> motor. Allow the space to dry. You may be able to accelerate the drying by 
> infusing alcohol. Once dry, fill the space with filled epoxy then re-bed. 
> It's not all that difficult, just time consuming.
>
> I've heard that re-bedding chain plates is recommended every 2-3 years 
> depending on how the boat is used.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sholdr at aol.com [mailto:sholdr at aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:05 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs. 
> older issues
>
> anyone know when the solid vs cored deck change was made -- have #322
> with no evident chain plate leakage but if no solid-deck may rebed to
> avoid unseen problems
>
> Phil Hansen
> Camelot #322
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2009 5:46 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs.
> older issues
>
>
>
> I would focus my decision on usability factors rather than design
> issues.
> Each major model changes has it's pluses and minuses. You will, for the
> most
> part, pay a going rate for the vintage of the model you select. Focus on
> general condition, onboard equipment, prior owner improvements, and how
> well
> a particular configuration fits your intended use within your budget.
>
> More than likely you will want to make your own changes no matter how
> your
> selected boat is configured. You'll replace something or many things
> over
> your time of ownership, so look for the best value for a hull that has
> been
> cared for by the PO.
>
> If the boat is more than 5 years old, plan on replacing lots of things
> in a
> 5 to 10 year period of ownership. If the boat was in salt water it's a
> whole
> different thing than a fresh water boat. Whether it was raced or not
> also
> may make a difference. Those things should make a difference in how you
> assess a particular boat.
>
> In my experience, I bought a 10 year old 320 that had been lightly used
> and
> reasonably cared for. There were some issues but I accepted them as the
> condition was as good or better than others we looked at. I've enjoyed
> making the improvement that enhance its cruising capability. We plan
> two and
> three week cruises for each season.
>
> Our boat has always been in what is mostly fresh water. The rigging is
> in
> good condition and I expect to get to 20 years before having to do
> replacements there. The deck was solid even though I had to immediately
> rebed all the chain plates. On newer hulls (than mine,) the deck is
> solid
> (not cored,) where the chain plates pass through. These decks are not in
> peril as a result of leaking chain plates. Thoroughly investigate any
> signs
> of leaking chain plates if an older hull. A maintenance log from the PO
> would be a plus.
>
> Still, a (now) 15 year old boat will need to have instruments,
> autopilot,
> radio, maybe some plumbing, etc., replaced to keep it's value,
> salability,
> and utility up to date. Just facts of life.
>
> Let us know how you proceed.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Kaldor [mailto:spkaldor at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:20 AM
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer vs.
> older
> issues
>
> I'm choosing between two 320s... a 1994 vintage and a 1997 vintage.
>
> One of the design differences between the two is the grid liner and
> bilge
> set-up. As? I understand from this site, a deeper bilge with better weep
> holes to drain the pan was added around hull #246 (late 1995). And all
> hulls
> up to #355 have a technical reference bulletin about the need to drill
> access and drain holes throughout the grid liner for regular draining
> to the
> bilge, inspection, etc.
>
> So my questions are ... are these changes/improvements important, or are
> they just footnotes in the design history? If you have an earlier
> design, is
> the grid water draining an issue - did you drill the holes, does water
> collect? If you could choose between a pre-246 hull and a post 355 hull,
> would this even be a consideration? Is there any long-term effect on the
> structural grid members?
>
> I'm curious about your experiences and opinions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sean
> Hull #TBD
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:16:37 +1100
> From: "Stephen Cox" <scox at timmin.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer
> vs.older issues
> Message-ID: <51CFDBCC3C4446E8BC6B28E6AA5884C2 at 6S3PC1S>
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> Being clear, I would have thought to use vodka or gin to avoid staining 
> the
> fibreglass.
>
> Stephen Cox
> Tegwen #1141
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>> Jane & Ken
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:18 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question -
>> newer vs.older issues
>>
>> Warren,?? Do you recall whether the "infusing alcohol" was
>> irish whiskey or just plain vodka or gin???? Ken
>>
>> --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:
> .
> .
> .
>>
>> When I first re-bedded, I removed wet balsa with a bent nail
>> in a drill motor. Allow the space to dry. You may be able to
>> accelerate the drying by infusing alcohol. Once dry, fill the
>> space with filled epoxy then re-bed. It's not all that
>> difficult, just time consuming.
>>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:35:52 -0800
> From: "R.G. Miller" <ronaldgmiller at hotmail.com>
> To: <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer
> vs.older issues
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>
> I'm afraid that if I infuse either vodka or gin, I won't be able to see 
> straight ...but I guess I'll have to re-bed alright...lol...
>
>
>
> RG.
>
>
>
>> From: scox at timmin.com
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:16:37 +1100
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question - newer 
>> vs.older issues
>>
>> Being clear, I would have thought to use vodka or gin to avoid staining 
>> the
>> fibreglass.
>>
>> Stephen Cox
>> Tegwen #1141
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>> > Jane & Ken
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:18 PM
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Grid liner & bilge design question -
>> > newer vs.older issues
>> >
>> > Warren,   Do you recall whether the "infusing alcohol" was
>> > irish whiskey or just plain vodka or gin???  Ken
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> >
>> > When I first re-bedded, I removed wet balsa with a bent nail
>> > in a drill motor. Allow the space to dry. You may be able to
>> > accelerate the drying by infusing alcohol. Once dry, fill the
>> > space with filled epoxy then re-bed. It's not all that
>> > difficult, just time consuming.
>> >
>>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:41:51 -0600
> From: "Chris Descher" <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] bottom paint
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> I'm about to have the first bottom job done on my 12 year old, freshwater
> boat.  Without much in the way of available options on who will do the 
> work
> and how it will be done, I really just need to decide whether the estimate
> that I've received is reasonable.  The yard will haul it out, sand blast 
> the
> bottom, then pressure wash the bottom and hull sides, prime the bottom 
> with
> a light coat of bottom paint, then go back with two heavy coats of
> anti-fouling bottom paint, and then apply a third coat along the water 
> line.
> They use Petit Un-epoxy Plus bottom paint.  Any blisters would be dealt 
> with
> separately.
>
> Is there anything about this approach that seems wrong?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Descher
>
>
>
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