[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 548, Issue 2
Kirk McCullough
kirk.mccullough at telus.net
Fri Sep 4 12:06:48 PDT 2009
Hi Bruce
We usually start cruising in April and wind the season down in October. The
winters are normally mild in this area and yes the boat stays in all year.
In fact I often race the winter series as crew on a C&C34. I don't need to
winterize, just keep a couple of low wattage air dryers running to keep a
little warmth in the boat.
We recently did an 18 day cruise in Desolation Sound where the water
temperatures this year were 29 deg Celsius, or 85 deg. F. These are warmer
waters than we find on our vacations in Hawaii or Mexico. Lots of crab,
oysters, clams and salmon too .
Kirk
#124
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
bruceheyman at cox.net
Sent: 02 September 2009 18:02
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 548, Issue 2
Kirk,
How long is your season. Can the boat stay in the water year round?
Bruce
Somerset
SoCal
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:45:02
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 548, Issue 2
A slip at Point Roberts WA, is about $2500.00 per year. Only extra is power
at maybe $200/ year. It's in one of the best cruising areas in N. America.
Kirk
#124
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jack McDonough
Sent: 27 August 2009 18:01
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 548, Issue 2
Tom:
Check the Boston Waterboat Marina. I think they are less than the
Constitution Marina but there is no parking included. Boston Waterboat is
very conveniently located behind the Marriott Longwharf on State St.
jack
#947
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Page" <pagethomasa at gmail.com>
To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 548, Issue 2
> Boston slip vs Mooring
>
> I am on a mooring in Boston Harbor cost me $2600 for the season
> For a slip at Constitution Marina adjacent to Boston, it would have been
> $5544 for season
> Slip in Marina in Boston harbor would have been $6435 for season
>
> Next year I will be getting a slip at constitution marina, anyone in the
> group docking over there?
>
> Tom Page
> Jeannette III Hull #1138
>
>
>
>
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>> 1. Re: Catalina Customer Service (niedobre at aol.com)
>> 2. Re: Mooring or Slip (bruceheyman at cox.net)
>> 3. Re: Value of this forum (Paul Rickman)
>> 4. Re: Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow (Paul Rickman)
>> 5. Re: Whale Fittings (Paul Rickman)
>> 6. Re: Mooring or Slip (Andrew Santangelo)
>> 7. Re: Mooring or Slip (Pat Moriarty)
>> 8. Re: Mooring or Slip (bruceheyman at cox.net)
>> 9. Re: Mooring or Slip (Jim Sweet)
>> 10. Re: Mooring or Slip (bruceheyman at cox.net)
>> 11. Re: Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow (Jon Vez)
>> 12. Re: Mooring or Slip (Jim Sweet)
>> 13. Re: Mooring or Slip (Andrew Santangelo)
>> 14. Re: Mooring or Slip (Mike Paris)
>> 15. Re: Mooring or Slip (Rick Evans)
>> 16. Re: Catalina Customer Service (Ken Danko)
>> 17. Re: A Diesel Fuel Tank Leak (Ken Danko)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:36:28 -0400
>> From: niedobre at aol.com
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Customer Service
>> Message-ID: <8CBF52A21DB6474-2E08-11836 at webmail-d019.sysops.aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> Ken,
>> I found a guy to weld my tank for $20.00 and he even pressure tested it.?
>> I
>> would not buy a new tank if I didn't absolutely have to.? Mine was only
>> leaking in the corner.
>> Gil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ken Danko <ken320 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03 pm
>> Subject: [C320-list] Catalina Customer Service
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,?
>> ?
>>
>> I would like to ask your advice on a customer service problem I am
>> currently experiencing. This is actually a continuation of the saga of
>> the leaky fuel tank. I found the leak, it was on the seam in the lower
>> corner. I called Catalina and said I wanted to order a new tank. The guy
>> I talked to took all my information and said that he would call me back,
>> he was going to check inventory, etc. A week went by and no call back. I
>> called again and got his voice mail. I left a message asking about the
>> status of my order. Another week went by with no call back. I called
>> again and was told that he was on the phone and would I like to leave a
>> message on his voice mail. I said no, and asked the woman to help me.
>> The man I originally talked to came on the line and said that he would
>> email me specs so that I could approve the order, he said that he wanted
>> to make sure that the tank fit. But I never got an email. So here it is
>> two weeks since I originally tried to order the tank and I still haven't
>> been able to place an order. It is prime sailing season. In my opinion
>> the weld on the tank was bad otherwise it should have lasted 20 years or
>> more. I am feeling like I should have bought a Beneteau. What should I
>> do??
>> ?
>>
>> Ken Danko?
>>
>> Grace, #802?
>> ?
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:42:22 +0000
>> From: bruceheyman at cox.net
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID:
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>> Andrew,
>> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the allowed 3'
>> overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is true that No CA
>> is
>> cheaper than So CA.
>> Bruce
>> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:57:10
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> Ahhh - the great mooring vs. slip debate
>>
>> I have to say I am a boat slip person for many reasons:
>>
>> * Very easy for crew to get on and off
>> * I am always training new crew. Dock is better for training for
>> newbies.
>> * Guests - easy for them to use the facilities, and even that last
>> minute run to the head (vs. filling up the holding tank on the boat
>> too quickly).
>> * Kids - easy for kids. Easy access to the play ground, stores, and
>> aforementioned head.
>> * Easier cleaning the boat. Crew also helps cleaning boat - having
>> access to dock, hose(s) etc. makes life so much easier.
>> * Dock AC power is fine and very cheap.
>> * Pressure water off dock is fine - no need to wear down the boat's
>> pressure water pump.
>> * Easy access to laundry facilities.
>> * No need to use launch/dingy all the time.
>> * Easier to have marina and fellow slip mates monitor and check on my
>> boat.
>> * Easier for boat servicing by myself and others
>> * Easier loading/unloading gear.
>> * Never had a problem docking. Never a concern.
>>
>> Now a few more comments:
>>
>> * The marinas I have been at have been very quiet. Even 4th of July -
>> by midnight it is dead. I use and live on my boat a lot and to be
>> honest most of the time the marinas are dead silent except for sea
>> gulls and such. Which adds to my surprise statement - there was some
>> concern keeping my boat at Pier 39 on Fisherman's Wharf in downtown
>> San Francisco. The crowds, the noise and the mayhem. The truth be
>> told - at the marina it is very quiet. Shockingly quiet. I would
>> never know I am in a big city. As a matter of fact, in the morning
>> going to work it seems very few people are in SFO. Does any one work
>> before 10:00 AM there???? Also does anyone use their boats there?
>> There are a few live a boards, quiet and very nice, but otherwise the
>> boats just sit and do nothing. So no one will convince me it is
>> loud and rowdy at the marinas I have been at. Rarely see any of it.
>>
>> * Cost. Yes moorings are cheap, but slips are not that bad. I pay
>> under $400/month and it includes $3/day for parking in downtown SFO.
>> That is everything - water, electric, slip. Heck, one cannot park
>> that cheap in SFO! In Michigan it averaged about $400/month and that
>> included the yacht club membership. Either way, this cost is not bad
>> for all the added perks, convenience and time savings.
>>
>> Lastly, I have been a die hard sailor for 26 seasons, and for me the
>> slip is the only way to go. Do I anchor and explore, certainly. But
>> the main base is a slip. Keeps it easy for crew, family, friends,
>> newbies and "Dawn Treader".
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Andrew
>>
>> C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> #333
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:52:11 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Value of this forum
>> Message-ID: <170857.82620.qm at web84305.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> I am wondering if the clamp should be moved from time to time, this to
>> prevent wearing throug the
>> cable casing???
>>
>> Paul
>> Affinity 657
>> Bay Bridge Marina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mike Paris <mparis495 at gmail.com>
>> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:07:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Value of this forum
>>
>> A couple of years ago mine was doing the same thing - the throttle lever
>> would not stay above 2300. We tightened the bolt slightly and the problem
>> was solved. It is sort of like a c-clamp and it presses on the cable
>> casing.
>> Mine is accessable from the aft engine compartment.
>>
>> Mike P
>> 734
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Bill Sloane <southsoundbill at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > Are you saying I make the adjustment at the engine and do not need to
>> take
>> > off the compass?
>> >
>> > Bill.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Mike Paris <mparis495 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is clamp on the throttle cable down at the engine that adjusts
>> >> the
>> >> tension by turning a bolt that puts pressure on the cable. Have
>> >> someone
>> >> adjust the tension on the bolt while you move the throttle lever to
>> >> set
>> it
>> >> how you would like it.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Bill Sloane <southsoundbill at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I agree too.? My throttle problem is a little different.? Above 2,000
>> >>> RPM's,
>> >>> the throttle will fall back to a lower speed. To cruise at 2,500
>> >>> RPM's
>> or
>> >>> above, I have to tie the throttle to the vertical post of the NavPod
>> with
>> >>> a
>> >>> small rope.? I am thinking that if I take the compass off the
>> >>> housing,
>> >>> there
>> >>> must be a nut to tighten to keep this from happening.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bill
>> >>> No. 554
>> >>> 'Endless Summer'
>> >>> Olympia WA
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Rick Evans <
>> ericstillwellevans at gmail.com
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Gil
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I agree about the value of the group. I had that problem for a whole
>> >>>> season
>> >>>> before I decided to ask the group. It even resulted in me Shearing a
>> >>>> throttle lever bolt. I also assumed it was the cable but I asked
>> >>>> here
>> >>>> first
>> >>>> and was amazed.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Saved money and most likely two days upside down in some not very
>> >>>> fun
>> >>>> positions.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Rick
>> >>>> 724
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: niedobre at aol.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:36:25
>> >>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> >>>> Subject: [C320-list] Value of this forum
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Less than 2 hours ago I asked for some information about a throttle
>> cable
>> >>>> that was seized.? I assumed the cable was the problem.? I was
>> >>>> advised
>> >>>> within
>> >>>> less than an hour to disconnect the cable and check the linkage on
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> engine by two members who had the same problem.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I ran down to the boat to take their advice.? The cable was not
>> seized,
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> linkage to the engine was the problem.? I sprayed some corrosion
>> buster
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> the lever linkage worked it up and down and now it is fixed.? I was
>> ready
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> buy a new cable and replace it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Saved time and $$$$$.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Gil s/v Amara #731
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>> Message-ID: <61483.46513.qm at web84304.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> I recently found a welder who repaired the pin hole but he did caution
>> that
>> this was temporary
>> but probably would get me through the season and winter storage. So this
>> winter I plan to
>> either get a new one made from Catalina or buy the standard Yanmar parts.
>> I
>> have a question
>> about the putting the parts together. Is it necessary to put anything on
>> the threads when fitting
>> them together?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>> Affinity 657
>> Bay Bridge Marina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:13:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>>
>> Walter, you have two options--you can send your current elbow to Catalina
>> and they will make you a new one. Unbelievably (especially for a
>> production
>> boat), they don't have these on the shelf and apparently they are all
>> slightly different.
>> The other option is to 'convert' to a yanmar standard set up, which are
>> used
>> on newer hulls. If you buy a yanmar stock setup (from a Yanmar
>> distributor),
>> you need to buy 3 pieces--the riser, a connector and the elbow. Be
>> careful
>> though as most of the Catalina custom elbows are 1 5/8" and the standard
>> Yanmar is 2"? If you take this route, you have to adapt to your muffler
>> intake (where the hose attaches from the exhaust), which will match the 1
>> 5/8" hose diameter. Hope this helps...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>> Solstice #582
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Walter
>> Schaffer
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:02 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>>
>> Can anyone tell me how I can get a new Catalina Custom Exhaust Elblow.
>> Mine
>> has developed a pin hole is is rusting bad... There is a pix of one on
>> the
>> Assn. wedsite under tech notes. ?I contacted local Yanmar dealer in
>> Annapolis... and was told they have no such part.After taking heat
>> packing
>> off mixing elbow, it looks like it connects on engine end to a simple
>> exhaust elbow. And the other end hooks to muffler hose.... Engine water
>> enters horse shoe mixing elbow...If anyone has dealt with replacement, I
>> would appreciate some info.Thanks, Walt Schaffer Bohemian II, #515
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whale Fittings
>> Message-ID: <17285.11488.qm at web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> In this same area, just off that short hose and quick connect fitting is
>> a
>> short backflow preventer (Whale) that
>> then fits into another quick connect fitting, both Whale. I've replaced
>> the
>> two quick connect fittings
>> but not the back flow prevener which is the same diameter as the reqular
>> water line. Just at the end of a two day cruise, the back flow preventer
>> blew out of the "T" connector. This is the third time this has happened.
>> Apparently Whale has changed the back flow, it is shorter and just won't
>> work with my set up. Have any
>> of you had this experience and do you have a solution for it? Do you
>> think
>> extending the length of hose
>> would be a good fix? (to get it away from the heat) I've tried working
>> with
>> the West Marine Store in Annapolis just off Forrest Drive, but most of
>> the
>> Whale fittings there are in a box marked "quick connect"
>> sitting on a high shelf and no on display. They don't really seem
>> interested in working with the customer on
>> this sort of problem.
>>
>> IMHO the heat here may have something to do with the blow out. But it has
>> worked for many years.
>> My experience is the same with the newer fittings, no cap, no C spacer.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>> Affinity 657
>> Bay Bridge Marina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:04:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whale Fittings
>>
>> BTW, right at the start of this summers 2 week 'mini cruise' to Maine, I
>> had to replace the short (2 inch?) piece of hose at the hot water heater
>> you
>> mention.? Goodness knows why Catalina used such a short length.?
>> Interesting
>> chore while underway.? THIS time, I replaced it with a 6 inch length of
>> hose
>> (keeping another 6 inch piece as spare), figuring if either end leaked
>> again, I'd have room to cut the bad section away without replacing the
>> whole
>> run.? It also made working with the overall assembly easier.
>>
>> Bob Seastream
>> Intuition # 906
>>
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2009, at 11:36 AM, BAdams3491 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > Dave,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the tip.? Yesterday I did what you suggested...in? fact I
>> > left
>> > the cap off since it really does not do anything.? Worked? great.
>> >
>> > Bert
>> > At Ease
>> > #442
>> >
>> >
>> > In a message dated 8/18/2009 8:27:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> > djgleason1 at juno.com writes:
>> >
>> > Bert:
>> >
>> > I have experienced a similar problem with one of the? fittings.? The
>> > cap
>> > is there to keep the "C" spacer in place so that it? does not come off
>> > accidently.? What I have done is to break the cap to? remove the C
>> spacer.
>> > When I reinstalled the fitting, I simply wrapped a? piece of tape
>> > around
>> > the fitting to keep the "C" spacer in place.? I? note that the
>> replacement
>> > fittings I have used no longer use the Cap or the? "C" spacer.
>> >
>> > Dave Gleason
>> > Proud Mary, #150
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 16 Aug? 2009 12:40:12 EDT BAdams3491 at aol.com writes:
>> >> I have the standard 15mm? Whale fittings on my fresh water? system.
>> >> They
>> >> all come apart as they should except the two 90 degree? fittings
>> >> that go into
>> >> the hot water heater.? The connection away from? the? heater pops off
>> >> as
>> >> normal with the cap that? secures it sliding away from the
>> >> connection.? However
>> >> the side that connects to the water heater will not? come? off...hot
>> >> and cold
>> >> same problem.? The cap will not? 'pop' off.? When I try to pop it
>> >> off with
>> >> a small? screw driver, it will come partially off? at that one point,
>> >> but
>> >> that's all.? It's off far enough so the cap that? should? come off is
>> >> tight
>> >> enough so that it cannot be turned so I? can get at the? other
>> >> opening on the
>> >> opposite side to? try to get it off.? The other? problem is that the
>> >> fitting? is
>> >> so close to the heater that there is not enough? room for the? cap to
>> >> slide
>> >> back ...which appears to be why it won't pop? off in? the first
>> >> place.
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions? certainly appreciated.? Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Bert
>> >> At? Ease
>> >> #442
>> >>
>> >
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:07:33 -0600
>> From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <45A92CC9-DDD8-49D2-B5BC-DC3D125FF0AC at mac.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>>
>> To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> surprised.
>>
>> Andrew
>> C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> #333
>>
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> > Andrew,
>> > What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> > allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> > true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset 741 SoCal
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:17:07 -0500
>> From: Pat Moriarty <patm at psiurethanes.com>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <20090827141710.449112000E75 at proxy0.logixcom.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>> Latitude 38 ran a slip cost around the Bay a few years back and I was
>> shocked to find several places were less than I pay on a lake in
>> Texas but at over $500 you go me beat.
>>
>> Pat #130
>>
>>
>> At 09:07 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>> >Bruce,
>> >
>> >The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >
>> >To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> >surprised.
>> >
>> >Andrew
>> >C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> >#333
>> >
>> >
>> >On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> >>Andrew,
>> >>What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >>allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >>true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >>Bruce
>> >>Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >>Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>>
>> Pat Moriarty
>> PSI Urethanes Inc
>> PH: 800-888-5156 Fax: 512-837-8733
>> Please visit our web site at
>> www.psiurethanes.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:18:42 +0000
>> From: bruceheyman at cox.net
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
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>> Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including electric.
>> Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> Bruce
>> Somerset SoCal
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Andrew Santangelo
>> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>>
>> To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> surprised.
>>
>> Andrew
>> C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> #333
>>
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> > Andrew,
>> > What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> > allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> > true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset 741 SoCal
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:32:24 -0500
>> From: "Jim Sweet" <jamesweet at frontiernet.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <66C066DEFB2B494F87018F49CEDD8EC2 at jamesweetPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Our slip @ the Sodus Bay Yacht club is $1200 per season so it's about
>> $200
>> per month. That's on Lake Ontario and it's pretty representative of the
>> costs locally.
>>
>> Jim Sweet
>> TGIF (Thank God It Floats) 901
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> > Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including electric.
>> > Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset SoCal
>> > ------Original Message------
>> > From: Andrew Santangelo
>> > Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> > Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>> >
>> > Bruce,
>> >
>> > The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >
>> > To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> > surprised.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> > C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> > #333
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >> allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >> true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >> Bruce
>> >> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:37:09 +0000
>> From: bruceheyman at cox.net
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
>>
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>> Jim,
>> Floating docks?
>> Bruce
>> Somerset 671 SoCal
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Jim Sweet" <jamesweet at frontiernet.net>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:32:24
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> Our slip @ the Sodus Bay Yacht club is $1200 per season so it's about
>> $200
>> per month. That's on Lake Ontario and it's pretty representative of the
>> costs locally.
>>
>> Jim Sweet
>> TGIF (Thank God It Floats) 901
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> > Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including electric.
>> > Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset SoCal
>> > ------Original Message------
>> > From: Andrew Santangelo
>> > Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> > Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>> >
>> > Bruce,
>> >
>> > The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >
>> > To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> > surprised.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> > C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> > #333
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >> allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >> true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >> Bruce
>> >> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:38:19 -0400
>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>> Message-ID: <003301ca2724$0583f380$108bda80$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Just as an FYI on the repair or replace discussion. When I replaced mine,
>> I
>> found that Catalina has gone with a thicker gauge aluminum. It's sounding
>> more and more like the front corner leak is/was a systemic issue as that
>> is
>> where mine appeared...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>> Solstice #582
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Paul
>> Rickman
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:17 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>>
>> I recently found a welder who repaired the pin hole but he did caution
>> that
>> this was temporary
>> but probably would get me through the season and winter storage. So this
>> winter I plan to
>> either get a new one made from Catalina or buy the standard Yanmar parts.
>> I
>> have a question
>> about the putting the parts together. Is it necessary to put anything on
>> the
>> threads when fitting
>> them together?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>> Affinity 657
>> Bay Bridge Marina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:13:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>>
>> Walter, you have two options--you can send your current elbow to Catalina
>> and they will make you a new one. Unbelievably (especially for a
>> production
>> boat), they don't have these on the shelf and apparently they are all
>> slightly different.
>> The other option is to 'convert' to a yanmar standard set up, which are
>> used
>> on newer hulls. If you buy a yanmar stock setup (from a Yanmar
>> distributor),
>> you need to buy 3 pieces--the riser, a connector and the elbow. Be
>> careful
>> though as most of the Catalina custom elbows are 1 5/8" and the standard
>> Yanmar is 2"? If you take this route, you have to adapt to your muffler
>> intake (where the hose attaches from the exhaust), which will match the 1
>> 5/8" hose diameter. Hope this helps...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>> Solstice #582
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Walter
>> Schaffer
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:02 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>>
>> Can anyone tell me how I can get a new Catalina Custom Exhaust Elblow.
>> Mine
>> has developed a pin hole is is rusting bad... There is a pix of one on
>> the
>> Assn. wedsite under tech notes. ?I contacted local Yanmar dealer in
>> Annapolis... and was told they have no such part.After taking heat
>> packing
>> off mixing elbow, it looks like it connects on engine end to a simple
>> exhaust elbow. And the other end hooks to muffler hose.... Engine water
>> enters horse shoe mixing elbow...If anyone has dealt with replacement, I
>> would appreciate some info.Thanks, Walt Schaffer Bohemian II, #515
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:52:35 -0500
>> From: "Jim Sweet" <jamesweet at frontiernet.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <774B0E53F7694490B41FBC140DC51A9A at jamesweetPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Yep. The bad news is we need to pull them Oct 15th for the season
>> because
>> the bay we're on ices up in the winter.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> > Jim,
>> > Floating docks?
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset 671 SoCal
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: "Jim Sweet" <jamesweet at frontiernet.net>
>> >
>> > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:32:24
>> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> >
>> >
>> > Our slip @ the Sodus Bay Yacht club is $1200 per season so it's about
>> $200
>> > per month. That's on Lake Ontario and it's pretty representative of
>> > the
>> > costs locally.
>> >
>> > Jim Sweet
>> > TGIF (Thank God It Floats) 901
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
>> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:18 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> >
>> >
>> >> Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including
>> >> electric.
>> >> Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> >> Bruce
>> >> Somerset SoCal
>> >> ------Original Message------
>> >> From: Andrew Santangelo
>> >> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> >> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> >> ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> >> Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>> >>
>> >> Bruce,
>> >>
>> >> The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >>
>> >> To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> >> surprised.
>> >>
>> >> Andrew
>> >> C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> >> #333
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Andrew,
>> >>> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >>> allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >>> true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >>> Bruce
>> >>> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:56:08 -0600
>> From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <D84F3917-3A46-470C-B72C-480F10914371 at mac.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>
>> On Lake Michigan on the Michigan side a slip, with haul out and winter
>> storage costs included, would run an average of $400 - $550/month.
>> Now you can keep the boat in the water in the winter with bubblers
>> running saving you money, however the wear and tear is not worth it.
>>
>> Of course the bonus here in SFO is sailing all year long (same for FL,
>> So Cal, Texas, etc). No haul outs for the winter. The big pain I am
>> learning - salt water does age a boat. :-(
>>
>> -- Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:18 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> > Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including
>> > electric.
>> > Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset SoCal
>> > ------Original Message------
>> > From: Andrew Santangelo
>> > Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> > Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>> >
>> > Bruce,
>> >
>> > The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >
>> > To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> > surprised.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> > C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> > #333
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >> allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >> true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >> Bruce
>> >> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:06:31 -0700
>> From: Mike Paris <mparis495 at gmail.com>
>> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <0191DD48-F2F8-4062-88E5-2173228345C2 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed;
>> delsp=yes
>>
>> My slip (35') at Alamitos Bay in Long Beach (S. Cal) is $370 and this
>> includes utilities.
>>
>> Mike P
>> 734
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 5:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> > Andrew,
>> > What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> > allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> > true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset 741 SoCal
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
>> >
>> > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:57:10
>> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> >
>> >
>> > Ahhh - the great mooring vs. slip debate
>> >
>> > I have to say I am a boat slip person for many reasons:
>> >
>> > * Very easy for crew to get on and off
>> > * I am always training new crew. Dock is better for training for
>> > newbies.
>> > * Guests - easy for them to use the facilities, and even that last
>> > minute run to the head (vs. filling up the holding tank on the boat
>> > too quickly).
>> > * Kids - easy for kids. Easy access to the play ground, stores, and
>> > aforementioned head.
>> > * Easier cleaning the boat. Crew also helps cleaning boat - having
>> > access to dock, hose(s) etc. makes life so much easier.
>> > * Dock AC power is fine and very cheap.
>> > * Pressure water off dock is fine - no need to wear down the boat's
>> > pressure water pump.
>> > * Easy access to laundry facilities.
>> > * No need to use launch/dingy all the time.
>> > * Easier to have marina and fellow slip mates monitor and check on my
>> > boat.
>> > * Easier for boat servicing by myself and others
>> > * Easier loading/unloading gear.
>> > * Never had a problem docking. Never a concern.
>> >
>> > Now a few more comments:
>> >
>> > * The marinas I have been at have been very quiet. Even 4th of July -
>> > by midnight it is dead. I use and live on my boat a lot and to be
>> > honest most of the time the marinas are dead silent except for sea
>> > gulls and such. Which adds to my surprise statement - there was some
>> > concern keeping my boat at Pier 39 on Fisherman's Wharf in downtown
>> > San Francisco. The crowds, the noise and the mayhem. The truth be
>> > told - at the marina it is very quiet. Shockingly quiet. I would
>> > never know I am in a big city. As a matter of fact, in the morning
>> > going to work it seems very few people are in SFO. Does any one work
>> > before 10:00 AM there???? Also does anyone use their boats there?
>> > There are a few live a boards, quiet and very nice, but otherwise the
>> > boats just sit and do nothing. So no one will convince me it is
>> > loud and rowdy at the marinas I have been at. Rarely see any of it.
>> >
>> > * Cost. Yes moorings are cheap, but slips are not that bad. I pay
>> > under $400/month and it includes $3/day for parking in downtown SFO.
>> > That is everything - water, electric, slip. Heck, one cannot park
>> > that cheap in SFO! In Michigan it averaged about $400/month and that
>> > included the yacht club membership. Either way, this cost is not bad
>> > for all the added perks, convenience and time savings.
>> >
>> > Lastly, I have been a die hard sailor for 26 seasons, and for me the
>> > slip is the only way to go. Do I anchor and explore, certainly. But
>> > the main base is a slip. Keeps it easy for crew, family, friends,
>> > newbies and "Dawn Treader".
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> > #333
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:12:28 +0000
>> From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
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>> As for aging a boat. Its 6 of one half a dozen of another as they say.
>>
>> Keeping the boat in the water all the time is much better for a boat
>> structurally. All the loads and pressures are placed on the right
>> stringers
>> and stress factors of the boat.
>>
>> Out of the water especially here in NY the boat sits on stands and with
>> the
>> extreme temperature fluctuations the boat and materials expand and
>> contract
>> while the ground and the boat stands don't.
>>
>> This is evident to me in the winter on the hard when I go to my boat and
>> the rear state room door doesn't close and the bilge is hard to remove
>> etc.
>>
>> I'm sure leaving it the water is harder on the finishes but its easier on
>> the structure.
>>
>> Plus I wish I could sail all year long.
>>
>> Rick 724
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:56:08
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> On Lake Michigan on the Michigan side a slip, with haul out and winter
>> storage costs included, would run an average of $400 - $550/month.
>> Now you can keep the boat in the water in the winter with bubblers
>> running saving you money, however the wear and tear is not worth it.
>>
>> Of course the bonus here in SFO is sailing all year long (same for FL,
>> So Cal, Texas, etc). No haul outs for the winter. The big pain I am
>> learning - salt water does age a boat. :-(
>>
>> -- Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:18 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> > Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including
>> > electric.
>> > Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset SoCal
>> > ------Original Message------
>> > From: Andrew Santangelo
>> > Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> > Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>> >
>> > Bruce,
>> >
>> > The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >
>> > To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> > surprised.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> > C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> > #333
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >> allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >> true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >> Bruce
>> >> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:09:01 -0700
>> From: Ken Danko <ken320 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Customer Service
>> Message-ID: <4A96AF9D.6060706 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> I'm a little hesitant to call Frank Butler. I don't want to be a
>> troublesome customer and I don't want to get anyone in trouble but I
>> sure would like to have a new fuel tank delivered in a timely manner. I
>> emailed my broker who emailed someone at Catalina. So we will see. It
>> has been over two weeks since I first called Catalina to order a tank
>> and I still haven't been able to place an order.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Burti wrote:
>> > Call Catalina in California and ask to speak with Frank Butler. He will
>> > speak with you or will definitely return your call within a couple of
>> days
>> > at most...usually faster. Tell him what you told us as politley as you
>> told
>> > us and ask for his assitance.
>> >
>> > I found him to be a great customer service rep...unusual in that it is
>> his
>> > company ane he is the CEO...
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Ken Danko <ken320 at sbcglobal.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I would like to ask your advice on a customer service problem I am
>> >> currently experiencing. This is actually a continuation of the saga of
>> the
>> >> leaky fuel tank. I found the leak, it was on the seam in the lower
>> corner. I
>> >> called Catalina and said I wanted to order a new tank. The guy I
>> >> talked
>> to
>> >> took all my information and said that he would call me back, he was
>> going to
>> >> check inventory, etc. A week went by and no call back. I called again
>> and
>> >> got his voice mail. I left a message asking about the status of my
>> order.
>> >> Another week went by with no call back. I called again and was told
>> >> that
>> he
>> >> was on the phone and would I like to leave a message on his voice
>> >> mail.
>> I
>> >> said no, and asked the woman to help me. The man I originally talked
>> >> to
>> came
>> >> on the line and said that he would email me specs so that I could
>> approve
>> >> the order, he said that he wanted to make sure that the tank fit. But
>> >> I
>> >> never got an email. So here it is two weeks since I originally tried
>> >> to
>> >> order the tank and I still haven't been able to place an order. It is
>> prime
>> >> sailing season. In my opinion the weld on the tank was bad otherwise
>> >> it
>> >> should have lasted 20 years or more. I am feeling like I should have
>> bought
>> >> a Beneteau. What should I do?
>> >>
>> >> Ken Danko
>> >> Grace, #802
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:11:40 -0700
>> From: Ken Danko <ken320 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] A Diesel Fuel Tank Leak
>> Message-ID: <4A96B03C.6090703 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Larry:
>>
>> I'm starting to get desperate enough to try a fix like this. Everyone I
>> talk to at various boat yards tells me that these solutions are only
>> temporary and that the tank will develop a new leak soon after fixing
>> the old leak.
>>
>> The problem as I see it is the great effort it takes to replace tanks. I
>> really don't want to do it twice if I can help it.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Melissa&Larry Leibman wrote:
>> > Ken,
>> >
>> > If you know you are going to replace the tank anyway, I'm wondering if
>> > a
>> repair product like the one at the link below would be a temporary fix
>> just
>> to keep you sailing in the meantime:
>> >
>> >
>>
http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1297554&kw=gas+tank&o
rigkw=gas+tank&searchId=43201106574
>> >
>> > Not sure if this particular one is good for diesel but they must have
>> similar stuff for that.
>> >
>> > Larry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> End of C320-list Digest, Vol 548, Issue 2
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