[C320-list] Starting Battery

[Chris Burti]

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On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:

> No problem. Send me a draft and I'll review it. ...in case I lied somewhere
> along the way.   :)
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:33:43
> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Starting Battery
>
> Hey Jeff,
> Any objection to my editing this into a tech article and stealing any
> photos
> that I can find off the website?
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Paul,
> >
> > It should work fine.  The wires that might be on the forward battery
> > terminals are:  (Sorry this got longer than I anticipated)
> >
> > Fwd 4d GROUND:
> > 1) A large BLACK ground wire connecting to the other 4D ground terminal
> > 2) A smaller BLACK ground wire going to the Windlass ground
> >
> > Fwd 4d POWER:
> > 3) A Large RED power going to the battery selector switch
> > 4) A smaller RED power coming from the battery Charger.
> > 5) A smaller RED power going to the Windlass breaker
> >
> > The general idea here is to jumper the pair of 4Ds in Parallel. (+ to +)
> > and (- to -) The Grounds are already connected by a short jumper.  You
> just
> > do the same thing with the Power terminals.
> >
> > Then on the forward 4D: you remove the wire going to the selector (#3
> > above) and the Shore Power wire (#4 above) and connect those to the power
> > terminal of the starting battery.
> >
> > For the Negative terminal of the starting battery, you simply need to add
> a
> > short FAT jumper over to the Negative terminal of the forward 4D to
> complete
> > the task.
> >
> > So you end up with:
> > ===================
> > * A single large house battery bank that will provide a few more usable
> Amp
> > hours than when using them individually.  The battery selector position
> that
> > used to select the AFT 4D is now the "House" battery.
> >
> > * An emergency Starting battery that can be selected by using the
> selector
> > position that used to be the FORWARD 4D.  This is now the "Starting"
> > battery.
> >
> > * Normally you can just leave the battery switch selected to "House" and
> > use the house bank to start the engine, and run the world.  If the house
> > bank won't crank the engine because it's too run down, just switch to the
> > Starting battery and start it up.  It'll be fully charged since it's
> > isolated from the house bank.  Switch to ALL when motoring to recharge
> the
> > house bank and top off the starting battery.
> >
> > NOTE: The Shore Power Charger will charge both the house and starting
> > battery *automatically* whenever you're plugged in regardless of what you
> do
> > with the selector switch since it bypasses the selector switch.
> >
> > My Recommendation is to add a Blue Seas ACR (my preference) or battery
> > combiner that will automatically keep the starting battery charged
> whenever
> > there is a charge source on the house battery.  Then, for all intents and
> > purposes, you just leave the selector set to "House" and the starting
> > battery is automatically maintained both when motoring and when plugged
> into
> > shore power.
> >
> > It's a great upgrade to add a Link 2000 monitor or digital volt meter on
> > the panel to keep an eye on battery voltages.  The analog meter on the
> panel
> > is really useless. :)
> >
> > I would also suggest an automotive AGM starting battery.  An Exide
> Orbital
> > or something similar. They can be mounted in any position, charge very
> fast
> > and don't leak.  Don't make the mistake of getting a combination deep
> > cycle/starting battery for this, this is important.
> >
> > BTW, my starting battery is sitting on a shelf I added in the space just
> > forward of the forward 4D.  I think there are pictures of the shelf on
> the
> > website.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > -Jeff
> >
> > PS: Feel free to give me a call on my cell anytime if you just want to
> chat
> > about details or alternatives.  (603) 490-9624
> >
> >
> > Quoting Paul Adison <pjaarch at verizon.net>:
> >
> > I love the idea of this but does this really work?  I have (3) wires
> >> running to the terminals on the forward battery (#2).  I don't know
> >> what they all are.  The wiring diagram only shows 1 wire to each
> >> terminal.  Don't I have to isolate only the wire from the switch to the
> >> new starting battery?  Then I can run the 2 4D batteries  in parallel
> >> as mentioned below.  Another friend of mine ran a new 4D from the port
> >> side and ran it parallel to battery #1.  Very simple.  My boat lists to
> >> port and I don't want to add any more weight to the port side.  I would
> >> love to know the answer to this.  I feel that I am missing something.
> >>
> >> On May 26, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Robert Seastream wrote:
> >>
> >> One of the simplest solutions comes from Jeff Hare.  Presuming your
> >>>  batteries are under the starboard settee, place whatever 'starting'
> >>>  battery you purchase in the space forward of those batteries.
> Disconnect
> >>> the leads from the battery furthest forward (battery 1,  I think), and
> >>> connect those leads to the 'starting' battery.  Next,  buy two heavy
> gauge
> >>> battery cables (3 feet or so), and parallel the  original house battery
> 1 to
> >>> battery 2.  The end result is that  you'll have a 'start' battery on
> >>> position one of the battery  switch, and have both 'house' batteries on
> >>> position 2 of the  battery switch.  I put black tape over switch
> position 1
> >>> as a  caution that it wasn't to be used as a 'house' battery.
> >>>
> >>> Bob Seastream
> >>> Intuition # 906
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On May 26, 2010, at 4:51 PM, jpmesa at aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ours is under the starboard sette the area (middle) next to the
>  holding
> >>>> tank.  We also have an extra battery switch so we can  separate the
> starter
> >>>> battery from the main system when we are at  anchor.  John     Holokai
> 2
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Sam & Suz Weston <ssweston at embarqmail.com>
> >>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> >>>> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:43 pm
> >>>> Subject: [C320-list] Starting Battery
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm considering adding a starting battery to complement my two  D-4's.
> >>>>  Could
> >>>> omeone help me with the placement of the battery and the  connection
> >>>> process ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Chris Burti Farmville, NC
>



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