[C320-list] c - 320 for sale
Pat Kenefick
pkenefick at embarqmail.com
Mon Apr 18 12:37:45 PDT 2011
We have decided to part with our 320 in order to move up to the new 355; the
320 has been great and as a result of our cruising for the past 6 months on
it the only reason for selling is to have a little more space on board.
We have a 2001 model, hull number 833, been well maintained, new canvas and
enclosure; heat / air; full enclosure/ screen also; c - 80 chart plotter;
auto - pilot; new batteries this year etc. Please contact me if there is any
interested party. 252 923 0577 - not listed yet with a broker. We are in
process of bringing boat back from FL. trip to NC
Pat Kenefick
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> 1. Re: Yanmar Problem (wflowe3 at aim.com)
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> 3. Re: Prices for used boats (Greg Arnold)
> 4. Re: Prices for used boats (ericstillwellevans at gmail.com)
> 5. Re: Yanmar Problem (Jeff Hare)
> 6. Re: Yanmar Problem (Jeff Hare)
> 7. Re: Prices for used boats (Irving Grunes)
> 8. Re: Yanmar Problem (Mike Ott)
> 9. Re: Prices for used boats (Karl Mielenhausen _/))
> 10. Re: Yanmar Problem (David J Cardoza)
> 11. Re: Yanmar Problem (Fred LEcuyer)
> 12. Re: Yanmar Problem (Jeff Hare)
> 13. Re: Yanmar Problem (Brad Kuether)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:28:31 -0400 (EDT)
> From: wflowe3 at aim.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
> Message-ID: <8CDCB4CC4CC96D0-790-34503 at Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>
> Get 3 or 4' of plastic tubing the same id as the intake hose. Get a
> plastic barb that fits into both the intake hose and the tubing. Connect
> the two together and secure with hose clamps. Set the bucket of water in
> the cockpit and run the tubing through the portlight to the bucket. Fill
> the tube/hose with water--stick the end in the bucket and start the engine
> unless there is a major blockage or the pump isn't working, the extra head
> from the elevated bucket should push out airlocks and get the pump primed
> and running. This is the method I use to get anitfreeze into the system
> for winterizing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Aberdale <summerwind3 at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Sun, Apr 17, 2011 11:54 am
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
>
>
> Thanks for your responses. I inspected the impeller after I started
> it. There are no missing vanes or cracks. There are no air leaks in
> the line. I think water is getting to the pump because the large
> clear plastic filter in the line is filled with water. The boat is on
> the hard. I have the water intake hose disconnected from the thru
> hull and in a pail of water about six inches higher than the pump.
>
> Joe
> #908
>
> On Apr 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Karl Krueger wrote:
>
>> Hello Joe:
>>
>> How old is the impeller? Did you examine it to determine if the
>> vanes were
>> damaged or cracking? If it's older and it sat all winter it's
>> possible that
>> one of the vanes broke off when the engine started.
>>
>> Also, check the through hull value, make certain it is open and
>> water is
>> coming in. It maybe the opening in clogged.
>>
>> Best wishes.
>>
>> Karl Krueger (Kindred Spirit #282, MKE WI)
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Joseph Aberdale
>> <summerwind3 at comcast.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I started my Yanmar in my 2002 320 and it was working fine. After
>>> about 5
>>> minutes, it stopped sucking cooling water. Prior to starting, I
>>> opened the
>>> water pump and the impeller looked fine. It now refuses to suck up
>>> water
>>> from the pail. Does anyone have any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> #908
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI, CDPE
>> RE/MAX Realty 100
>> Phone - 414-322-6541
>> Fax - 414-327-6870
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:04:40 EDT
> From: Dennyats at aol.com
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Prices for used boats
> Message-ID: <8c5e2.19834164.3adcafe8 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> I am looking for a website that records the used boat selling prices. I
> know I saw it once but unable to find it. Any ideas?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 14:16:10 -0700
> From: Greg Arnold <SoarXC at cox.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Prices for used boats
> Message-ID: <4DAB589A.5000307 at cox.net>
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>
> On 4/17/2011 2:04 PM, Dennyats at aol.com wrote:
>> I am looking for a website that records the used boat selling prices. I
>> know I saw it once but unable to find it. Any ideas?
>>
>
> First item here:
>
> http://www.catalina320.com/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=21
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:29:36 +0000
> From: ericstillwellevans at gmail.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Prices for used boats
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> BUC valu
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Arnold <SoarXC at cox.net>
> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.comDate: Sun, 17 Apr 2011
> 14:16:10
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Reply-To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Prices for used boats
>
> On 4/17/2011 2:04 PM, Dennyats at aol.com wrote:
>> I am looking for a website that records the used boat selling prices. I
>> know I saw it once but unable to find it. Any ideas?
>>
>
> First item here:
>
> http://www.catalina320.com/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=21
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:31:15 -0400
> From: Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
> Message-ID: <56c5f2ae-35ff-45b9-a9de-30e2c1106f05 at email.android.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Like Allan, we used to have that problem too. We replaced the raw water
> pump assembly for about $160 and it primes instantly at an idle ever
> since.
>
> We added a T-fitting in the raw water line after the strainer that allows
> us hook a short section of garden hose when flushing/winterizing. We use a
> 5 gal jug with a shutoff valve that sits in the cockpit and the hose feeds
> through the small hatch into aft cabin. With the water hose adjusted to
> keep the jug full it's super easy. There is a picture on the website.
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
> "allan.field at verizon.net" <allan.field at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> To suck water out of a bucket the engine needs VERY high rpm's in my
> experience. I run I excess of 2000 when trying this. Allan S Field Sent
> via DROID X on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Joseph
> Aberdale <summerwind3 at comcast.net> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com Sent:
> Sun, Apr 17, 2011 16:54:22 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar
> Problem Thanks for your responses. I inspected the impeller after I
> started it. There are no missing vanes or cracks. There are no air leaks
> in the line. I think water is getting to the pump because the large clear
> plastic filter in the line is filled with water. The boat is on the hard.
> I have the water intake hose disconnected from the thru hull and in a pail
> of water about six inches higher than the pump. Joe #908 On Apr 17, 2011,
> at 12:40 PM, Karl Krueger wrote: > Hello Joe: > > How old is the impeller?
> Did you examine it to determine if the > vanes were > damaged or cracking?
> If it's older and it sat all winter it's > possib
> le that > one of the vanes broke off when the engine started. > > Also,
> check the through hull value, make certain it is open and > water is >
> coming in. It maybe the opening in clogged. > > Best wishes. > > Karl
> Krueger (Kindred Spirit #282, MKE WI) > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM,
> Joseph Aberdale > <summerwind3 at comcast.net>wrote: > >> I started my Yanmar
> in my 2002 320 and it was working fine. After >> about 5 >> minutes, it
> stopped sucking cooling water. Prior to starting, I >> opened the >> water
> pump and the impeller looked fine. It now refuses to suck up >> water >>
> from the pail. Does anyone have any ideas? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Joe >>
> #908 >> > > > > --> Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI, CDPE > RE/MAX Realty
> 100 > Phone - 414-322-6541 > Fax - 414-327-6870
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:45:32 -0400
> From: Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
> Message-ID: <2305b1fb-2475-49b6-b89d-35fe74bbfa36 at email.android.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> 2 things to try. If any of the impeller fins are bent the wrong direction
> the pump won't prime well.
>
> In a pinch here's a trick to get it primed. Use some plumbers grease or
> lanocote to coat the impeller and inside of the housing. This seals gaps
> between the impeller and the inner/outer plate that can make it hard to
> prime.
>
> Worked for me in a pinch before I solved this by replacing my pump.
>
> -jeff hare
> #809
>
> Joseph Aberdale <summerwind3 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your responses. I inspected the impeller after I started it.
> There are no missing vanes or cracks. There are no air leaks in the line.
> I think water is getting to the pump because the large clear plastic
> filter in the line is filled with water. The boat is on the hard. I have
> the water intake hose disconnected from the thru hull and in a pail of
> water about six inches higher than the pump. Joe #908 On Apr 17, 2011, at
> 12:40 PM, Karl Krueger wrote: > Hello Joe: > > How old is the impeller?
> Did you examine it to determine if the > vanes were > damaged or cracking?
> If it's older and it sat all winter it's > possible that > one of the
> vanes broke off when the engine started. > > Also, check the through hull
> value, make certain it is open and > water is > coming in. It maybe the
> opening in clogged. > > Best wishes. > > Karl Krueger (Kindred Spirit
> #282, MKE WI) > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Joseph Aberdale >
> <summerwind3 at comcast.net>wrote: > >> I started my Yanma
> r in my 2002 320 and it was working fine. After >> about 5 >> minutes, it
> stopped sucking cooling water. Prior to starting, I >> opened the >> water
> pump and the impeller looked fine. It now refuses to suck up >> water >>
> from the pail. Does anyone have any ideas? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Joe >>
> #908 >> > > > > -- > Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI, CDPE > RE/MAX Realty
> 100 > Phone - 414-322-6541 > Fax - 414-327-6870
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 18:10:22 -0400
> From: Irving Grunes <igrunes at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Prices for used boats
> Message-ID: <BANLkTik8MASmPh8EJSDzSAbQ1yWLu9SCNA at mail.gmail.com>
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> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Greg Arnold <SoarXC at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/17/2011 2:04 PM, Dennyats at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking for a website that records the used boat selling prices.
>>> I
>>> know I saw it once but unable to find it. Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>> First item here:
>>
>> http://www.catalina320.com/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=21
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:12:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mike Ott <wmo48 at yahoo.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
> Message-ID: <308949.78183.qm at web80009.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Joe,
> Since your on the hard you could use a garden hose with an adjustable
> ball-value
> to regulate the flow and pressurize the system.? The Yanmar pump?can be
> weak and
> we tend to forget that when we're in the?water?we have close to 12 tons of
> displacement helpping to pushing?raw water into the engine. ?Use some
> plastic
> tubing?inserted into your throughull, attach a hose barb to the ball-value
> and
> connect to your garden hose.? I regulate the flow to that of a bubbler,
> the less
> pressure the better.? I use this method to check and run-out?the engine
> before
> we launch, when it finally warms up in New England.
> Mike
> "Amanda Lu"
> #508
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Joseph Aberdale <summerwind3 at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 12:54:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
>
> Thanks for your responses. I inspected the impeller after I started it.?
> There
> are no missing vanes or cracks. There are no air leaks in the line.? I
> think
> water is getting to the pump because the large clear plastic filter in the
> line
> is filled with water. The boat is on the hard. I have the water intake
> hose
> disconnected from the thru hull and in a pail of water about six inches
> higher
> than the pump.
>
> Joe
> #908
>
> On Apr 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Karl Krueger wrote:
>
>> Hello Joe:
>>
>> How old is the impeller?? Did you examine it to determine if the vanes
>> were
>> damaged or cracking?? If it's older and it sat all winter it's possible
>> that
>> one of the vanes broke off when the engine started.
>>
>> Also, check the through hull value, make certain it is open and water is
>> coming in.? It maybe the opening in clogged.
>>
>> Best wishes.
>>
>> Karl Krueger (Kindred Spirit #282, MKE WI)
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Joseph Aberdale
>><summerwind3 at comcast.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I started my Yanmar in my 2002 320 and it was working fine.? After about
>>> 5
>>> minutes, it stopped sucking cooling water.? Prior to starting, I opened
>>> the
>>> water pump and the impeller looked fine. It now refuses to suck up water
>>> from the pail.? Does anyone have any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> #908
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI, CDPE
>> RE/MAX Realty 100
>> Phone - 414-322-6541
>> Fax - 414-327-6870
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 10:33:39 -0400
> From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/)" <C320 at suddenlink.net>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Prices for used boats
> Message-ID: <op.vt41edc15hwcq0 at toshiba>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed;
> delsp=yes
>
> The brokers site is called www.soldboats.com.
> If you are friendly with a broker, he/she may be willing to do a datadump
> (ie. report) for you.
>
> Bucvalu has a neat tool to give you an estimate market value for a
> particular make/model/year but any history of actual sales will cost you
> money.
> http://www.bucvalu.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=boat_values
>
> Keep in mind, of course, that any recorded data is for brokerage-sold
> boats only, not private transactions.
>
> Historically, actual selling has been close to 90% of last asking. Of
> course, that can vary widely depending on many factors, including the
> economy.
> If you do get an updated relationship between asking and selling, I would
> like to know what it is.
>
> Karl
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:29:36 -0400, <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> BUC valu
>>
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Arnold <SoarXC at cox.net>
>> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.comDate: Sun, 17 Apr 2011
>> 14:16:10
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Reply-To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Prices for used boats
>>
>> On 4/17/2011 2:04 PM, Dennyats at aol.com wrote:
>>> I am looking for a website that records the used boat selling prices.
>>> I
>>> know I saw it once but unable to find it. Any ideas?
>>>
>>
>> First item here:
>>
>> http://www.catalina320.com/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=21
>>
>
>
> --
> Karl Mielenhausen
> Catalina 320 Hull 690
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:50:54 -0500
> From: "David J Cardoza" <dave at avaloncon.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
> Message-ID:
> <8B39D75043B6754B815AA7CDD99B3D3705E5FDEC at 34093-C12-EVS1.exchange.rackspace.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Be careful with using a hose I've been told by a Yanmar distributor based
> mechanic that you can force water back into the cylinder head if you're
> not careful. The relationship of the cylinder head to the water line
> keeps this in check. Don't know how real the risk but thought I'd pass it
> along.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ott
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:13 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
>
> Joe,
> Since your on the hard you could use a garden hose with an adjustable
> ball-value
> to regulate the flow and pressurize the system.? The Yanmar pump?can be
> weak and
> we tend to forget that when we're in the?water?we have close to 12 tons of
> displacement helpping to pushing?raw water into the engine. ?Use some
> plastic
> tubing?inserted into your throughull, attach a hose barb to the ball-value
> and
> connect to your garden hose.? I regulate the flow to that of a bubbler,
> the less
> pressure the better.? I use this method to check and run-out?the engine
> before
> we launch, when it finally warms up in New England.
> Mike
> "Amanda Lu"
> #508
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Joseph Aberdale <summerwind3 at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 12:54:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
>
> Thanks for your responses. I inspected the impeller after I started it.?
> There
> are no missing vanes or cracks. There are no air leaks in the line.? I
> think
> water is getting to the pump because the large clear plastic filter in the
> line
> is filled with water. The boat is on the hard. I have the water intake
> hose
> disconnected from the thru hull and in a pail of water about six inches
> higher
> than the pump.
>
> Joe
> #908
>
> On Apr 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Karl Krueger wrote:
>
>> Hello Joe:
>>
>> How old is the impeller?? Did you examine it to determine if the vanes
>> were
>> damaged or cracking?? If it's older and it sat all winter it's possible
>> that
>> one of the vanes broke off when the engine started.
>>
>> Also, check the through hull value, make certain it is open and water is
>> coming in.? It maybe the opening in clogged.
>>
>> Best wishes.
>>
>> Karl Krueger (Kindred Spirit #282, MKE WI)
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Joseph Aberdale
>><summerwind3 at comcast.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I started my Yanmar in my 2002 320 and it was working fine.? After about
>>> 5
>>> minutes, it stopped sucking cooling water.? Prior to starting, I opened
>>> the
>>> water pump and the impeller looked fine. It now refuses to suck up water
>>> from the pail.? Does anyone have any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> #908
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI, CDPE
>> RE/MAX Realty 100
>> Phone - 414-322-6541
>> Fax - 414-327-6870
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:45:33 -0400
> From: Fred LEcuyer <fred.lecuyer at live.com>
> To: Catalina320list Catalina320list <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
> Message-ID: <SNT113-W29F40797FA2AF5F9DD854FE9910 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> I've had similar issues when I was in the water but had disconnected the
> raw water intake line to clear the strainer. I thought I was in for a big
> delay and hunt for the source of the air pocket even though I had refilled
> the raw water line to the pump.
>
> With some trepidation, I increased the engine revs and after several
> seconds, the water came through just fine. Don't know if this will help
> your current circumstance, but it's maybe something to try after trying
> all the other solutions.
>
> Fred
>
> First light
> Hull 926
>
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:50:54 -0500
>> From: dave at avaloncon.com
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
>>
>> Be careful with using a hose I've been told by a Yanmar distributor based
>> mechanic that you can force water back into the cylinder head if you're
>> not careful. The relationship of the cylinder head to the water line
>> keeps this in check. Don't know how real the risk but thought I'd pass
>> it along.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ott
>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:13 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
>>
>> Joe,
>> Since your on the hard you could use a garden hose with an adjustable
>> ball-value
>> to regulate the flow and pressurize the system. The Yanmar pump can be
>> weak and
>> we tend to forget that when we're in the water we have close to 12 tons
>> of
>> displacement helpping to pushing raw water into the engine. Use some
>> plastic
>> tubing inserted into your throughull, attach a hose barb to the
>> ball-value and
>> connect to your garden hose. I regulate the flow to that of a bubbler,
>> the less
>> pressure the better. I use this method to check and run-out the engine
>> before
>> we launch, when it finally warms up in New England.
>> Mike
>> "Amanda Lu"
>> #508
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Joseph Aberdale <summerwind3 at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 12:54:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
>>
>> Thanks for your responses. I inspected the impeller after I started it.
>> There
>> are no missing vanes or cracks. There are no air leaks in the line. I
>> think
>> water is getting to the pump because the large clear plastic filter in
>> the line
>> is filled with water. The boat is on the hard. I have the water intake
>> hose
>> disconnected from the thru hull and in a pail of water about six inches
>> higher
>> than the pump.
>>
>> Joe
>> #908
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Karl Krueger wrote:
>>
>> > Hello Joe:
>> >
>> > How old is the impeller? Did you examine it to determine if the vanes
>> > were
>> > damaged or cracking? If it's older and it sat all winter it's possible
>> > that
>> > one of the vanes broke off when the engine started.
>> >
>> > Also, check the through hull value, make certain it is open and water
>> > is
>> > coming in. It maybe the opening in clogged.
>> >
>> > Best wishes.
>> >
>> > Karl Krueger (Kindred Spirit #282, MKE WI)
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Joseph Aberdale
>> ><summerwind3 at comcast.net>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I started my Yanmar in my 2002 320 and it was working fine. After
>> >> about 5
>> >> minutes, it stopped sucking cooling water. Prior to starting, I
>> >> opened the
>> >> water pump and the impeller looked fine. It now refuses to suck up
>> >> water
>> >> from the pail. Does anyone have any ideas?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> Joe
>> >> #908
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI, CDPE
>> > RE/MAX Realty 100
>> > Phone - 414-322-6541
>> > Fax - 414-327-6870
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:28:31 -0400
> From: Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
> Message-ID: <c3ba337d-dc8f-4e20-a503-57b57a3a462d at email.android.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Yes, this is really important advise. The muffler can easily/quickly fill
> and flow back over the elbow and do big damage to the pistons.
> Here are the details of my flush system.
>
> Check out this pic of my winterizing/engine flush port:
> http://bit.ly/fhC3kY
>
> The fitting is from a Prestone radiator flush kit for $5:
> http://bit.ly/gkzW54
>
> The jug I use is a West Marine "engine winterizing kit" with a hole cut in
> the top for a garden hose to fill the jug while the engine is running.
> See: http://bit.ly/h1jPpw (I borrowed Al Ahlmans so often he went and
> bought his own :)
>
> One added bonus is the ability to bleed air out of the raw water line if
> for some reason it won't prime after emptying the strainer.
>
> Been using this system setup since 2001.
>
> -jeff
>
> David J Cardoza <dave at avaloncon.com> wrote:
>
> Be careful with using a hose I've been told by a Yanmar distributor based
> mechanic that you can force water back into the cylinder head if you're
> not careful. The relationship of the cylinder head to the water line keeps
> this in check. Don't know how real the risk but thought I'd pass it
> along. -----Original Message----- From:
> c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ott
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:13 AM To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem Joe, Since your on the hard you
> could use a garden hose with an adjustable ball-value to regulate the flow
> and pressurize the system. The Yanmar pump can be weak and we tend to
> forget that when we're in the water we have close to 12 tons of
> displacement helpping to pushing raw water into the engine. Use some
> plastic tubing inserted into your throughull, attach a hose barb to the
> ball-value and connect to your garden hose. I regulate th
> e flow to that of a bubbler, the less pressure the better. I use this
> method to check and run-out the engine before we launch, when it finally
> warms up in New England. Mike "Amanda Lu"
> #508_____________________________________________
> From: Joseph Aberdale <summerwind3 at comcast.net> To:
> C320-List at Catalina320.com Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 12:54:22 PM Subject:
> Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem Thanks for your responses. I inspected the
> impeller after I started it. There are no missing vanes or cracks. There
> are no air leaks in the line. I think water is getting to the pump
> because the large clear plastic filter in the line is filled with water.
> The boat is on the hard. I have the water intake hose disconnected from
> the thru hull and in a pail of water about six inches higher than the
> pump. Joe #908 On Apr 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Karl Krueger wrote: > Hello
> Joe: > > How old is the impeller? Did you examine it to determine if the
> vanes were > damaged or cracking? If it's older and it sat all winter
> it's possible that > one of the vanes broke off when the engine started. >
> > Also, check the through hull value, make certain it is open and water is
> > coming in. It maybe the opening in clogged. > > Best wishes. >
> > Karl Krueger (Kindred Spirit #282, MKE WI) > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at
> > 8:50 AM, Joseph Aberdale ><summerwind3 at comcast.net>wrote: > >> I started
> > my Yanmar in my 2002 320 and it was working fine. After about 5 >>
> > minutes, it stopped sucking cooling water. Prior to starting, I opened
> > the >> water pump and the impeller looked fine. It now refuses to suck
> > up water >> from the pail. Does anyone have any ideas? >> >> Thank you.
> > >> >> Joe >> #908 >> > > > > --Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI, CDPE >
> > RE/MAX Realty 100 > Phone - 414-322-6541 > Fax - 414-327-6870
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:05:35 -0400
> From: "Brad Kuether" <bkuether at comcast.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
> Message-ID: <D7E9706713FF4B379CDFE1CB3E95CC65 at BradPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> It may seem odd that a pump could go "wrong". Its just a spinning rubber
> impeller in an otherwise metal housing.
>
> BUT, I have experienced this before personally on a Yanmar 2GM, and yes a
> new pump does solve this issue.
>
> Heck even in the water with the pressure and all, I couldn't get raw water
> to move through the system.
>
> a.. Try the new impeller, assure it is correctly installed.
> b.. Get a new water pump. That is an item you do NOT need to "go up",
> far from home. (or anywhere for that matter!)
> -Brad, Mary, Monica, and Jarod
> "Independence"
> 2004 Catalina 320 Hull 1006
> Middle River, MD far from home.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Yanmar Problem
>
>
> 2 things to try. If any of the impeller fins are bent the wrong direction
> the pump won't prime well.
>
> In a pinch here's a trick to get it primed. Use some plumbers grease or
> lanocote to coat the impeller and inside of the housing. This seals gaps
> between the impeller and the inner/outer plate that can make it hard to
> prime.
>
> Worked for me in a pinch before I solved this by replacing my pump.
>
> -jeff hare
> #809
>
> Joseph Aberdale <summerwind3 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your responses. I inspected the impeller after I started it.
> There are no missing vanes or cracks. There are no air leaks in the line.
> I think water is getting to the pump because the large clear plastic
> filter in the line is filled with water. The boat is on the hard. I have
> the water intake hose disconnected from the thru hull and in a pail of
> water about six inches higher than the pump. Joe #908 On Apr 17, 2011, at
> 12:40 PM, Karl Krueger wrote: > Hello Joe: > > How old is the impeller?
> Did you examine it to determine if the > vanes were > damaged or cracking?
> If it's older and it sat all winter it's > possible that > one of the
> vanes broke off when the engine started. > > Also, check the through hull
> value, make certain it is open and > water is > coming in. It maybe the
> opening in clogged. > > Best wishes. > > Karl Krueger (Kindred Spirit
> #282, MKE WI) > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Joseph Aberdale >
> <summerwind3 at comcast.net>wrote: > >> I started my Yanma
> r in my 2002 320 and it was working fine. After >> about 5 >> minutes, it
> stopped sucking cooling water. Prior to starting, I >> opened the >> water
> pump and the impeller looked fine. It now refuses to suck up >> water >>
> from the pail. Does anyone have any ideas? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Joe >>
> #908 >> > > > > -- > Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI, CDPE > RE/MAX Realty
> 100 > Phone - 414-322-6541 > Fax - 414-327-6870
>
>
>
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