[C320-list] Raw water pump costs
DOCKLIZARD at aol.com
DOCKLIZARD at aol.com
Tue Jul 12 06:06:20 PDT 2011
Hi,
Did not really do a lot of shopping around, but the total cost for my
replacement pump was $409.00 plus shipping. This included pump, O'Ring and
already installed impeller.
I did order it from TAD in Va. Phone (804)642-9296.
Part number 29450-1701...(Jabsco 100 series pumps)
I am not really handy, but only took me 30 minutes to replace and
install1!!!!
Alan Shaw
Windstar # 18
Port Charlottte, FL
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1. Re: Rariton PHHBII vs PHIS - will it fit? (Pat Ireland)
2. Re: Waste tank dectector locations (Warren Updike)
3. Re: Perkins Raw Water Pump (Warren Updike)
4. Perkins Raw Water Pump (Alan Goodman)
5. Re: Problems ordering Catalina parts? (Warren Updike)
6. ST 4000 new question (jpmesa at aol.com)
7. Re: Waste tank dectector locations (Donald Lawson)
8. Re: Problems ordering Catalina parts? (Donald Lawson)
9. Re: ST 4000 new question (Donald Lawson)
10. Re: Perkins Raw Water Pump (Welch, Myron D)
11. East Coast Rendevous (Joseph Aberdale)
12. Re: ST 4000 new question (Jeff Hare)
13. Re: ST 4000 new question (Donald Lawson)
14. Re: Perkins Raw Water Pump (Irving Grunes)
15. Re: ST 4000 new question (Jane & Ken)
16. Re: Perkins Raw Water Pump (Welch, Myron D)
17. Re: Perkins Raw Water Pump (Bruce)
18. Re: Problems ordering Catalina parts? (Walter Schaffer)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:15:03 -0700
From: Pat Ireland <cherie320 at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rariton PHHBII vs PHIS - will it fit?
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All
Raritan Sea-Era electric toilet is installed and working well. Location
required rotation of the macerator and pump assembly from the back to the
left. The mounting used the left rear hole from the original head base,
with the other 3 holes rotated counterclockwise to keep the front center
bolt on the raised platform.
Thanks all for the information. This forum is the greatest.
Pat, 801
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:18:34 -0400
From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste tank dectector locations
Message-ID: <BAY156-ds3E154CEFE6E712F0EC40DBE450 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Don, I presume you have the 22 gal. holding tank. And, which monitor are
you using? I used the Solo monitor with the dual sensor strips.
I would place the sensor strips where you can reach them while the tank is
installed. We put ours on the forward side where the tank is the tallest
top to bottom. This is close to the battery compartment from where I
powered the monitor. I used an in-line fuse as I never want the monitor
unpowered as you then have to reprogram it. I placed a terminal strip on
the top of the tank for the connections from the battery, sensors, and to
the controller. The controller/display I placed inside the cabinet in the
head. I did this so it would be out of the way of small curious hands that
are occasionally onboard.
As for programming the controller for the tank shape, good luck. I
couldn't
seem to find the best setting for this tank. I think it is now set for a
square tank. This means that it reaches 1/2 full rather quickly, then
takes
longer to reach 3/4 and full because the greater part of the volume is at
the upper half. This is not all bad. The Solo monitor turns on a red
"Full" light when the tank is at 80% for 30 minutes. This is a good
indicator that it is time to think about a pump out.
Let us know how your installation turns out.
Warren & Pattie Updike
1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Lawson [mailto:dnclaws at aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:48 PM
To: c320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Waste tank dectector locations
I am about ready to install external waste tank level sensors. Can I attach
them equidistant on the inboard side? or am I going to have to do some
volume measurements?
Don #1005
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:48:27 -0400
From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
Message-ID: <BAY156-ds4900E65FA6B3F6F1853AFBE450 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Myron, I'm interested in your project as my Perkins is approaching 2,000
hrs
and I will probably need a rebuild of the pump before long.
I've not done this so my advice is anecdotal. It is a Jabsco pump and
parts
are readily available. I've thought I would have mine rebuilt as I've no
idea what's involved in the rebuild: do I have the necessary tools. I've
used a web site www.depcopump.com that has lots of good info about such
pumps. I've thought I would get a rebuild estimate from them. You can
also
get the necessary parts from them.
Removing the pump is probably doable considering that since you're asking
the question you're probably considering doing it yourself. However, refer
to Section X, of the Detroit Diesel manual for instructions on this pump.
It says, "Attention": Do not remove the drive housing of the raw water
pump.
The alignment of this housing has been carefully adjusted with a special
alignment tool." Then it refers to 4 "set screws" that fasten the pump to
the drive housing that you may remove.
As for the serial number, as I remember, it is stamped on a plate attached
to the engine on the stbd side forward somewhere above the high-pressure
fuel pump. I think it records a model and serial number. Mine is: model
KD3024J; Serial: 51554X. If you have trouble locating it, let me know and
I'll verify where mine is located.
Hope this helps.
Warren & Pattie Updike
1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
-----Original Message-----
From: Welch, Myron D [mailto:myron-welch at uiowa.edu]
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:57 PM
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
The raw water pump shaft seal on my 1995 Perkins is dripping. The engine
has
just under 1,000 hours of use.
Is it best to put in a new seal or should I just replace the complete pump?
If replacing the pump, where is a good place to purchase without breaking
the bank?
Is this an easy job to remove and replace or should the boatyard mechanic
do
it?
One company asked me for the serial number of the engine. Where do I find
the SN?
Thanks for your help.
Myron Welch
Wind Instrument, #238
Iowa City, Iowa
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:59:26 -0400
From: Alan Goodman <goodmanalanlee at hotmail.com>
To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
Message-ID: <SNT112-W41A8884763DE27BF6F3CBFC0450 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Myron - remove the companionway engine cover and look towards the front on
the top left of the engine. there is a shiny metal plate affixed to the
engine with the S/N info. Alan
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:57:13 +0000
> From: "Welch, Myron D" <myron-welch at uiowa.edu>
> To: "<C320-List at Catalina320.com>" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
> Message-ID: <D61BC18F-B6F5-426F-A1CA-E2084B2BDC05 at uiowa.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> The raw water pump shaft seal on my 1995 Perkins is dripping. The engine
has just under 1,000 hours of use.
>
> Is it best to put in a new seal or should I just replace the complete
pump?
>
> If replacing the pump, where is a good place to purchase without
breaking the bank?
>
> Is this an easy job to remove and replace or should the boatyard
mechanic do it?
>
> One company asked me for the serial number of the engine. Where do I
find the SN?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Myron Welch
> Wind Instrument, #238
> Iowa City, Iowa
>
> ------------------------------
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:06:15 -0400
From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Problems ordering Catalina parts?
Message-ID: <BAY156-ds4CCB8576495397C9C6E2CBE450 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I believe Kent and Dani are in CA. In Florida, Warren Pandy is the GM and
Ellie Quinn is parts manager. I've had good and bad experience with CA
parts, and nothing but good with Florida. The latest issue with CA was
resolved quickly after I said I would write a letter to Frank Butler. Make
sure you know whether you are dealing with CA or FL, then contact them
directly and be persistent:
818-884-7700 CA
727-544-6681 FL
BTW, Walt, where are you on Middle River? We and another 320 are at
Maryland Marina.
Warren & Pattie Updike
1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Schaffer [mailto:bohpilot at yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:58 AM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Problems ordering Catalina parts?
Has anyone encountered problems lately in ordering parts from Catalina
in?Florida? I've tried for a month now to order 2 simple parts for my boat.
I've emailed the parts man (Ken at Catalinayachts.com) 3 times with my request
(including part numbers), and I've called 4 times and got an acknowledgment
my emails arrived. But, I can't get a someone to reply and ?process the
order. Any suggestions on speeding up the parts ordering process at
Catalina?
tks
Walt Schaffer
#515?Middle River, MD
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:49:15 -0400
From: jpmesa at aol.com
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] ST 4000 new question
Message-ID: <8CE0E33E4E1EEE7-1710-2B6C5 at webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I was talking with several long time sailor friends thisweekend and more
than one have had problems with their new cell phones and theST4000. (making
their boats go off course) Even turning them off or placingthem as far
away as possible from the compass didn?t help, they had to keep thephone?s off
the boat. Has anyone else had this problem? I have done everything test
listed on 320 and sailboat owners and Raymarine board (plus grounds wires)
and double check all mysettings. The only test I haven?t done is the
Raymarine compass test! I?ll do that this weekend after I check my cellphone. It
funny that my autopilot problems started the same time I purchased anew
phone. Looks like I might need arudder transducer but I want to have the
basic autopilot working before I hunt onedown. Thanks, John Holokai 2
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:24:30 -0700
From: Donald Lawson <dnclaws at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste tank dectector locations
Message-ID: <C507B742-8A4F-417C-8A96-262712B04DC4 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Warren
Thanks for the info. I will be using a Sensa Tank Marine 100 with the 22
gal tank. It does not have to be programmed. I will measure the tank this
weekend and determine if I should calculate the various volume positions. i
suspect not but I will go through the exercise anyway for anybody who wants
the info in the future. Having had the tank full when I thought it was only
1/4 full brought this project to the top of my list of things to do.
Don #1005 "Mandolin Wind"
On Jul 11, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Warren Updike wrote:
> Don, I presume you have the 22 gal. holding tank. And, which monitor are
> you using? I used the Solo monitor with the dual sensor strips.
>
> I would place the sensor strips where you can reach them while the tank
is
> installed. We put ours on the forward side where the tank is the tallest
> top to bottom. This is close to the battery compartment from where I
> powered the monitor. I used an in-line fuse as I never want the monitor
> unpowered as you then have to reprogram it. I placed a terminal strip on
> the top of the tank for the connections from the battery, sensors, and to
> the controller. The controller/display I placed inside the cabinet in
the
> head. I did this so it would be out of the way of small curious hands
that
> are occasionally onboard.
>
> As for programming the controller for the tank shape, good luck. I
couldn't
> seem to find the best setting for this tank. I think it is now set for a
> square tank. This means that it reaches 1/2 full rather quickly, then
takes
> longer to reach 3/4 and full because the greater part of the volume is at
> the upper half. This is not all bad. The Solo monitor turns on a red
> "Full" light when the tank is at 80% for 30 minutes. This is a good
> indicator that it is time to think about a pump out.
>
> Let us know how your installation turns out.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Lawson [mailto:dnclaws at aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:48 PM
> To: c320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Waste tank dectector locations
>
> I am about ready to install external waste tank level sensors. Can I
attach
> them equidistant on the inboard side? or am I going to have to do some
> volume measurements?
> Don #1005
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:30:26 -0700
From: Donald Lawson <dnclaws at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Problems ordering Catalina parts?
Message-ID: <FCAF1A3E-71AD-41F0-9885-8902CBB9AFFF at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I have received excellent service from Dani in CA, whereas little to none
from the local Catalina Brokerage. I did not buy my boat from them so they
don't seem to want to take care of me. Whatever.
Don #1005 "Mandolin Wind"
On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Warren Updike wrote:
> I believe Kent and Dani are in CA. In Florida, Warren Pandy is the GM and
> Ellie Quinn is parts manager. I've had good and bad experience with CA
> parts, and nothing but good with Florida. The latest issue with CA was
> resolved quickly after I said I would write a letter to Frank Butler.
Make
> sure you know whether you are dealing with CA or FL, then contact them
> directly and be persistent:
> 818-884-7700 CA
> 727-544-6681 FL
>
> BTW, Walt, where are you on Middle River? We and another 320 are at
> Maryland Marina.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walter Schaffer [mailto:bohpilot at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:58 AM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Problems ordering Catalina parts?
>
> Has anyone encountered problems lately in ordering parts from Catalina
> in Florida? I've tried for a month now to order 2 simple parts for my
boat.
> I've emailed the parts man (Ken at Catalinayachts.com) 3 times with my
request
> (including part numbers), and I've called 4 times and got an
acknowledgment
> my emails arrived. But, I can't get a someone to reply and process the
> order. Any suggestions on speeding up the parts ordering process at
> Catalina?
> tks
> Walt Schaffer
> #515 Middle River, MD
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:37:23 -0700
From: Donald Lawson <dnclaws at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 new question
Message-ID: <83039ED0-B47F-40F5-BD2C-A099BEEAD053 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
John
Funny this has come up. My ST4000 just went 200 deg off a couple of weeks
ago. No big deal but it shows me going backwards on the chartplotter. Pilot
works where I point it OK. Haven't reswung the compass yet but I am going
to watch this closely. Wife has a new IPhone. Only a couple of ST4000s
around me but I will ask.
Don #1005
On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:49 PM, jpmesa at aol.com wrote:
>
>
> I was talking with several long time sailor friends thisweekend and more
than one have had problems with their new cell phones and theST4000.
(making their boats go off course) Even turning them off or placingthem as far
away as possible from the compass didn?t help, they had to keep thephone?s
off the boat. Has anyone else had this problem? I have done everything test
listed on 320 and sailboat owners and Raymarine board (plus grounds wires)
and double check all mysettings. The only test I haven?t done is the
Raymarine compass test! I?ll do that this weekend after I check my cellphone.
It funny that my autopilot problems started the same time I purchased anew
phone. Looks like I might need arudder transducer but I want to have the
basic autopilot working before I hunt onedown. Thanks, John Holokai 2
>
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:39:30 +0000
From: "Welch, Myron D" <myron-welch at uiowa.edu>
To: "<C320-List at Catalina320.com>" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
Message-ID: <C8A202AB-70E4-4EB7-B2E2-707343FE98D3 at uiowa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Warren,
Thanks for the information. I did find the serial number this morning
right where you mentioned.
I do most of my maintenance, but was not sure about removing and
installing that gear driven pump. After reading your Detroit Diesel warning, I think
I will have the job done. I really like our Perkins engine and don't want
to mess it up.
I had quote today from Diesel Specialists of $598 for a new pump. I hope I
can find a better price and as someone mentioned earlier, I will check
eBay.
I let you know what I finally decide.
Myron Welch
Wind Instrument #238
Iowa City, Iowa
Sent from my iPod Touch
On Jul 11, 2011, at 4:49 PM, "Warren Updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Myron, I'm interested in your project as my Perkins is approaching 2,000
hrs
> and I will probably need a rebuild of the pump before long.
>
> I've not done this so my advice is anecdotal. It is a Jabsco pump and
parts
> are readily available. I've thought I would have mine rebuilt as I've no
> idea what's involved in the rebuild: do I have the necessary tools. I've
> used a web site www.depcopump.com that has lots of good info about such
> pumps. I've thought I would get a rebuild estimate from them. You can
also
> get the necessary parts from them.
>
> Removing the pump is probably doable considering that since you're asking
> the question you're probably considering doing it yourself. However,
refer
> to Section X, of the Detroit Diesel manual for instructions on this pump.
> It says, "Attention": Do not remove the drive housing of the raw water
pump.
> The alignment of this housing has been carefully adjusted with a special
> alignment tool." Then it refers to 4 "set screws" that fasten the pump
to
> the drive housing that you may remove.
>
> As for the serial number, as I remember, it is stamped on a plate
attached
> to the engine on the stbd side forward somewhere above the high-pressure
> fuel pump. I think it records a model and serial number. Mine is: model
> KD3024J; Serial: 51554X. If you have trouble locating it, let me know
and
> I'll verify where mine is located.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Welch, Myron D [mailto:myron-welch at uiowa.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:57 PM
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
>
> The raw water pump shaft seal on my 1995 Perkins is dripping. The engine
has
> just under 1,000 hours of use.
>
> Is it best to put in a new seal or should I just replace the complete
pump?
>
> If replacing the pump, where is a good place to purchase without breaking
> the bank?
>
> Is this an easy job to remove and replace or should the boatyard
mechanic do
> it?
>
> One company asked me for the serial number of the engine. Where do I find
> the SN?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Myron Welch
> Wind Instrument, #238
> Iowa City, Iowa
>
------------------------------
Message: 11
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:47:18 -0400
From: Joseph Aberdale <summerwind3 at comcast.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] East Coast Rendevous
Message-ID: <9F90A6CA-A608-450D-ABBF-EECAAD1137DF at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
I am attending the Catalina East Coast Rendezvous and am wondering if
anyone is interested in sharing a room at the Seaport Inn for the
weekend. If so, please respond to this email and I will provide my
telephone number to you.
Thank you.
Joe Aberdale
#908
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:07:23 -0400
From: Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 new question
Message-ID: <fb0c85f2-d149-4cd1-ada6-53677d26ac80 at email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
There is a tech note on the RayMarine website about how to correct the
orientation of the boat icon. Mine was pointing sideways at one point. Thought
I was in a Hunter for a minute. They sail sideways as well as they go
forwards, don't they?
;) jeff
Donald Lawson <dnclaws at aol.com> wrote:
John
Funny this has come up. My ST4000 just went 200 deg off a couple of weeks
ago. No big deal but it shows me going backwards on the chartplotter. Pilot
works where I point it OK. Haven't reswung the compass yet but I am going
to watch this closely. Wife has a new IPhone. Only a couple of ST4000s
around me but I will ask.
Don #1005
On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:49 PM, jpmesa at aol.com wrote:
>
>
> I was talking with several long time sailor friends thisweekend and more
than one have had problems with their new cell phones and theST4000.
(making their boats go off course) Even turning them off or placingthem as far
away as possible from the compass didn?t help, they had to keep thephone?s
off the boat. Has anyone else had this problem? I have done everything test
listed on 320 and sailboat owners and Raymarine board (plus grounds wires)
and double check all mysettings. The only test I haven?t done is the
Raymarine compass test! I?ll do that this weekend after I check my cellphone. It
funny that my autopilot problems started the same time I purchased anew
phone. Looks like I might need arudder transducer but I want to have the basic
autopilot working before I hunt onedown. Thanks, John Holokai 2
>
------------------------------
Message: 13
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:19:53 -0700
From: Donald Lawson <dnclaws at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 new question
Message-ID: <06895FC2-0BA7-4F97-8EA0-31118601E243 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Jeff
Will check out Raymarine website, thanks. Not sure about Hunters but I
know for sure that Buccaneers sail sideways faster than forwards.
Don
On Jul 11, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Jeff Hare wrote:
> There is a tech note on the RayMarine website about how to correct the
orientation of the boat icon. Mine was pointing sideways at one point.
Thought I was in a Hunter for a minute. They sail sideways as well as they go
forwards, don't they?
>
> ;) jeff
>
> Donald Lawson <dnclaws at aol.com> wrote:
>
> John
> Funny this has come up. My ST4000 just went 200 deg off a couple of
weeks ago. No big deal but it shows me going backwards on the chartplotter.
Pilot works where I point it OK. Haven't reswung the compass yet but I am
going to watch this closely. Wife has a new IPhone. Only a couple of ST4000s
around me but I will ask.
> Don #1005
> On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:49 PM, jpmesa at aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I was talking with several long time sailor friends thisweekend and
more than one have had problems with their new cell phones and theST4000.
(making their boats go off course) Even turning them off or placingthem as far
away as possible from the compass didn?t help, they had to keep thephone?s
off the boat. Has anyone else had this problem? I have done everything test
listed on 320 and sailboat owners and Raymarine board (plus grounds wires)
and double check all mysettings. The only test I haven?t done is the
Raymarine compass test! I?ll do that this weekend after I check my cellphone. It
funny that my autopilot problems started the same time I purchased anew
phone. Looks like I might need arudder transducer but I want to have the basic
autopilot working before I hunt onedown. Thanks, John Holokai 2
>>
>
------------------------------
Message: 14
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:02:24 -0400
From: Irving Grunes <igrunes at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
Message-ID:
<CAE+H+CLEGiCteXHSC84_ObVz=a5Juup1RsGMg=WcUoi1DK01tQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
All,
Again before trying a rebuild, check ebay for a replacement pump.
On our Yanmar 3GM it was so cheap, it didn't pay to consider a rebuild.
Replace and throw the old one away.
Irv 2001 #851
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Myron, I'm interested in your project as my Perkins is approaching 2,000
> hrs
> and I will probably need a rebuild of the pump before long.
>
> I've not done this so my advice is anecdotal. It is a Jabsco pump and
> parts
> are readily available. I've thought I would have mine rebuilt as I've no
> idea what's involved in the rebuild: do I have the necessary tools. I've
> used a web site www.depcopump.com that has lots of good info about such
> pumps. I've thought I would get a rebuild estimate from them. You can
> also
> get the necessary parts from them.
>
> Removing the pump is probably doable considering that since you're asking
> the question you're probably considering doing it yourself. However,
refer
> to Section X, of the Detroit Diesel manual for instructions on this pump.
> It says, "Attention": Do not remove the drive housing of the raw water
> pump.
> The alignment of this housing has been carefully adjusted with a special
> alignment tool." Then it refers to 4 "set screws" that fasten the pump
to
> the drive housing that you may remove.
>
> As for the serial number, as I remember, it is stamped on a plate
attached
> to the engine on the stbd side forward somewhere above the high-pressure
> fuel pump. I think it records a model and serial number. Mine is: model
> KD3024J; Serial: 51554X. If you have trouble locating it, let me know
and
> I'll verify where mine is located.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Welch, Myron D [mailto:myron-welch at uiowa.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:57 PM
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
>
> The raw water pump shaft seal on my 1995 Perkins is dripping. The engine
> has
> just under 1,000 hours of use.
>
> Is it best to put in a new seal or should I just replace the complete
pump?
>
> If replacing the pump, where is a good place to purchase without breaking
> the bank?
>
> Is this an easy job to remove and replace or should the boatyard mechanic
> do
> it?
>
> One company asked me for the serial number of the engine. Where do I find
> the SN?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Myron Welch
> Wind Instrument, #238
> Iowa City, Iowa
>
>
------------------------------
Message: 15
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:37:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jane & Ken <obuoy4848 at sbcglobal.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 new question
Message-ID:
<1310434635.99140.YahooMailClassic at web82602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
All "new"cell phones are on even when OFF. It is the way to know where you
are and if you are close to a retail location that you may want to spend
money--Yea big brother.
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Donald Lawson <dnclaws at aol.com> wrote:
From: Donald Lawson <dnclaws at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 new question
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 7:19 PM
Jeff
Will check out Raymarine website, thanks. Not sure about Hunters but I
know for sure that Buccaneers sail sideways faster than forwards.
Don
On Jul 11, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Jeff Hare wrote:
> There is a tech note on the RayMarine website about how to correct the
orientation of the boat icon. Mine was pointing sideways at one point.
Thought I was in a Hunter for a minute. They sail sideways as well as they go
forwards, don't they?
>
> ;) jeff
>
> Donald Lawson <dnclaws at aol.com> wrote:
>
> John
> Funny this has come up. My ST4000 just went 200 deg off a couple of
weeks ago. No big deal but it shows me going backwards on the chartplotter.
Pilot works where I point it OK. Haven't reswung the compass yet but I am
going to watch this closely. Wife has a new IPhone. Only a couple of ST4000s
around me but I will ask.
> Don #1005
> On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:49 PM, jpmesa at aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I was talking with several long time sailor friends thisweekend and
more than one have had problems with their new cell phones and theST4000.
(making their boats go off course) Even turning them off or placingthem as far
away as possible from the compass didn?t help, they had to keep thephone?s
off the boat. Has anyone else had this problem? I have done everything test
listed on 320 and sailboat owners and Raymarine board (plus grounds wires)
and double check all mysettings. The only test I haven?t done is the
Raymarine compass test! I?ll do that this weekend after I check my cellphone. It
funny that my autopilot problems started the same time I purchased anew
phone. Looks like I might need arudder transducer but I want to have the
basic autopilot working before I hunt onedown. Thanks, John Holokai 2
>>
>
------------------------------
Message: 16
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:40:46 +0000
From: "Welch, Myron D" <myron-welch at uiowa.edu>
To: "<C320-List at catalina320.com>" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
Message-ID: <201AB4DB-A7D3-47F9-B62D-38DE9874A31A at uiowa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Irv,
My boatyard is also recommending replacement. If they change the seals,
they often find a scored shaft. Then you are in for another expensive part, a
delay while they order and receive the part, and a very big labor bill.
You could easily end up with a rebuilt pump costing nearly the same as new.
To just pull the pump and replace with a new one is a minimal labor charge.
Now I'm on the quest to find a reasonably priced new pump.
Myron Welch
Wind Instrument #238
Iowa City, Iowa
Sent from my iPod Touch
On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:04 PM, "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
> Again before trying a rebuild, check ebay for a replacement pump.
> On our Yanmar 3GM it was so cheap, it didn't pay to consider a rebuild.
> Replace and throw the old one away.
> Irv 2001 #851
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Myron, I'm interested in your project as my Perkins is approaching 2,000
>> hrs
>> and I will probably need a rebuild of the pump before long.
>>
>> I've not done this so my advice is anecdotal. It is a Jabsco pump and
>> parts
>> are readily available. I've thought I would have mine rebuilt as I've
no
>> idea what's involved in the rebuild: do I have the necessary tools.
I've
>> used a web site www.depcopump.com that has lots of good info about such
>> pumps. I've thought I would get a rebuild estimate from them. You can
>> also
>> get the necessary parts from them.
>>
>> Removing the pump is probably doable considering that since you're
asking
>> the question you're probably considering doing it yourself. However,
refer
>> to Section X, of the Detroit Diesel manual for instructions on this
pump.
>> It says, "Attention": Do not remove the drive housing of the raw water
>> pump.
>> The alignment of this housing has been carefully adjusted with a special
>> alignment tool." Then it refers to 4 "set screws" that fasten the pump
to
>> the drive housing that you may remove.
>>
>> As for the serial number, as I remember, it is stamped on a plate
attached
>> to the engine on the stbd side forward somewhere above the high-pressure
>> fuel pump. I think it records a model and serial number. Mine is:
model
>> KD3024J; Serial: 51554X. If you have trouble locating it, let me know
and
>> I'll verify where mine is located.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Warren & Pattie Updike
>> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Welch, Myron D [mailto:myron-welch at uiowa.edu]
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:57 PM
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
>>
>> The raw water pump shaft seal on my 1995 Perkins is dripping. The engine
>> has
>> just under 1,000 hours of use.
>>
>> Is it best to put in a new seal or should I just replace the complete
pump?
>>
>> If replacing the pump, where is a good place to purchase without
breaking
>> the bank?
>>
>> Is this an easy job to remove and replace or should the boatyard
mechanic
>> do
>> it?
>>
>> One company asked me for the serial number of the engine. Where do I
find
>> the SN?
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Myron Welch
>> Wind Instrument, #238
>> Iowa City, Iowa
>>
>>
------------------------------
Message: 17
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:17:16 -0700
From: Bruce<bruceheyman at cox.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
Message-ID: <a6a67511-6c7f-4dc9-b8db-981b7421931f at blur>
Content-Type: text/plain; Format="Flowed"; DelSp="Yes";
charset="US-ASCII"
If you can I would do both. Order and install a new pump and then order
the
rebuild kit and do the work yourself. If you have a vise and a socket
set
it is not that hard to press out the shaft, berrings and seals. Then
clean
up the inside of the pump the best you can removing any scores, press in
the
new parts with your vice and sockets, oil it all up and put it in a zip
lock
bag as a spare.
Bruce
Somerset 671 Dana Point
Bruce Heyman
949-289-8400
-----Original message-----
From: "Welch, Myron D" <myron-welch at uiowa.edu>
To: "<C320-List at catalina320.com>" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 03:40:46 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
Irv,
My boatyard is also recommending replacement. If they change the seals,
they
often find a scored shaft. Then you are in for another expensive part, a
delay while they order and receive the part, and a very big labor bill.
You
could easily end up with a rebuilt pump costing nearly the same as new.
To
just pull the pump and replace with a new one is a minimal labor charge.
Now I'm on the quest to find a reasonably priced new pump.
Myron Welch
Wind Instrument #238
Iowa City, Iowa
Sent from my iPod Touch
On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:04 PM, "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
> Again before trying a rebuild, check ebay for a replacement pump.
> On our Yanmar 3GM it was so cheap, it didn't pay to consider a rebuild.
> Replace and throw the old one away.
> Irv 2001 #851
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Myron, I'm interested in your project as my Perkins is approaching 2,000
>> hrs
>> and I will probably need a rebuild of the pump before long.
>>
>> I've not done this so my advice is anecdotal. It is a Jabsco pump and
>> parts
>> are readily available. I've thought I would have mine rebuilt as I've
no
>> idea what's involved in the rebuild: do I have the necessary tools.
I've
>> used a web site www.depcopump.com that has lots of good info about such
>> pumps. I've thought I would get a rebuild estimate from them. You can
>> also
>> get the necessary parts from them.
>>
>> Removing the pump is probably doable considering that since you're
asking
>> the question you're probably considering doing it yourself. However,
refer
>> to Section X, of the Detroit Diesel manual for instructions on this
pump.
>> It says, "Attention": Do not remove the drive housing of the raw water
>> pump.
>> The alignment of this housing has been carefully adjusted with a special
>> alignment tool." Then it refers to 4 "set screws" that fasten the pump
to
>> the drive housing that you may remove.
>>
>> As for the serial number, as I remember, it is stamped on a plate
attached
>> to the engine on the stbd side forward somewhere above the high-pressure
>> fuel pump. I think it records a model and serial number. Mine is: model
>> KD3024J; Serial: 51554X. If you have trouble locating it, let me know
and
>> I'll verify where mine is located.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Warren & Pattie Updike
>> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Welch, Myron D [mailto:myron-welch at uiowa.edu]
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:57 PM
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: [C320-list] Perkins Raw Water Pump
>>
>> The raw water pump shaft seal on my 1995 Perkins is dripping. The engine
>> has
>> just under 1,000 hours of use.
>>
>> Is it best to put in a new seal or should I just replace the complete
pump?
>>
>> If replacing the pump, where is a good place to purchase without
breaking
>> the bank?
>>
>> Is this an easy job to remove and replace or should the boatyard
mechanic
>> do
>> it?
>>
>> One company asked me for the serial number of the engine. Where do I
find
>> the SN?
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Myron Welch
>> Wind Instrument, #238
>> Iowa City, Iowa
>>
>>
------------------------------
Message: 18
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:24:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Walter Schaffer <bohpilot at yahoo.com>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Problems ordering Catalina parts?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Thanks ?for all the input on ordering parts. I will use my best prose and
offer gifts..... Will let you all know how it works.
Found out the Ken is in Florida and Kent ?is in California.
Walt ?#515
________________________________
From: Barbara Uhlman <uhlman at sbcglobal.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Problems ordering Catalina parts?
I agree; I've found them very helpful and friendly.? Start with a phone
call and
let them know that you are following up with an email.? Use a good and
informative topic for the subject line.? I don't have notes in front of
me, but
I think his name (in FL) is Kent, not Ken.
Barb
________________________________
From: Rick Evans <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Sent: Mon, July 11, 2011 9:28:12 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Problems ordering Catalina parts?
Ive always ordered from Catalina Direct and found them helpful,
knowledgeable, and the parts came quickly.
Rick
724
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Walter Schaffer <bohpilot at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Has anyone encountered problems lately in ordering parts from Catalina
> in Florida? I've tried for a month now to order 2 simple parts for my
boat.
> I've emailed the parts man (Ken at Catalinayachts.com) 3 times with my
> request (including part numbers), and I've called 4 times and got an
> acknowledgment my emails arrived. But, I can't get a someone to reply and
>? process the order. Any suggestions on speeding up the parts ordering
> process at Catalina?
> tks
> Walt Schaffer
> #515 Middle River, MD
>
>
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