[C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002

[Jon Vez]

Thanks David--mine will be a Selden. You are absolutely correct about
learning the quirks of any boat-wise systems! Very much like the
Dutchman--many dislike it because if you don't get the procedure down it can
be very frustrating. I found it to be terrific, but I learned how to use it
correctly--so to with the furling main....

Regards,

Jon Vez

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We have a Selden In-Mast Furler on our 2007 C320 MK II and we love it.  As
with anything boating, just be careful how you use it and it will provide
yeas of trouble free service.  Ours has always worked great.  I will not go
back to flaked sails as we sail shorthanded quite a bit and the furling
system is very convenient, safer in higher winds, and reliable.  Ours also
has vertical battens.  Take the advice provided by Dick Walker and it works
very well.  I believe that C320's have both the Charleston and Selden
In-Mast Furling systems.

David Swanson
S/V Emily Ann
2007 C320 MK II, No. 1107
Mukilteo, WA 


On May 22, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Jon Vez wrote:

> This is of interest as I am about to own an in-mast furler. Just curious
if
> these are all Charlston spars or are some of these Seldens? I'm sure it
> doesn't really matter as conceptually the same issues would apply. I was
> very leery of owning a boat with an in-mast furler, but it would have been
> problematic ($$) to change it out. Do any of you have vertical battens?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jon Vez
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Dick Walker
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
> 
> We have had the Charleston.  Spar main  furler  For 11 years and find it
to
> be a great assist for the 2 of us sailing however there are some
procedures
> that must be followed  
> . 
> 1 if possible head into the wind
> 2. Do not have the main halyard too tight or too loose
> 3 make sure you have a tight wrap
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dick Walker
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA
> 619.435.8986
> 
> On May 22, 2011, at 12:08, Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> FIXED IT!!!  Thanks to all for the suggestions.  The wet weather today
may
> be the lubricant that was my saviour.  Lessons learned:  A:  The sail
wasn't
> hoisted enough in that the luff bead was loose.  B:  NEVER furl without
some
> tension (ensuring a 'tight' furl) applied.  C:  Boom should be raised off
> parallel slightly when furling (I knew this) to ensure proper furling, as
> the sail isn't a perfect triangle.  Whatever our next boat is, it'll have
a
> 'flaking' main.  I've no problem with 'externally' furling sails (like our
> jib), but when they furl into a mast or boom, problems can arise (operator
> or other cause) which can be difficult to correct.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2011, at 1:41 PM, wflowe3 at aim.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> This has probably happened to everyone who has in-mast furling. I have
> had luck pulling the sail out as far as possible without breaking
anything,
> then re-rolling it into the mast with tension on the outhaul then  rapidly
> pulling the outhaul. It may take many cycles but I have always had this
work
> and not damage anything. Just keep working it in and out.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Sat, May 21, 2011 6:19 pm
>>> Subject: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All:
>>> 
>>> We put our sails on today.  The wind kicked up as we were securing the
>>> main outhaul in preparation to furling the main, so we decided to furl
>>> it with my wife on the furling line and me just holding the clew and
>>> 'walking' it in, then attaching the outhaul later.  Unfortunately,
>>> this apparently furled it rather loosely, so that on trying to unfurl,
>>> some of the sailcloth folds on itself and binds in the gate in the
>>> mast to the furler, stopping things.  I don't think it's wrapped on
>>> itself beneath the outer folds.  Tried to winch it out, no good.
>>> Didn't want to force it, fearing breaking the car for the outhaul on
>>> the boom, or something worse.  Going to try tomorrow by attaching a
>>> line to the clew and then directly to one of the jib winches, along
>>> with liberal application of Sailkote along the gate.  If that fails,
>>> I'll have to invoke the yard rigger.  Anyone else ever suffer this
>>> folly or other such jamming?
>>> 
>>> Bob Seastream
>>> Intuition # 906
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

David Swanson
kswanson123 at comcast.net