[C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002

Tue May 24 06:26:57 PDT 2011

 In 9 years with in-mast furling, I have never had a problem furling the main which so many folks (who apparently don't have in-mast furling) seem to fret about.  I have had occasional trouble deploying the main as a result of not being vigilant furling it and getting some wrinkles in the sail that jammed it. I'm sure in-boom furling is great but I enjoy my loose footed main and just haven't experienced what some folks seem to fear.  Once in-boom becomes standard, I'd sure consider it but either way I wouldn't go back to slab reefing and sail flaking.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Jane & Ken <obuoy4848 at sbcglobal.net>
To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002

In boom is the only safe way to go----I do not understand the in mast 
furling--DUH

--- On Mon, 5/23/11, Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Date: Monday, May 23, 2011, 2:26 PM

Going forward (next boat), IF only roller furling main was available, I'd opt 
for in boom.  That way if it jams (and you're in a blow), you can still drop the 
main and secure it externally to the boom.  If in mast jams, the best you can do 
is shove the foot of the sail towards the mast and secure it as best you can.  
Previously I said I'd like to have an 'old school' flaking main.  However, if I 
want to keep sailing later in life (when I'm less physically able), in boom 
might be the solution on our next boat.

Bob

On May 23, 2011, at 9:54 AM, wflowe3 at aim.com wrote:

> 
> I have the Selden system with vertical battens. It works great, much better 
than the US Spar dual line system on my last boat (Beneteau).  I've  been using 
in-mast for the past 9 years and I wouldn't get a boat without it. I'm obviously 
not the only one who feels that way because in-mast is now standard on all new 
355s and 375s.  Last Saturday after a very gusty shifty day on the lake, dock 
mates were sitting around enjoying well deserved cocktails and relaxing. Very 
suddenly, the clouds turned black, the temperature dropped and, for we in 
tornado alley who know what's coming, went to work getting sail ties secured and 
sail covers on before the rain and wind really hit.  Those of us with in-mast 
enjoyed watching them scurry around and voiced support as we continued with our 
relaxing and cocktails.
> 
> Yet another advantage of in-mast furling.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 4:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
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> 
> This is of interest as I am about to own an in-mast furler. Just curious if
> these are all Charlston spars or are some of these Seldens? I'm sure it
> doesn't really matter as conceptually the same issues would apply. I was
> very leery of owning a boat with an in-mast furler, but it would have been
> problematic ($$) to change it out. Do any of you have vertical battens?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jon Vez
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Dick Walker
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:51 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Cc: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
> 
> We have had the Charleston.  Spar main  furler  For 11 years and find it to
> be a great assist for the 2 of us sailing however there are some procedures
> that must be followed
> .
> 1 if possible head into the wind
> 2. Do not have the main halyard too tight or too loose
> 3 make sure you have a tight wrap
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> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dick Walker
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA
> 619.435.8986
> 
> On May 22, 2011, at 12:08, Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> FIXED IT!!!  Thanks to all for the suggestions.  The wet weather today may
> be the lubricant that was my saviour.  Lessons learned:  A:  The sail wasn't
> hoisted enough in that the luff bead was loose.  B:  NEVER furl without some
> tension (ensuring a 'tight' furl) applied.  C:  Boom should be raised off
> parallel slightly when furling (I knew this) to ensure proper furling, as
> the sail isn't a perfect triangle.  Whatever our next boat is, it'll have a
> 'flaking' main.  I've no problem with 'externally' furling sails (like our
> jib), but when they furl into a mast or boom, problems can arise (operator
> or other cause) which can be difficult to correct.
>> 
>> Bob
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>> On May 22, 2011, at 1:41 PM, wflowe3 at aim.com wrote:
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>>> 
>>> This has probably happened to everyone who has in-mast furling. I have
> had luck pulling the sail out as far as possible without breaking anything,
> then re-rolling it into the mast with tension on the outhaul then  rapidly
> pulling the outhaul. It may take many cycles but I have always had this work
> and not damage anything. Just keep working it in and out.
>>> 
>>> Bill
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Sat, May 21, 2011 6:19 pm
>>> Subject: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All:
>>> 
>>> We put our sails on today.  The wind kicked up as we were securing the
>>> main outhaul in preparation to furling the main, so we decided to furl
>>> it with my wife on the furling line and me just holding the clew and
>>> 'walking' it in, then attaching the outhaul later.  Unfortunately,
>>> this apparently furled it rather loosely, so that on trying to unfurl,
>>> some of the sailcloth folds on itself and binds in the gate in the
>>> mast to the furler, stopping things.  I don't think it's wrapped on
>>> itself beneath the outer folds.  Tried to winch it out, no good.
>>> Didn't want to force it, fearing breaking the car for the outhaul on
>>> the boom, or something worse.  Going to try tomorrow by attaching a
>>> line to the clew and then directly to one of the jib winches, along
>>> with liberal application of Sailkote along the gate.  If that fails,
>>> I'll have to invoke the yard rigger.  Anyone else ever suffer this
>>> folly or other such jamming?
>>> 
>>> Bob Seastream
>>> Intuition # 906
>>> 
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