[C320-list] Ssssspiders

Tue Apr 17 11:17:04 PDT 2012

Bounce dryer sheets = five stars down here in spider world

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net> wrote:
> Fred,
>
> From my personal experience with the original vent is that I flushed it
> last fall with my last pump out. It is possible that the spiders got in and
> built a nest during the winter but based on the mess I found yesterday,
> a flush won't do it. Accepting the fact that the tank needs something
> bigger and the original vent needs to be changed I would twist off
> the outer fitting and clean it, then using a hooked wire or pipe cleaners,
> run it in and out of the L shaped fitting then flush it, then twist the outer
> fitting back on. You may also what to use some spider control in the
> valve. Afterward you may need a pump out depending on how
> much flushing you do.  This is the procedure I would use if I didn't want
> to change the fitting. It is at least a three hour project. Could be much
> longer depending on how prepared you are in advance, all required tools
> and parts in hand before you start.
>
> New subject: What do we do about spiders, how to control them, how to
> rid your boat of all spiders. I do use a spider spry, but obviously this is
> not enough.
>
> Paul
> Affinity 657
> Bay Bridge Marina
> Chesapeake Bay, Maryland
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Fred LEcuyer <fred.lecuyer at live.com>
> To: Catalina320list Catalina320list <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>
>
> Karl,
>
> The vent on the hull is L-shaped. You just run a hose on it and it's enough?
>
> Fred
> First Light
> Hull #926
>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:52:58 -0400
>> From: kmielen at suddenlink.net
>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>>
>> I run a stream of fresh water through my vent line every time I pump
>> out. Keeps the line clear and the shower of clean water helps keep my
>> level gauge clean.
>> Just be sure to let the water get sucked in in a way that still allows
>> air to be drawn in. You don't want to risk collapsing that tank.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net> wrote:
>> > Today I started taking everything apart to replace the holding
>> > tank vent. What a job and I'm not done yet. What I found when
>> > taking the outside fitting off is a cotton like substance that was
>> > plugging up the vent. I took a small screw driver and raked it
>> > into and back out of the thru hull portion and found the same
>> > substance. It was completely stopped up. Now with some
>> > reasoning and logic, there was no stink when I bought the
>> > boat but over time the stink became worse and worse until
>> > last year it was unbearable.  Since I now have the cabinet out,
>> > and messenger lines tied to all hoses and so fourth, I'll complete
>> > the job and replace the fitting -- I don't want to have to do this
>> > again. Now, for those of you who have not started I would take
>> > the outside fitting off and clean it out, using something like pipe
>> > cleaners back and forth in the thru hull. You could even run
>> > a little water thru it. Put it back together to see if you have any
>> > improvement. If so, keep cleaning it once every 5 years or so.
>> > So far I haven't looked for the thru hull but I think it must have
>> > an L fitting, otherwise the hose will eventually colapse onto itself
>> > and stop the venting process.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> > Affinity 657
>> > Bay Bridge Marina
>> > Chesapeake Bay, Maryland
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >  From: Mike Ott <wmo48 at yahoo.com>
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 2:37 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>> >
>> > Pat,
>> > Thanks. I sewed seizing line to the hoses and will lube the hell out of them
>> > when I put it back together.  I tried the technique before I went to far and it
>> > work, so on to replace the vent.
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Pat Ireland <cherie320 at gmail.com>
>> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>> > Sent: Mon, April 2, 2012 1:58:39 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > There are two approaches.  Use a messenger line tied to each hose to pull
>> > them back into the holes in the cabinet.  Wire worked better for me.  The
>> > other approach is to take the back off the closet and access the hoses from
>> > behind the liner.  I did the messenger route.  It's not a snap, but works.
>> > The closet back sounds like the trick, but I have not tried it yet.  Search
>> > the forum history.  Jeff discussed.  Would never have figured it out
>> > without the help.
>> >
>> > Pat, Cherie, 801
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Mike Ott <wmo48 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Jeff,
>> >> I checked out your photo gallery but I'm having a real bear of time
>> >> getting the
>> >> 'medicine cabinet' out.  I have removed 4 screws holding the cabinet to
>> >> the IGU
>> >> and the 2 anti-siphon valves so now I have a loose cabinet with 4 hose
>> >> sticking
>> >> into it.  The cabinet won't swing out far enough from the top to pull it
>> >> out,
>> >> there is not enough clearance in the IGU cutout.  There is a lot of slop
>> >> in the
>> >> hoses so they can be pushed below the cabinet which would free the cabinet
>> >> but
>> >> how would I thread the hoses back into the cabinet ?  Did you have this
>> >> same
>> >> problem ?
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com>
>> >> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> >> Sent: Sun, April 1, 2012 7:49:46 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>> >>
>> >> Hi Mike,
>> >>
>> >> The holding tank vent from the factory is a 5/8" fuel vent and vents out
>> >> the
>> >> side of the boat.  The hose leading to that is 3/4".  The factory used a
>> >> makeshift technique to adapt the 3/4" hose to the 5/8" fitting. Not only
>> >> is this
>> >> prone to leak fumes, it isn't particularly waterproof.  If you have a boat
>> >> with
>> >> the Black plastic vent, this is designed in a way that can actually vent
>> >> gasses
>> >> back into the boat since no sealant is used on the fitting.  On top of
>> >> that the
>> >> baffles or screens in the vent prevents the tank from breathing.
>> >>
>> >> Last summer I did a fairly simple project to replace the vent hose with a
>> >> quality hose and installed a 3/4" thru hull fitting similar to the bilge
>> >> pump
>> >> outlet thru hull.  The result was instant and dramatic.  Went from having
>> >> holding tank smell in the head and aft cabin closet whenever the head was
>> >> flushed to zero smell inside or outside the boat.
>> >>
>> >> This is (in my opinion) a must-do project.  Even though we flush with fresh
>> >> water, there was always a smell in the aft cabin closet.  That is
>> >> completely in
>> >> the past now.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> There are pictures in my c320 website photo gallery of this project.  It
>> >> took me
>> >> a few hours one evening after work to do.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Hare
>> >> #809 Woodbine II
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Jane & Ken <obuoy4848 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Mike,
>> >> > On hull #219 (OBUOY) the tank vent is the one under the rub rail and no
>> >> >stantion vent is present.  The "old" catalina boats did use the stantion
>> >> as a
>> >> >vent--bad stuff on deck when over full.  Ken
>> >> >
>> >> > --- On Fri, 3/30/12, Mike Ott <wmo48 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > From: Mike Ott <wmo48 at yahoo.com>
>> >> > Subject: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>> >> > To: c320-list at catalina320.com
>> >> > Date: Friday, March 30, 2012, 12:53 PM
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > According to my owners manual ('98), it shows the holding tank vent
>> >> exiting
>> >> >into
>> >> >
>> >> > a deck stanchion.  The stanchion has a small hole (1/8" +/-) through
>> >> which the
>> >>
>> >> > tank vents.  I also have, what appears to be, an overflow vent located
>> >> in the
>> >> > hull just below the holding tank pump out deck-fitting.  Is this also
>> >> acting a
>> >>
>> >> > vent for the holding tank ?  The reason for my question is the Feb '12
>> >> article
>> >>
>> >> > in Practical Sailor that says holding tanks should have at least a
>> >> minimum 3/4"
>> >> >
>> >> > vent to have an effective bacterial reaction.  Now maybe in '98 this
>> >> > installation was acceptable but now ?  If my vent is only the 1/8" hole
>> >> in a
>> >> > stanchion, maybe I should go back to using bucket.  Knowing our group,
>> >> I'm sure
>> >> >
>> >> > someone out there can give me the poop on this fragrant issue (I know,
>> >> pretty
>> >> > bad puns).
>> >> > Mike Ott
>> >> > 'Amanda Lu'
>> >> > #508
>> >>
>> >>


-- 
Chris Burti
Farmville, NC