[C320-list] Ssssspiders

Wed Apr 18 05:26:56 PDT 2012

Stuff them behind the zippers attthe opinings at the ends. Stuff them
under the sail cover and at the bottom of the last wrap  of the Genoa.
stick them in the lockers behind the seat cushions in the cabin.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:03 PM,  <jbrown03 at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Do you rub them on the surfaces where they hide?  Do you stuff them into the
> gaps where the canvas is zipped to the frame?  So other approach?
>
> Sorry for a dumb question.  Thanks
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Burti
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:17 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Ssssspiders
>
> Bounce dryer sheets = five stars down here in spider world
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> Fred,
>>
>> From my personal experience with the original vent is that I flushed it
>> last fall with my last pump out. It is possible that the spiders got in
>> and
>> built a nest during the winter but based on the mess I found yesterday,
>> a flush won't do it. Accepting the fact that the tank needs something
>> bigger and the original vent needs to be changed I would twist off
>> the outer fitting and clean it, then using a hooked wire or pipe cleaners,
>> run it in and out of the L shaped fitting then flush it, then twist the
>> outer
>> fitting back on. You may also what to use some spider control in the
>> valve. Afterward you may need a pump out depending on how
>> much flushing you do.  This is the procedure I would use if I didn't want
>> to change the fitting. It is at least a three hour project. Could be much
>> longer depending on how prepared you are in advance, all required tools
>> and parts in hand before you start.
>>
>> New subject: What do we do about spiders, how to control them, how to
>> rid your boat of all spiders. I do use a spider spry, but obviously this
>> is
>> not enough.
>>
>> Paul
>> Affinity 657
>> Bay Bridge Marina
>> Chesapeake Bay, Maryland
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>  From: Fred LEcuyer <fred.lecuyer at live.com>
>> To: Catalina320list Catalina320list <c320-list at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>>
>>
>> Karl,
>>
>> The vent on the hull is L-shaped. You just run a hose on it and it's
>> enough?
>>
>> Fred
>> First Light
>> Hull #926
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:52:58 -0400
>>> From: kmielen at suddenlink.net
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>>>
>>> I run a stream of fresh water through my vent line every time I pump
>>> out. Keeps the line clear and the shower of clean water helps keep my
>>> level gauge clean.
>>> Just be sure to let the water get sucked in in a way that still allows
>>> air to be drawn in. You don't want to risk collapsing that tank.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Today I started taking everything apart to replace the holding
>>> > tank vent. What a job and I'm not done yet. What I found when
>>> > taking the outside fitting off is a cotton like substance that was
>>> > plugging up the vent. I took a small screw driver and raked it
>>> > into and back out of the thru hull portion and found the same
>>> > substance. It was completely stopped up. Now with some
>>> > reasoning and logic, there was no stink when I bought the
>>> > boat but over time the stink became worse and worse until
>>> > last year it was unbearable.  Since I now have the cabinet out,
>>> > and messenger lines tied to all hoses and so fourth, I'll complete
>>> > the job and replace the fitting -- I don't want to have to do this
>>> > again. Now, for those of you who have not started I would take
>>> > the outside fitting off and clean it out, using something like pipe
>>> > cleaners back and forth in the thru hull. You could even run
>>> > a little water thru it. Put it back together to see if you have any
>>> > improvement. If so, keep cleaning it once every 5 years or so.
>>> > So far I haven't looked for the thru hull but I think it must have
>>> > an L fitting, otherwise the hose will eventually colapse onto itself
>>> > and stop the venting process.
>>> >
>>> > Paul
>>> > Affinity 657
>>> > Bay Bridge Marina
>>> > Chesapeake Bay, Maryland
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> >  From: Mike Ott <wmo48 at yahoo.com>
>>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 2:37 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>>> >
>>> > Pat,
>>> > Thanks. I sewed seizing line to the hoses and will lube the hell out of
>>> > > them
>>> > when I put it back together.  I tried the technique before I went to >
>>> > far and it
>>> > work, so on to replace the vent.
>>> > Mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > From: Pat Ireland <cherie320 at gmail.com>
>>> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> > Sent: Mon, April 2, 2012 1:58:39 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> >
>>> > There are two approaches.  Use a messenger line tied to each hose to >
>>> > pull
>>> > them back into the holes in the cabinet.  Wire worked better for me. >
>>> > The
>>> > other approach is to take the back off the closet and access the hoses
>>> > > from
>>> > behind the liner.  I did the messenger route.  It's not a snap, but >
>>> > works.
>>> > The closet back sounds like the trick, but I have not tried it yet. >
>>> > Search
>>> > the forum history.  Jeff discussed.  Would never have figured it out
>>> > without the help.
>>> >
>>> > Pat, Cherie, 801
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Mike Ott <wmo48 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Jeff,
>>> >> I checked out your photo gallery but I'm having a real bear of time
>>> >> getting the
>>> >> 'medicine cabinet' out.  I have removed 4 screws holding the cabinet
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> the IGU
>>> >> and the 2 anti-siphon valves so now I have a loose cabinet with 4 hose
>>> >> sticking
>>> >> into it.  The cabinet won't swing out far enough from the top to pull
>>> >> >> it
>>> >> out,
>>> >> there is not enough clearance in the IGU cutout.  There is a lot of >>
>>> >> slop
>>> >> in the
>>> >> hoses so they can be pushed below the cabinet which would free the >>
>>> >> cabinet
>>> >> but
>>> >> how would I thread the hoses back into the cabinet ?  Did you have >>
>>> >> this
>>> >> same
>>> >> problem ?
>>> >> Mike
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ________________________________
>>> >> From: Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com>
>>> >> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> >> Sent: Sun, April 1, 2012 7:49:46 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Mike,
>>> >>
>>> >> The holding tank vent from the factory is a 5/8" fuel vent and vents
>>> >> >> out
>>> >> the
>>> >> side of the boat.  The hose leading to that is 3/4".  The factory used
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> makeshift technique to adapt the 3/4" hose to the 5/8" fitting. Not >>
>>> >> only
>>> >> is this
>>> >> prone to leak fumes, it isn't particularly waterproof.  If you have a
>>> >> >> boat
>>> >> with
>>> >> the Black plastic vent, this is designed in a way that can actually >>
>>> >> vent
>>> >> gasses
>>> >> back into the boat since no sealant is used on the fitting.  On top of
>>> >> that the
>>> >> baffles or screens in the vent prevents the tank from breathing.
>>> >>
>>> >> Last summer I did a fairly simple project to replace the vent hose >>
>>> >> with a
>>> >> quality hose and installed a 3/4" thru hull fitting similar to the >>
>>> >> bilge
>>> >> pump
>>> >> outlet thru hull.  The result was instant and dramatic.  Went from >>
>>> >> having
>>> >> holding tank smell in the head and aft cabin closet whenever the head
>>> >> >> was
>>> >> flushed to zero smell inside or outside the boat.
>>> >>
>>> >> This is (in my opinion) a must-do project.  Even though we flush with
>>> >> >> fresh
>>> >> water, there was always a smell in the aft cabin closet.  That is
>>> >> completely in
>>> >> the past now.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> There are pictures in my c320 website photo gallery of this project.
>>> >> >> It
>>> >> took me
>>> >> a few hours one evening after work to do.
>>> >>
>>> >> Jeff Hare
>>> >> #809 Woodbine II
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Jane & Ken <obuoy4848 at sbcglobal.net> >>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Mike,
>>> >> > On hull #219 (OBUOY) the tank vent is the one under the rub rail and
>>> >> > >> > no
>>> >> >stantion vent is present.  The "old" catalina boats did use the >>
>>> >> > >stantion
>>> >> as a
>>> >> >vent--bad stuff on deck when over full.  Ken
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --- On Fri, 3/30/12, Mike Ott <wmo48 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > From: Mike Ott <wmo48 at yahoo.com>
>>> >> > Subject: [C320-list] Holding Tank Vent
>>> >> > To: c320-list at catalina320.com
>>> >> > Date: Friday, March 30, 2012, 12:53 PM
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > According to my owners manual ('98), it shows the holding tank vent
>>> >> exiting
>>> >> >into
>>> >> >
>>> >> > a deck stanchion.  The stanchion has a small hole (1/8" +/-) through
>>> >> which the
>>> >>
>>> >> > tank vents.  I also have, what appears to be, an overflow vent >> >
>>> >> > located
>>> >> in the
>>> >> > hull just below the holding tank pump out deck-fitting.  Is this >>
>>> >> > > also
>>> >> acting a
>>> >>
>>> >> > vent for the holding tank ?  The reason for my question is the Feb
>>> >> > >> > '12
>>> >> article
>>> >>
>>> >> > in Practical Sailor that says holding tanks should have at least a
>>> >> minimum 3/4"
>>> >> >
>>> >> > vent to have an effective bacterial reaction.  Now maybe in '98 this
>>> >> > installation was acceptable but now ?  If my vent is only the 1/8"
>>> >> > >> > hole
>>> >> in a
>>> >> > stanchion, maybe I should go back to using bucket.  Knowing our >> >
>>> >> > group,
>>> >> I'm sure
>>> >> >
>>> >> > someone out there can give me the poop on this fragrant issue (I >>
>>> >> > > know,
>>> >> pretty
>>> >> > bad puns).
>>> >> > Mike Ott
>>> >> > 'Amanda Lu'
>>> >> > #508
>>> >>
>>> >>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Chris Burti
> Farmville, NC

-- 
Chris Burti
Farmville, NC