[C320-list] Topping Lift

[Rick Sulewski]

David,
I have my vang line is loose as I take advantage of the  cam cleat on the
vang and can shake loose the line to reset the vang rather than relying on a
clutch. If you have an open turning block on port side the vang line could
move there or add another turning block. We have only one boom sheet on our
320 and I believe you have two, and that may be taking up the extra turning
block on the port side.
Rick

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of dprudden
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 9:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Topping Lift

Rick,
Thanks for your reply.
I currently have the vang, reefing line, main halyard then starboard main
sheet going through the turning blocks under the main traveler. Any
suggestions on what I can move or eliminate to run the topping lift to the
cockpit? I would definitely prefer being able to slack the topping lift
after raising the main but I don't have an open turning block or clutch
available to do so. 

Thanks for any suggestions!

David Prudden
#787

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On Dec 21, 2012, at 8:14 AM, "Rick Sulewski" <rsulewski at bex.net> wrote:

> David,
> Moving the topping lift line to a single line starboard side clutch 
> located near the mainsail halyard clutch set using an open outer most 
> turning block made the Dutchman system so much more efficient and user 
> friendly, especially when setting and releasing the mainsail in higher 
> winds. Had compromised for a while by setting the topping lift to a 
> neutral length to avoid the trips to/from the mast but experienced  
> the topping lift/Dutchman block line hanging up on the backstay split 
> when we least wanted to step out to adjust the mast cleat.
> Rick
> My-Ria 1995 hull #277
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of dprudden
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 3:18 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Replacement Sails Dutchman A system
> 
> My topping lift is cleated at the mast. Do you all have it led aft, 
> into a clutch? I have a 2 line Dutchman that I loosen by slacking the 
> topping lift after raising the main but I have to run forward to the 
> mast to do so ( and of course I have to run forward to tighten it 
> before dropping). I have no open turning blocks or clutches on the
starboard side of the cabin.
> 
> David Prudden
> #787
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Scott, I'm not familiar with the various Dutchman configs, just ours 
>> which I'll attempt to describe: it is a two block system, there is a 
>> continuous line on which the two Dutchman blocks are attached and the 
>> free part of the line runs freely through each Dutchman block. At the 
>> upper end is a small single turning sheave with a rotating eye.  At 
>> the lower end is a fiddle block with cam cleat.  The topping lift is 
>> attached to the small sheave at top and kept taught when not sailing.
>> The rotating eye allows the topping lift to twist as it needs without 
>> transferring the twist down the rest of the lift.  The fiddle and cam 
>> at bottom allows the tension on the monofilament lines to be eased 
>> when not striking the main even while the topping lift is taught.
>> 
>> After the sail is up and drawing, I slacken the topping lift.  Before 
>> striking the main, I tighten the topping lift, adjust the Dutchman at 
>> the fiddle block to tighten the monofilament, then drop it.  Once 
>> down and flaked, I use the fiddle/cam to relieve the tension on the 
>> monofilament.  It all works fine as long as the monofilament lines 
>> are properly tensioned and I'm not too far off the wind when I drop 
>> the main.  Oh, and I try to be a few degrees to port of the wind so 
>> the sail slides don't hang up on the gate screws.
>> 
>> So much to remember.  So few brain cells left with which to work.
>> 
>> Warren & Pattie Updike
>> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Thompson [mailto:surprise at thompson87.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:19 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Replacement Sails Dutchman A system
>> 
>> My boat also came with the Garhauer solid vang and the Dutchman C 
>> system
>> ("clothesline") with two mono-filament lines. One of the first 
>> changes I made to the boat was replacing the springs in the vang with 
>> weaker ones (from Garhauer) so that it wasn't so difficult to pull 
>> the boom down to where it should be in light air. But that means that 
>> my vang is not quite as rigid as yours.
>> 
>> Regarding the Dutchman, I now have the A system with 3 monofilament 
>> lines
>