[C320-list] AC Install Advice
jim brown
jbrown5093 at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 30 14:11:10 PDT 2012
Might want to check out the Webasco FCF (feel cool fast) units (go up to 16000). Easy installation and work quite well. Mine is mounted on a small shelf in the port locker with a plenum over the bread box and one in the aft cabin. The return is a plenum in the aft bulkhead over the starboard little shelf. The aft lazarette space acts as the return duct so no ducting needed back to the AC unit.
Jim Brown
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From: Rick Sulewski <rsulewski at bex.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
Bryan,
I am going to spend some time prepping the boat for the next trip and I
will take some photos. I need to clean out my port locker, check the AC
intake water strainer, check the engine intake water strainer and snug the
packing nut so your request will serve to ensure I get those tasks done
before the trip. Just send me your email address so I may send multiple
messages to reduce upload/download time for each set of attachments.
Are you hauling-out for the installation of AC water inlet (seacock)?
Rick
rsulewski at bex.net
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Morton
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:42 PM
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
Rick, Ben, Tony, Paul
Thanks for the responses on the AC installation. I think I am going to go
with the installation in the port locker in front of the helm. I start
cutting holes on Saturday!
Rick, would you have any photos of you installation? Once I am done I
will try to post something.
Also Ben and Tony it looks like between the three of us we have hulls #30,
#32 and #35. We have had our 320 for five years now and I can report no
major issues during that time.
Thanks again
Bryan #32
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> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:18:45 -0400
> From: "Rick Sulewski" <rsulewski at bex.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
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> The port locker ( in front of the helm) is the simplest and most
> direct plan for installing the AC/Heat unit. The electrical panel is
> on the portside and running water intake (under the aft berth) and
> discharge line (portside hull about 12 inches above the waterline) are
> easy to access. The loss of storage space is a trade-off and the
> lowest level storage items were often items we could have left in the
> dock box or garage. We crafted a shelf above the AC unit and that
> facilitated continued use of the port locker for storage. The unit was
> installed just aft of the bread box but aligned so the air inlet was
> at our aft berth feet area and the AC discharge was above the bread
> box.
> The velocity of the air flow is very strong when the fan is on higher
> settings and our unit has a variable speed discharge program that
> slows down the velocity as the temperature nears the target setting.
>
> The issue with the unit being installed above the fuel tank in the
> starboard aft corner locker is the AC unit will be aligned to your
> pillow area and the noise has been reported to be louder there than
> when located in the port storage locker. Also, the ducting design
> presents more work.
>
> Rick
> My-Ria #277
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
> Morton
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 2:12 PM
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
>
> I know this topic has been brought up before but does anyone have
> advice on the best way to install AC on the 320. We are going to
> install a 16000 BTU unit next week. I have read several posts saying
> that the best place to install the unit is in the "aft port locker"
> but I am unclear if this means in the Lazarette (in front of the
> wheel) or the space under the aft port seat (behind the wheel) where
> the Adler Barbour fridge compressor is installed. It would seem to me
> that an installation in the Lazarette would make for a shorter and
> more direct routing of a cooling duct to a salon vent near the bread
> box but the plumbing would be more difficult. Space in the Lazarette
> would also be sacrificed. Installation under the aft port seat would
> be easier from an air return and plumbing point of view but would mean
> a longer and less direct cooling duct run to the salon. This in
> theory would mean a reduction in air velocity at the vent discharging
> into the salon. Maybe I am over thinking this. I also read that the
> factory installation is above the Diesel tank in the aft starboard
> locker (like in the upgrade ac article posted by Jeff Hare on the C320
> Association web site). This seems more difficult than the other two
> options. If anyone has some photos of their installation they would
> be greatly appreciated as I am struggling to visualize how this going
> to go.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bryan
>
> Slainte Mhath (Hull 32)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:43:29 -0400 (EDT)
> From: amshd2 at aol.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
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>
> Ben
>
> My AC unit (16000 BTU) is mounted in the V Berth and it fits fine. The
> 16000 btu unit does fine here on the Chesapeake in the summer. I have 3
> vents 1 in the V berth 4x8 rectangle, 1 4in round on port side under the
> table and 1 4 in round in the aft cabin. Problem I have is that the
large
> 4x8 puts out a lot of air and you freeze in the v berth at night and
> it takes a long time to cool aft cabin.
>
> If I did it over again I would keep main unit in V Berth but
> reconfigure vents. I did not put the unit in the port locker because
> my boat already had the famous 320 port list and I did not want to
> make it worse.
>
> Our boats are really close close in age I have hull #30 .
>
> Tony
> #30
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Cares <bcares at caresphotoarts.com>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 2:35 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
>
>
> Bryan:
> 'm considering all the options you mention plus one other . . . under
> the Berth aft of the water tank (have to sacrifice those two little
> drawers hich we never use anyway). Runs are still long but not as long
> as tarboard locker location. And you can hit head and aft cabin once
> you get hrough main salon. Just a thought.
> en
> 35
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Bryan Morton <bryanmorton at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I know this topic has been brought up before but does anyone have
> > advice
> on
> the best way to install AC on the 320. We are going to install a
> 16000 BTU unit next week. I have read several posts saying that the
> best place to install the unit is in the ?aft port locker? but I am
> unclear if this means in the Lazarette (in front of the wheel) or the
> space under the aft port seat (behind the wheel) where the Adler
> Barbour fridge compressor is installed. It would seem to me that an
> installation in the Lazarette would make for a shorter and more
> direct routing of a cooling duct to a salon vent near the bread box
> but the plumbing would be more difficult. Space in the Lazarette
> would also be sacrificed. Installation under the aft port seat would
> be easier from an air return and plumbing point of view but would
> mean a longer and less direct cooling duct run to the salon. This in
> theory would mean a reduction in air velocity at the vent discharging
> into the salon. Maybe I am over thinking this. I also read that the
> factory installation is above the Diesel tank in the aft starboard
> locker (like in the upgrade ac article posted by Jeff Hare on the
> C320 Association web site). This seems more difficult than the other
> two options. If anyone has some photos of their installation they
> would be greatly appreciated as I am struggling to visualize how this
going to go.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bryan
>
> Slainte Mhath (Hull 32)
>
>
> --
> hotoGraphic Arts
> 02 Clinton Court
> eadville, PA 16335
> 814.333.2990
> 14.720.5260 Cell
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:53:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
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> Ok, I'll chime in.
> ?
> My 16000 BTU is installed in the aft Starboard locker with one 8 K
> condenser in the v-birth Port locker and one 8 K condenser in the aft
> cabin Starboard locker along with the compressor.
> Four inch outputs in the aft, head and v-birth and one 8 inch in the
> saloon. Return air is with the condensers and they are about 10 inch.?
> These were already installed when I bought the boat used in 2004.
> Cools/heats right nicely.
> ?
> Paul
> Affinity 657
> Bay Bridge Marina
> Chesapeake Bay, Maryland
> ?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "amshd2 at aol.com" <amshd2 at aol.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
>
>
> Ben
>
> My AC unit (16000 BTU)? is mounted in the V Berth and it fits fine.
> The
> 16000 btu unit does fine here on the Chesapeake in the summer.? ? I
> have 3 vents 1 in the V berth? 4x8 rectangle, 1 4in round on port side
> under the table and 1 4 in round in the aft cabin.? Problem I have is
> that the large
> 4x8 puts out a lot of air and you freeze in the v berth at night and
> it takes a long time to cool aft cabin.?
>
> If I did it over again I would keep main unit in V Berth but
> reconfigure vents. I did not put the unit in the port locker because
> my boat already had the famous 320 port list and I did not want to
> make it worse.
>
> Our boats are really close close in age I have hull #30 .
>
> ? Tony
> #30
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Cares <bcares at caresphotoarts.com>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 2:35 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
>
>
> Bryan:
> 'm considering all the options you mention plus one other . . . under
> the Berth aft of the water tank (have to sacrifice those two little
> drawers hich we never use anyway). Runs are still long but not as long
> as tarboard locker location. And you can hit head and aft cabin once
> you get hrough main salon. Just a thought.
> en
> 35
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Bryan Morton <bryanmorton at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I know this topic has been brought up before but does anyone have
> > advice
> on
> the best way to install AC on the 320.? We are going to install a
> 16000 BTU unit next week. I have read several posts saying that the
> best place to install the unit is in the ?aft port locker? but I am
> unclear if this means in the Lazarette (in front of the wheel) or the
> space under the aft port seat (behind the wheel) where the Adler
> Barbour fridge compressor is installed.? It would seem to me that an
> installation in the Lazarette would make for a shorter and more direct
> routing of a cooling duct to a salon vent near the bread box but the
> plumbing would be more difficult.? Space in the Lazarette would also
> be sacrificed.? Installation under the aft port seat would be easier
> from an air return and plumbing point of view but would mean a longer
> and less direct cooling duct run to the salon.? This in theory would
> mean a reduction in air velocity at the vent discharging into the
> salon.? Maybe I am over thinking this.? I also read that the factory
> installation is above the Diesel tank in the aft starboard locker
> (like in the upgrade ac article posted by Jeff Hare on the C320
> Association web site).? This seems more difficult than the other two
> options.? If anyone has some photos of their installation they would be
greatly appreciated as I am struggling to visualize how this going to go.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bryan
>
> Slainte Mhath (Hull 32)
>
>
> --
> hotoGraphic Arts
> 02 Clinton Court
> eadville, PA? 16335
> 814.333.2990
> 14.720.5260 Cell
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:17:02 -0700
> From: Cary Dennis Lowe <cdlowe1769 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Micron 66 Bottom Paint
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> Yes but they are cheep!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Pat Ireland <cherie320 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dennis - you left out one small detail. Did you have to by the
> > drinks after? Pat, 801
>
>
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